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Old 04-27-05, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Valeyard
Fingers crossed that these are the original television episodes and not the truncated "movie" versions. The editing on some of those were horrendous (bad Voiceovers too).

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Well, I'm all for the non-truncated versions, if they truely are, but if you look at the official air date order, the episodes (ie. the chronology) are all over the place.

Episode to feature break down info taken from:
http://www.innermind.com/youngindy/info/yijepg2.htm
Episode order taken from TVtome.

Season 1
1. (04-Mar-1992) My First Adventure (1), The Curse of the Jackal, Egypt 1908
2. (04-Mar-1992) Spring Break Adventure (2), The Curse of the Jackal, Mexico, March 1916
3. (11-Mar-1992) Love's Sweet Song (2), London, May 1916
4. (18-Mar-1992) Passion of Life (1), British East Africa, September 1909
5. (25-Mar-1992) Demons of Deception (1), Verdun, September 1916
6. (01-Apr-1992) Oganga, The Giver and Taker of Life (1), German East Africa, December 1916
7. (08-Apr-1992) Oganga, The Giver and Taker of Life (2), Congo, January 1917

Season 2
8. (21-Sep-1992) Adventures in the Secret Service (1), Austria, March 1917
9. (28-Sep-1992) Trenches of Hell (1), Somme, Early August 1916
10. (05-Oct-1992) Trenches of Hell (2), Germany, Mid-August 1916
11. (12-Oct-1992) Espionage Escapades (1), Barcelona, May 1917
12. (13-Mar-1993) The Mystery of the Blues (1), Chicago, April 1920
13. (13-Mar-1993) The Mystery of the Blues (2), Chicago, May 1920
14. (20-Mar-1993) Spring Break Adventure (1), Princeton, February 1916
15. (27-Mar-1993) Adventures in the Secret Service (2), Petrograd, July 1917
16. (03-Apr-1993) The Scandal of 1920 (1), New York, June 1920
17. (03-Apr-1993) The Scandal of 1920 (2) New York, July 1920
18. (10-Apr-1993) Perils of Cupid (1), Vienna, November 1908
19. (17-Apr-1993) Tales of Innocence (1), Northern Italy, June 1918
20. (05-Jun-1993) The Phantom Train of Doom (1), German East Africa, November 1916
21. (05-Jun-1993) The Phantom Train of Doom (2), German East Africa, November 1916
22. (12-Jun-1993) Love's Sweet Song (1), Ireland, April 1916
23. (19-Jun-1993) Passion for Life (2), Paris, September 1908
24. (26-Jun-1993) Journey of Radiance (2), Peking, March 1910
25. (03-Jul-1993) Journey of Radiance (1), Benares, January 1910
26. (10-Jul-1993) Demons of Deception (2), Paris, October 1916
27. (17-Jul-1993) Masks of Evil (2), Istanbul, September 1918
28. (24-Jul-1993) Winds of Change (1), Paris, May 1919
29. (UNAIRED) Espionage Escapades ((2), Prague, August 1917
30. (UNAIRED) Perils of Cupid (2), Florence, May 1908
31. (UNAIRED) Daredevils of the Desert (1), Palestine, October 1917
32. (UNAIRED) Masks of Evil (1), Transylvania, January 1918

Season 3
33. (15-Oct-1994) The Hollywood Follies (1), Hollywood, August 1920
34. (15-Oct-1994) The Hollywood Follies (2), Hollywood, August 1920
35. (15-Jan-1995) Treasure of the Peacock's Eye (1), London/Egypt, November 1919
36. (15-Jan-1995) Treasure of the Peacock's Eye (2), South Pacific, November 1919 (2)
37. (08-Oct-1995) Attack of the Hawkmen (1), Ravenelle, Germany, 1917
38. (08-Oct-1995) Attack of the Hawkmen (2), Ahlgorn, Germany 1917
39. (16-Jun-1996) Travels with Father (1), Russia 1910
40. (16-Jun-1996) Travels with Father (2), Athens 1910
41. (UNAIRED) My First Adventure (2), Tangiers 1908
42. (UNAIRED) Tales of Innocence (2), Morocco 1917
43. (UNAIRED) Daredevils of the Desert (2), Palestine, October 1917
44. (UNAIRED) Winds of Change (2), Princeton 1919

So you can see, the original airing order was a mess. Plus you had 8 unaired episodes that were parts of already aired ones.

