PopcornTreeCt

IMO, it is a subtle way of saying "LOOK AT ME I OWN A HD/BLU-RAY PLAYER!"

It doesn't bother me though. Someday I may have an HD player we will just have to wait and see which one wins.

Brent L

Here is the difference in my opinion:

When people post in a DVD thread that they aren't going to buy that DVD because they're waiting on the Bluray/HD-DVD, to me it's a threadcrap because they aren't even talking about the DVD itself. They have no intention to buy the DVD and never did intend to buy the DVD since they are waiting for the movie or whatever to show up on a totally different format. Why even post in a thread about the DVD?

When people post in a thread that they wont be buying the DVD because of a lack of extras, or it's in an aspect ratio they can't accept, or whatever reason, at least their reason is specific to the DVD format. Those people, at one time, did intend to buy that movie on the DVD format, but because of a reason specific to that format, they are simply posting their frustration, and giving the reason that they will have to pass on the DVD for the time being.

Maybe all of this isn't clear, but I'm not sure how else to explain it. It's not even a huge deal to me, but I did want to try to explain why I think that there is indeed a difference between the two.

nateman

Whats HD?

Blu-Ray? is that some sort of weapon used on star trek?

im stickin' with the DVD, im afraid a blu-ray laser is going to kill me and HD sound like a medical disease.

Bill Needle

If someone is posting that they are waiting for the SE that they know is coming, there may be others reading the thread that where not aware of that fact and may reconsider whether or not to buy the bare bones in the hand version.

What about someone posting in a HD/BR DVD announcement thread "I won't be getting this. I'll be getting the SD DVD." That would seem equally pointless, but I don't recall seeing that happening.

Fincher Fan

Consider that the DVD is essentially the blueprint for a hi-def release. The only thing that will be different is the resolution and possibly the layout of the supplements. I don't read it as showing off and those that do are probably projecting more into the statement than the author originally intended. Since the technology is available now, I think it's a fair call to say they'll for a potential release on that format. It only makes sense - look at how everybody complains about double-dipping.

SideShow

It doesn't annoy me personally but I can see why it'd be obnoxious. What bothers me is when people in the "what are you buying?" reply with "nothing this week". Um, o.... k. Thanks for sharing? I mean, I don't see the point in that, you're not sharing anything and why would anyone care what you're NOT buying if you read the thread title? Oh well.

NatrlBornThrllr

Liar.

BuckNaked2k

Do you mean actually posting that, or checking the button that says "nothing this week"? For me, it's rare these days that I will be interested in anything coming out on release day (only The Departed (so far) this year comes to mind). I will always check the button for "nothing" but will not actually post it in the thread.

fryinpan1

I do not see what the big deal is. New releases should also get HD releases the same day, and when they do not (Alexander Revisited, Blood Diamond, etc.), some people prefer to wait for the HD release. Most official studio announcements that are referenced and linked in these threads mention the HD releases and the DVD release at the same time, so why should people not discuss them at the same time?

Michael Corvin

It is quite annoying. This is a discussion forum and it adds nothing to the discussion.

I'd equate it to post padding more than thread crapping.

Well said. On the DVD side, complaining about lack of extras, aspect or whatnot actually means something since DVD is the dominant format and a double dip is damn near inevitable.

speedyray

If you go over to the HD forum you will find tons of threads about releases and many have post saying they are skipping the BD - HD-DVD versions for the SD version or a previously released SD version. No one gets bent out of shape.

This thread for example flat out tells people in general to stick with the CC Spartacus
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=495349


Oh, and I see the lack of an HD version on any release by a company supporting the HD formats as a huge lack of extra resolution. Some of us prefer extra resolution over extra pointless studio fluff disguised as a featurette. I wish one of the studios would grow some balls and try releasing something only in HD - if only for a peroid of time. Then we could start a thread complaining about all the people posting they will wait for a cheaper SD version.

mxv

If they want to wait for the version on their betamax 2006 technology more power to them, just like I'm waiting for there to be ONE definitive new format before I invest in it (that and the price to be the same as regular dvd/players). To each his own. With my new HDTV and an upscaling DVD player, i think standard dvds for the most part look great to me and with 450+ in my collection, I"m not about to start replacing stuff anytime soon and I keep buying the new releases that interest me.

Now were I one of those early adopters I'm not sure what I'd do if a movie came out on SD DVD and not HD/Blu Ray. If they had mad no announcement about those versions being in the works or the regular dvd had some sweet gimmick packaging, I'd just get that. If they had announced the HD versions being in the works and I knew when they'd come out, I'd wait.

