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Old 02-19-09, 12:12 PM
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Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

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I’m at the press junket for “Watchmen” and I just spoke to director Zack Snyder. I’ll have exact quotes posted in the next few hours, but I wanted to get this up asap.



While the theatrical release of “Watchmen” is about 2 hours 36 minutes, Zack just told me the DVD/Blu-ray will have two versions to appease the fans that wanted more.



There will be a director’s cut on the DVD that will be 3 hours 10 minutes and another cut with “Tales of the Black Freighter” that will be 3 hours 25 minutes!



He also told me what deleted scenes to expect and I’ll have those exact quotes in the next few hours. Look for an update soon.



3 UPDATES:

First - Here's exactly what Zack said



Second – Debbie Snyder, Zack’s wife and one of the Producers of “Watchmen”, said the director’s cut DVD should be out around Comic-Con this year and this fall we’ll be getting the Ultimate Edition which will have the Black Freighter stuff. Here are the quotes:









Collider: What is the final running time on the DVD and what can fans look forward to?


Zack: The final running time without the Black Freighter is 3 hours and 10 minutes.



Collider: When you say the Black Freighter, so you’re going to put in some of the animated bits?



Zack: No. The Black Freighter version of the movie, which we call the final cut or the ultimate cut – it has a marketed name that I don’t know exactly what it is. That version of the movie, because when we were up there we physically shot the in’s and out’s, scenes at the newsstand that go into the movie. There’s like scenes where our characters pass the newsstand and then we pick up action at the newsstand and it gets us into the Black Freighter….with shots that go into it and it comes to life and you follow the Black Freighter story and then come back into the movie. That version of the movie is the director’s cut with the Black Freighter intercut. That version sort of traces the structure of the Black Freighter that's integrated into the comic book… So that version is the 3 hour and 25 minute version. So you have all those in’s and out’s…but the director’s cut includes the Hollis death stuff, that’s just a lot more connective tissue…it’s hard for me to even remember exactly what’s in it. But it’s just a lot more.



Collider: So let me ask you, is there footage that isn’t going in this director’s cut that’s sitting on the sidelines…or is this really everything?



Zack: It’s really pretty much everything. The 3 hour version is pretty much everything. There was very little that we shot that I didn’t like or use.


Here’s what Debbie said:


Collider: What is coming on the DVD? Is there a director’s cut? A separate theatrical cut?



Debbie Snyder: They’re all done because we had to finish them all at the same time. We have the 3 hour director’s cut which will be released at the first release of the DVD…which will probably be around Comic-Con of this year.



Collider: Can I ask you, is there going to be a theatrical cut and a director’s cut on the same DVD or are these separate DVDs?



Debbie: I think on one of them, I don’t know if it’s the Blu-ray, I think it does exist together. But don’t hold me to it. We also did the craziest thing ever called “The In-Movie Experience” for Blu-ray which I’ve never seen before…where Zack actually…it’s like a director’s commentary but it’s him and there are all these boxes and they’ll play the movie and he’ll point to a scene and they’ll deconstruct the scene on all these monitors behind him where you can see the green screen version of it. Or if it’s Dr. Manhattan you can see some great effects. It’s kind of like “Minority Report” as it feels very futuristic. And then there will be, I believe, in the fall the Ultimate Watchmen cut which will have the Black Freighter thread through the film which includes the ins and outs that we shot at the newsstand so that’s pretty fun. And another thing is we finished all the versions and it was an enormous amount of money because of Dr. Manhattan. Because if you think about it, it was an hour difference between the theatrical version, so it’s a lot of visual effects on Dr. Manhattan and we finished it at the same quality so we were really excited that they let us do that.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Glad to know that the two releases are Theatrical, Director's Cut, and Ultimate.
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Debbie: I think on one of them, I don’t know if it’s the Blu-ray, I think it does exist together. But don’t hold me to it. We also did the craziest thing ever called “The In-Movie Experience” for Blu-ray which I’ve never seen before…where Zack actually…it’s like a director’s commentary but it’s him and there are all these boxes and they’ll play the movie and he’ll point to a scene and they’ll deconstruct the scene on all these monitors behind him where you can see the green screen version of it. Or if it’s Dr. Manhattan you can see some great effects. It’s kind of like “Minority Report” as it feels very futuristic.
So futuristic it was on the 300 HD DVD. Oh and the Mallrats DVD.
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is the theatrical cut 156 minutes? Everything I've seen denoting the running time states 163.
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Ahhh, nepotism.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Originally Posted by spainlinx0
Ahhh, nepotism.
Old 02-19-09, 04:09 PM
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So futuristic it was on the 300 HD DVD.
Yes, which her husband did. Very odd that she claims never to have heard of the In-Movie Experience before.
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I might watch the extended cut once but other then that i'll stick with the theatrical.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

