Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
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Not really. I just watched my BD of TTT and remembered something that bugged me when I saw it theatrically. The theatrical cut of TTT is made with the assumption that you watched the extended cut of TTT. Frodo suddenly knowing that Gollum's true name is Smeagol makes no sense given that he didn't learn his name in the theatrical cut of FOTR. that bit of information is given in the extended cut of FOTR.
Also, the theatrcial cut of TTT actually drags quite a bit. Particularly any scene regarding Eomer. He comes across as a complete dick in the theatrical cut and his scenes grind the film to a halt. The extended cut actually fleshes him out a whole lot better and takes him from annoying asshole in boring scenes to intruigingly troubled man in an interesting moral dilemma.
Also, the theatrcial cut of TTT actually drags quite a bit. Particularly any scene regarding Eomer. He comes across as a complete dick in the theatrical cut and his scenes grind the film to a halt. The extended cut actually fleshes him out a whole lot better and takes him from annoying asshole in boring scenes to intruigingly troubled man in an interesting moral dilemma.
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I recently rewatched The EE of Two Towers, and really, there are a ton of scenes in it that simply too crucial to the movie.
Eomer and Faramir's characters are completely gutted in the theatrical cut, Faramir in particular, and the subplot with Aragorn being saved by a horse is simply "LOLWUT" in the theatrical cut, unlike in the EE where there is setup for it.
I mean, I can take or leave (hehe) the added Ent scenes in the EE, but the rest of it is crucial imo.
Fellowship I believe is neither helped nor harmed by the added material, whether its the theatrical cut or the extended cut, its still a masterpiece and one of the finest films of the decade. Actually, I take that back, the extended is better by virtue of more scenes with Sean Bean.
As for ROTK, im still not too sure. The EE is looooooooooooooooong as hell, but there are some terrific scenes added back in. I think, ROTK is just already so long, you might as well watch the extended version for a fuller experience.
Eomer and Faramir's characters are completely gutted in the theatrical cut, Faramir in particular, and the subplot with Aragorn being saved by a horse is simply "LOLWUT" in the theatrical cut, unlike in the EE where there is setup for it.
I mean, I can take or leave (hehe) the added Ent scenes in the EE, but the rest of it is crucial imo.
Fellowship I believe is neither helped nor harmed by the added material, whether its the theatrical cut or the extended cut, its still a masterpiece and one of the finest films of the decade. Actually, I take that back, the extended is better by virtue of more scenes with Sean Bean.
As for ROTK, im still not too sure. The EE is looooooooooooooooong as hell, but there are some terrific scenes added back in. I think, ROTK is just already so long, you might as well watch the extended version for a fuller experience.
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Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
I recently rewatched The EE of Two Towers, and really, there are a ton of scenes in it that simply too crucial to the movie.
Eomer and Faramir's characters are completely gutted in the theatrical cut, Faramir in particular, and the subplot with Aragorn being saved by a horse is simply "LOLWUT" in the theatrical cut, unlike in the EE where there is setup for it.
I mean, I can take or leave (hehe) the added Ent scenes in the EE, but the rest of it is crucial imo.
Fellowship I believe is neither helped nor harmed by the added material, whether its the theatrical cut or the extended cut, its still a masterpiece and one of the finest films of the decade. Actually, I take that back, the extended is better by virtue of more scenes with Sean Bean.
As for ROTK, im still not too sure. The EE is looooooooooooooooong as hell, but there are some terrific scenes added back in. I think, ROTK is just already so long, you might as well watch the extended version for a fuller experience.
Eomer and Faramir's characters are completely gutted in the theatrical cut, Faramir in particular, and the subplot with Aragorn being saved by a horse is simply "LOLWUT" in the theatrical cut, unlike in the EE where there is setup for it.
I mean, I can take or leave (hehe) the added Ent scenes in the EE, but the rest of it is crucial imo.
Fellowship I believe is neither helped nor harmed by the added material, whether its the theatrical cut or the extended cut, its still a masterpiece and one of the finest films of the decade. Actually, I take that back, the extended is better by virtue of more scenes with Sean Bean.
As for ROTK, im still not too sure. The EE is looooooooooooooooong as hell, but there are some terrific scenes added back in. I think, ROTK is just already so long, you might as well watch the extended version for a fuller experience.