The only way that Paramount can do this justice is release them in their feature length versions in chronological order as they did with the VHS releases several years ago.

In fact, I recall that before each feature, George Lucas himself had a video intro describing each show and that he considers the editted together versions the official way to present them.
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I'm pretty ok with edited together versions, as long as the intros and epilogs are available somewhere on the set, perhaps as a special feature. I am especially interested in the Harrison cameo.
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I'm pretty ok with edited together versions, as long as the intros and epilogs are available somewhere on the set, perhaps as a special feature. I am especially interested in the Harrison cameo.
That cameo was part of it's own movie so you wouldn't have to worry about it.
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hmmm... how come people say Lucas is a money grubbing jerk when he wants to release a Star Wars film, yet when he wants to release Young Indy on DVD, he's ok?
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I will buy them all....but have a feeling we will have to wait for an Indy 4 tie in.
Yep!
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Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
hmmm... how come people say Lucas is a money grubbing jerk when he wants to release a Star Wars film, yet when he wants to release Young Indy on DVD, he's ok?
Wait until these are officially announced and people find out it will be the new, re-edited, 2-hour "movies" in chronological order. With awkward transitions and the "old Indy" footage removed.

Then the jokes and bitching will start.
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Wait until these are officially announced and people find out it will be the new, re-edited, 2-hour "movies" in chronological order. With awkward transitions and the "old Indy" footage removed.

Then the jokes and bitching will start.
All joking aside, I had all 12 released VHS titles and to be honest, I couldn't tell that there was any awkward transitions between the two editted together episodes. Oh, there were a few that you could tell that the two parts weren't always directly related, but so what... For example the two parts to "Trenches of Hell" the first part dealt with the Battle of the Somme, the second, when Indy and Charles de Gaulle were taken prisoner.

The old Indy footage couldn't possibly be removed as that was a part of the "2-hour edit".
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Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
The old Indy footage couldn't possibly be removed as that was a part of the "2-hour edit".
I'm not talking about the Harrison Ford footage -- obviously they'd never remove that. I'm talking about the OLD Indy (80+ years old) scenes.

In the TV series, a lot of the episodes had old Indy introducing the stories... like everything was him thinking back on his life. These scenes (and others, I believe) disappeared when it hit VHS in the "2-hour movie" re-edit.

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Originally Posted by bboisvert
I'm not talking about the Harrison Ford footage -- obviously they'd never remove that. I'm talking about the OLD Indy (80+ years old) scenes.

In the TV series, a lot of the episodes had old Indy introducing the stories... like everything was him thinking back on his life. These scenes (and others, I believe) disappeared when it hit VHS in the "2-hour movie" re-edit.

EDITED TO ADD:
Oh OK. I wasn't aware of that. I haven't watched my VHS in over 5 years, so I can't recall if there were any instances that that footage was left in. But it seems like it was there for a few episodes. Or maybe I'm confusing the VHS versions to a couple of times when I saw them aired on TV.
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So excited for this release. Some episodes were good, some were below average, but all of them felt like Indy to me!
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I think removing Old Indy is a good thing. I always thought those bookends were pretty depressing. I mean, people don't want to see Indy as a fragile old man. I saw the original episodes, so I don't know how the transitions are, but if they're awkward I hope Lucas revisits them for the DVD release.
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Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
Well, I'm all for the non-truncated versions, if they truely are, but if you look at the official air date order, the episodes (ie. the chronology) are all over the place.
Yes, they are "all over the place". But, sometimes, that was on purpose. Here's a post shamelessly stolen from theforce.net (spoilers for the first episode):

"The very first episode was Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Jackel. Which was two episodes one right after the other as a 2 hour tv movie.

I remember that it feature Old Indy scolding some kids for sliding down the step's railing in a museum. Indy tells them about a Jackel's head that sits in the museum. Old Indy tells them about the Jackel's head and how it ended up in the museum.

The first part of the story is Indy as a young boy in Egypt with Howard Carter the man who found King Tut's tomb. In that episode Indy discovers a Jackel's head that is later stolen by the villian of the episode.