So, let me get this straight, the Theatrical and Director's Cut versions will have their own separate release some time in July. Then, the so-called "Ultimate Edition" will be released a few months after that? I thinks that's a bunch of bs, but at least they are giving us a heads-up. I just hope the Blu-ray edition features both the DC and Extended DC in the same package.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

You can't blame them. They are selling The Black Freighter as a seperate release in late March, so to essentially to release it again as part of the movie in just a few months later for the same price won't exactly ingratiate the fans. They want to milk it for every cent they can.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

My math must be off, seems to be three
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Theatrical and Director's Cut will be one release.

Ultimate Edition will come out later.

Two releases.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

That's the way I understood it. I will wait to get the Ultimate Cut.

Also, perhaps what she meant by the IME being new to her was that it sounded like this particular IME uses multiple windows frequently to show all kinds of information as a scene plays, not just a person talking in a single window off to the right. But then again maybe she just wasn't involved with the 300 HD DVD.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Watchman? Did they cut it down to just one guy? Or is this a different film about horology?
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Originally Posted by TylerDurden_73
Zack: No. The Black Freighter version of the movie, which we call the final cut or the ultimate cut – it has a marketed name that I don’t know exactly what it is. That version of the movie, because when we were up there we physically shot the in’s and out’s, scenes at the newsstand that go into the movie. There’s like scenes where our characters pass the newsstand and then we pick up action at the newsstand and it gets us into the Black Freighter….with shots that go into it and it comes to life and you follow the Black Freighter story and then come back into the movie. That version of the movie is the director’s cut with the Black Freighter intercut. That version sort of traces the structure of the Black Freighter that's integrated into the comic book… So that version is the 3 hour and 25 minute version. So you have all those in’s and out’s…but the director’s cut includes the Hollis death stuff, that’s just a lot more connective tissue…it’s hard for me to even remember exactly what’s in it. But it’s just a lot more.
Snyder's rambling confuses me. So the Director's cut has Hollis Mason's death, the Ultimate Cut has the Black Freighter and neither has both?
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

More importantly, which version did Wil Wheaton see?

http://www.nerdist.com/2009/02/i-saw...-spoilers.html

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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

I agree, the rambling leaves me more confused than enlightened. How can it be the "ultimate" cut if it doesn't feature Hollis's death and a lot more connective tissue?

I am waiting to see if i even like the movie before i plan on which disc to buy. Especially with all this hype, I am skeptical about how Snyder is going to turn this out in a good way at all.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

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Snyder's rambling confuses me. So the Director's cut has Hollis Mason's death, the Ultimate Cut has the Black Freighter and neither has both?
Spoilers!
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Spoilers!
While it's definitely a spoiler (and should be hidden as such), admittedly it's an extremely minor one.
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Re: Watchman to have two releases...theatrical, director's cut and ultimate

Multiple releases, with three different cuts of the film, at different times. Annoying.
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Multiple releases, with three different cuts of the film, at different times. Annoying.
WB has to milk the most money possible out of this film now that they have to pass some of the revenue on to Fox.

Not that they wouldn't have tried to milk the most money possible before Fox sued and won..

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