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Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
Not really. I just watched my BD of TTT and remembered something that bugged me when I saw it theatrically. The theatrical cut of TTT is made with the assumption that you watched the extended cut of TTT. Frodo suddenly knowing that Gollum's true name is Smeagol makes no sense given that he didn't learn his name in the theatrical cut of FOTR. that bit of information is given in the extended cut of FOTR.
Also, the theatrcial cut of TTT actually drags quite a bit. Particularly any scene regarding Eomer. He comes across as a complete dick in the theatrical cut and his scenes grind the film to a halt. The extended cut actually fleshes him out a whole lot better and takes him from annoying asshole in boring scenes to intruigingly troubled man in an interesting moral dilemam.
Also, the theatrcial cut of TTT actually drags quite a bit. Particularly any scene regarding Eomer. He comes across as a complete dick in the theatrical cut and his scenes grind the film to a halt. The extended cut actually fleshes him out a whole lot better and takes him from annoying asshole in boring scenes to intruigingly troubled man in an interesting moral dilemam.
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I would love a 3rd cut of the movies, one that has pretty much everything that was filmed, edited into one, long single movie with no breaks - sorta like how Tolkien had written the book before it got split up by the publisher. I could see Jackson doing this before or after Hobbit comes out.
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I would love a 3rd cut of the movies, one that has pretty much everything that was filmed, edited into one, long single movie with no breaks - sorta like how Tolkien had written the book before it got split up by the publisher. I could see Jackson doing this before or after Hobbit comes out.
Haldir again proves problematic for the TTT portion of the films. Originally, Arwen was to arrive in Helm's Deep to aid Aragorn. The footage was shot and some pics were leaked online. Fans of the book went apeshit so the Helm's Deep sequence was reshot to feature Haldir and a company of elves arriving to assist Rohan.
The only alteration that was already handled (and rather well) was the fight between Aragorn and Sauron. Originally, Sauron was to appear as a rather handsome man and attempt to convince Aragorn to surrender. Aragorn refused and Sauron put on his armour (the same scene in the prologue of FOTR) and proceeded to kick Aragorn's ass until Gollum fell into Mount Doom with the Ring. I'm unsure if the Mouth of Sauron was a reshoot but I do know it's curious that his cadaver is missing after Aragorn beheads him in the EE. As for Sauron himself, although the parlay scene was cut, the actual fight was left in. Weta simply placed a CGI troll over Sauron during the fight. You can actually see a brief glimpse of the change in progress in one of the EE documentaries.
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^ in regards to the Mouth of Sauron, I don't think that was a reshoot, but I could be wrong, before the movie was actually released theatrically, it was pretty well known that Bruce Spence was the actor for that role, but when the film was then released the scene was no where to be found, but yes I do find it odd that his body is nowhere to be scene after he loses his head by Aragon.
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Its been so long since I watched the theatrical cuts, after looking up the differences, I couldn't believe that this scene was only in the Extended cut:
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Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
oddly enough...I was already signed up for notification for this when it gets a pre order date
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That trailer embedded above says that, but the one linked to on Amazon's site is clearly the Extended version trailer.
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Limited Extended Edition. "Limited"?....Really?
I'll bet it's "Limited" to how many they can sell.
I'll bet it's "Limited" to how many they can sell.
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If that box image is legitimate/official, I think New Line ought to be a little more careful with their hype words. "Limited Extended Edition" is a very confusing contradiction-in-terms. Is it longer? Is it shorter? Is it longer and shorter?
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My pain threshold on this set is $50.
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Just noticed this on the Amazon description (emphasis mine):
I'm guessing that means that for each film, we get one Blu-ray disc and then discs 3 and 4 from the Extended Edition DVDs, and disc two from the Limited Editions.
The Quest Is Over: All 3 Extended Versions in Dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe Set Includes 9 Special Features DVDs with over 26 Hours of Spellbinding Behind-the-Moviemaking Material Including the Rare Costa Botes Documentaries.
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Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
Not really interested in these at any kind of high price if all the extras are the same. I bought the theatrical BDs when they were $7.99 at amazon during Black Friday. I have the extendeds on DVD and will keep them as such unless the BDs come down to some unbelievable price. I smell a super-duper boxed set including these plus The Hobbit films down the road. I'll wait for that.