Part two is Indiana as teenager in Mexico when he meets the villain agian and reclaims the Jackel's head.

The story ends with the kids in the museum learning a lesson. The kids leave and when nobody is looking Old Indy slides backwards down the steps railing."


By removing the old Indy bumpers, cutting the show in half, and putting each hour in chronological order, the symmetry of the original airing is lost. I'm not saying that there isn't value to the re-edits... just pointing out that something is getting lost by doing that. No only entire scenes, but also some of the original intent of the stories.
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This just reminds me of the ridiculous amount of money I spent on the rare Japanese laserdisc box set, and then never watched.

http://japanld.free.fr/laserdisc.php?id=16107
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
This just reminds me of the ridiculous amount of money I spent on the rare Japanese laserdisc box set, and then never watched.

http://japanld.free.fr/laserdisc.php?id=16107
I never picked that up...I couldn't rationalize paying the high $$$$ when there were Japanese subs in picture. If it weren't for the subs, I would have been all over this, at just about any price.
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same on the laserdisc....i liked the bumpers...i'll take what i can get. I do hope they are in the special features
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Yes, they are "all over the place". But, sometimes, that was on purpose. Here's a post shamelessly stolen from theforce.net (spoilers for the first episode):

"The very first episode was Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Jackel. Which was two episodes one right after the other as a 2 hour tv movie.

I remember that it feature Old Indy scolding some kids for sliding down the step's railing in a museum. Indy tells them about a Jackel's head that sits in the museum. Old Indy tells them about the Jackel's head and how it ended up in the museum.

The first part of the story is Indy as a young boy in Egypt with Howard Carter the man who found King Tut's tomb. In that episode Indy discovers a Jackel's head that is later stolen by the villian of the episode.

Part two is Indiana as teenager in Mexico when he meets the villain agian and reclaims the Jackel's head.

The story ends with the kids in the museum learning a lesson. The kids leave and when nobody is looking Old Indy slides backwards down the steps railing."


By removing the old Indy bumpers, cutting the show in half, and putting each hour in chronological order, the symmetry of the original airing is lost. I'm not saying that there isn't value to the re-edits... just pointing out that something is getting lost by doing that. No only entire scenes, but also some of the original intent of the stories.
While that may be true, I kinda agree with Breakfast with Girl, that while watching the editted versions I feel that they stood pretty well on their own without these so-called bookends.
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Two years of work has already been completed on an eventual DVD box set of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles: The Complete Series, but it likely will not be released until the eventual theatrical or DVD debut of Indiana Jones 4.

thats right thats all you get....
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Ok george how about "Howard The Duck" next..Please...
Not sure if you're making a joke or not, but if you aren't, you're asking the wrong person. Lucas isn't responsible for Howard the Duck or it's eventual DVD release. He didn't create it, write it, direct it, nor does he own it. You need to write to the studio that released it and owns it. Lucas merely lent his name to the film as executive producer to help his friends who made the film.
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And i'm sure if he didn't want it released, they'd release it anyway.

Right..?
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I'll tell you what Rogue. If you believe Lucas is keeping this from being released, then I've got a bridge to sell. Lucas has no hangups about Howard the Duck from what I can tell. In fact, he jokes about it all the time even though he had next to nothing to do with it. He willingly talks about it when asked, again, even though it's not his film.

Again, try the studio because Lucas isn't keeping this from being released.

The Star Wars Holiday special is something you can be sure Lucas will never allow to be released. He's even said he'd burn every copy if he could. That one you can bet on.

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Originally Posted by Cameron
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Two years of work has already been completed on an eventual DVD box set of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles: The Complete Series, but it likely will not be released until the eventual theatrical or DVD debut of Indiana Jones 4.

thats right thats all you get....
Whatever the case, I can see a huge SRP for this one. First we're talking about Paramount, second we're talking about 22 "full length" movies, or 44 "hour episodes". The absolute cheapest discounted sale price for this I could see is around the $100 mark.
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And how many people are going to shell out $100 besides die-hard Indy fans? Even I will probably wait until a good sale to pick this up.
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Originally Posted by johnbook
Ok george how about "Howard The Duck" next..Please...
...or how about the OT?
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Originally Posted by JLB
...or how about the OT?
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or cut it up into two box sets...60 price range each


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