Here's a question. Is anyone out there so married to the new formats that they refuse to buy regular dvds anymore? And if yes, even of things like TV show sets, etc that may not find a HD release?

darkside

No, many of us buy regular DVDs too. We are not threatened by a disc format the way you seem to be. It is obvious with your Betamax comment that your are jealous of HD video owners and I'm sorry for that. However, I don't agree that we have to go and hide in another forum because you have an inferiority complex. I still have 1000 DVDs and have no fear of HD video. I want the most from my HDTV and in some cases upscaled DVDs don't cut it. I was siding with most of the DVD posters to this point, but once I read crap like Betamax2006 I know what this debate is really about.

candyrocket786

Let see..

Rent it on SD
Pay-Per-View HD (if available)
HD Download on Marketplace (if available)
Wait for it to hit a premium HD channel

..or just don't buy it.


Thankfully, going to HD has pretty much eliminated most of my SD purchases. It's also forced me to become more selective about spending money in this hobby and pursuing other options.

roger_d

I say seperate the two. Have a place for us Regular dvd buyers and those who are upgrading to the new format. I for one and I'm sure there are quite a number of us who will not be upgrading due to putting so much time and money into the regular DVD format. I've seen a few sites that were pretty good in there reviews but now is 90 percent HD news and reviews. I no longer go to that sites.

DarthMarino

Well put, Brent. I relate this to threadcapping in a system specific forum for video games. Coming into a thread here and saying "I'll wait for the Blu-Ray" is the same as saying "I'll just get the Wii version of Tiger Woods '07" in a Playstation 3 thread. Saying "I'll wait for the special edition" would be the same as saying "Tiger Woods on Wii this year seems like it could use some improvements but I look forward to next years version which will no doubt be a better game."

If you have no intention of buying a certain release in one particular format there is really no reason to even enter the thread. I don't go to Playstation 3 forums because quite frankly I have zero interest in the system.

ScottsDvds

My HD-DVD player can play DVDs, so it's not a good example. It would be similar to someone coming in a Blu-Ray thread and saying "I'll buy the HD-DVD because it's better".

DarthMarino

Yes but in most cases your mind will already be made up on which version you are getting. Say you wanted the movie Babel. You're obviously going to buy one of it's high definition versions. Therefore coming into a thread on the standard release just to tell everyone you won't be getting it is a threadcap in my opinion. However, if it's a thread specifically about the high-definition releases then that absolutely warrants comments like "I will get the Blu-Ray version because the compression seems better". That would be the same as the discussions we have every week when there are multiple retailer exclusives like with the Departed and the more recent Casino Royale.

No one is saying you no longer have a right to discuss regular releases that will likely never hit high definition, its just that in most cases of new releases the Blu-Ray version will obviously come out also. Therefore, theres really no need to drop in every announcement thread to tell us simply that you are getting the Blu-Ray. If you come in to discuss the features included then thats fine.

Seantn

I'm sick of threads that complain about other things on the forum. They seem to be forum crapping.

speedyray

Its amazing that the studios can release one press announcement of a title for 2 or 3 formats and sometimes up to 4 versions of a film, yet the people not interested in HD think those that are should have to not post or go to another forum. Amazing. I also love that the people that are not upgrading think those that did have thrown all their DVDs out and only buy HD releases and thus have no reason to go into a DVD thread. As someone pointed out earlier, my HD-DVD player and BD player each can play DVD titles and do so on a pretty regular basis. I have purchased several DVDs lately. I have purchased several BD lately and several HD-DVD lately. I think I will post whatever comment I want about whatever format I want in the thread about a movie. These threads about new releases should be format agnostic. If it is a new release and an HD version was not announced, you can bet it will be.

Mr. Cinema

Some serious whining going on in this thread. Last I checked, the phrase "I'll pass, I'm waiting for Blu-Ray/HD DVD" isn't a threadcrap.

SideShow

No, I mean making an actual post.

madcougar

I have real problems that I have to worry about. So no.


Is that considered thread crapping?

NatrlBornThrllr

No, but it is comparable to padding your post count, because you're posting something that's not relevant to the thread (which is about the standard DVD release), and it's not furthering the discussion in said thread.

Would you go into a cycling forum to tell everybody that you're going to buy a Honda? Would you pop into a PS2 forum to tell everybody about your intentions to buy certain PS3 games? Take it a step further: what if, directly below those forums, were forums for Car Talk and PS3 discussions? Would you not expect those people to get annoyed with your constant posts that add absolutely nothing to their discussions? My bet is that yes, you certainly would.

The HDTalk subforum was created for a reason.

You're "sorry" that he's "jealous" of your snazzy new media format?
Geez, Freud, perhaps we should be discussing superiority complexes as opposed to inferiority complexes? Maybe?

FantasticVSDoom

I still dont get why people who have decided not to buy into HD/BD have such a problem with those who have. We all choose where and what to spend our money on. I still buy just as many SD-DVDs as HD-DVDs. Im not 16-years old anymore and I really dont care who knows what I have. Like myself and many others have said, I understand completely why most people havent made the jump into either format yet (hell sometimes I question myself sometimes, ) but to say some are threadcrapping because someone makes a comment about what they are or arent going to buy is ridiculous.