Here comes the Dual-Layer DVD Burners
03-19-04, 08:08 PM
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Re: Here comes the Dual-Layer DVD Burners
Originally posted by DVD Josh
I think that studios may pull a Norway on us and demand that blank media be taxed at a high rate with royalties going to them.
I think that studios may pull a Norway on us and demand that blank media be taxed at a high rate with royalties going to them.
03-19-04, 11:38 PM
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I back up all my DVDs to DVD-R, and I have Sony DVD jukeboxes that FLIP discs, so I record onto double-sided DVD-Rs. This way Instead of 300 titles, my jukeboxes can play 600 titles each. There's alot of compression software out there that allows you to strip all the extras, and extra dialog tracks off the original DVD so that even a DVD 9 can fit perfectly onto a DVD-R without loss of quality. Since I am very happy with this arrangement, unless they eventually release dual layered DVD+Rs that are dual sided, I don't think I'll be upgrading to a Dual layered DVD recorder.
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03-20-04, 10:17 AM
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I've been told by someone that depending on the current single layer DVD burner you buy today, you might be able to upgrade the firmware one day so that it can become a dual-layer burner. I'm not sure if this is true or not.
03-20-04, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by DVD Josh
I think we are just talking about two different things.
To put it bluntly - I buy alot of used DVDs on half and eBay. I'm pretty careful, and most of the time it's pretty obvious what's what. But I'm concerned that with dual layer burners and color lasers and glossy photo paper is that you could produce a DVD for $4 that is essentially the same exact thing as an original. I'm just saying that it's going to get a whole lot tougher to discern real from fake.
I think we are just talking about two different things.
To put it bluntly - I buy alot of used DVDs on half and eBay. I'm pretty careful, and most of the time it's pretty obvious what's what. But I'm concerned that with dual layer burners and color lasers and glossy photo paper is that you could produce a DVD for $4 that is essentially the same exact thing as an original. I'm just saying that it's going to get a whole lot tougher to discern real from fake.
Where's the problem?
03-20-04, 12:45 PM
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I gotta agree with Josh on this one. Have you ever noticed the homemade DVD covers people make for bootlegs . . . ahem, excuse me, I mean "backups"? In many cases, not only are they indiscernable from studio produced inserts, most oftimes they are even BETTER.
Cocopugg,
I backup a lot of DVDs as well, but even if you strip every extra from your disc, which I prefer NOT to do if I don't have to, because I like extras, most movies themselves are still too large for a DVD-5, and some compression is going to have to take place anyway.
Cocopugg,
I backup a lot of DVDs as well, but even if you strip every extra from your disc, which I prefer NOT to do if I don't have to, because I like extras, most movies themselves are still too large for a DVD-5, and some compression is going to have to take place anyway.
03-21-04, 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Admiral7
I gotta agree with Josh on this one. Have you ever noticed the homemade DVD covers people make for bootlegs . . . ahem, excuse me, I mean "backups"? In many cases, not only are they indiscernable from studio produced inserts, most oftimes they are even BETTER.
Cocopugg,
I backup a lot of DVDs as well, but even if you strip every extra from your disc, which I prefer NOT to do if I don't have to, because I like extras, most movies themselves are still too large for a DVD-5, and some compression is going to have to take place anyway.
I gotta agree with Josh on this one. Have you ever noticed the homemade DVD covers people make for bootlegs . . . ahem, excuse me, I mean "backups"? In many cases, not only are they indiscernable from studio produced inserts, most oftimes they are even BETTER.
Cocopugg,
I backup a lot of DVDs as well, but even if you strip every extra from your disc, which I prefer NOT to do if I don't have to, because I like extras, most movies themselves are still too large for a DVD-5, and some compression is going to have to take place anyway.
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03-21-04, 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Cocopugg
True, but since I'm more interested in TV shows, they don't have to be compressed, I just put 4 or 5 to a side instead of the 7 or 8 that come on the disc. Also, with the new compression software that's out there, like DVD Shrink, the movies I have compressed look so good you would be very hard pressed to tell it was compressed. Compression of up to 85% of original quality still looks pretty unnoticeable, even to my eyes.
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True, but since I'm more interested in TV shows, they don't have to be compressed, I just put 4 or 5 to a side instead of the 7 or 8 that come on the disc. Also, with the new compression software that's out there, like DVD Shrink, the movies I have compressed look so good you would be very hard pressed to tell it was compressed. Compression of up to 85% of original quality still looks pretty unnoticeable, even to my eyes.
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03-21-04, 12:32 PM
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YES! I *knew* this would make it to the market this year! Now, how long will it take for DVD Studio Pro to make the update?!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
03-21-04, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Axorr
YES! I *knew* this would make it to the market this year! Now, how long will it take for DVD Studio Pro to make the update?!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
YES! I *knew* this would make it to the market this year! Now, how long will it take for DVD Studio Pro to make the update?!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
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03-21-04, 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Axorr
YES! I *knew* this would make it to the market this year! Now, how long will it take for DVD Studio Pro to make the update?!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
YES! I *knew* this would make it to the market this year! Now, how long will it take for DVD Studio Pro to make the update?!
I gots BOXES of MSTs waiting for archival off of VHS!
I won't be getting this drive as I want to wait for Pioneers combo drive (I prefer -R over +R...). I've just had more luck with compatablility.
GREAT news!
03-21-04, 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Tarantino
Hey, if you get duped on ebay or something, but it's the exact same DVD-9 disc, who cares? You're getting the same movie with perfect quality and all the extras.
Where's the problem?
Hey, if you get duped on ebay or something, but it's the exact same DVD-9 disc, who cares? You're getting the same movie with perfect quality and all the extras.
Where's the problem?
03-22-04, 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by masetodd
If the studios were smart, they'd make DVD's CHEAPER, not more expensive to thwart bootlegging. If real DVDs were only a couple of bucks more than phonys, most people would buy real.
If the studios were smart, they'd make DVD's CHEAPER, not more expensive to thwart bootlegging. If real DVDs were only a couple of bucks more than phonys, most people would buy real.
