TERMINATOR: Salvation (aka T4)
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Originally Posted by matome
T3 was surprisingly good IMO, but I doubt anyone involved in the first three (particularly Arnie) will be back and it's gonna be a stretch to get a half-decent flick without them.
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Although I think it’s a bad idea that most likely will produce a horrible movie, I have no problem with this being made. If it sucks (like I'm sure it will) I won't see it or buy it. I'm a DVD completist but even I didn't buy Blade 3.
Also it would be silly to have Arnold in it (even if he was 20 years younger). The same as it was a bit silly to have him in T2 (and thereby making him unnecessary in T3). The terminators were designed only to infiltrate human populations. Making them all look the same would kind of make that difficult. In fact a different actor as a T-100 was shown in a flash back entering a compound in the first movie.
Showing an army of T-100's without skin fighting in formation was dumb too, if the machines were not constrained by the human shape (meaning, not intending to use them for infiltration) they would have made them much more efficient (i.e. using human weapons requiring human hands, having only two arms, only two front facing eyes, etc.).
Yeah, I'm a geek. I loved T2, but most of it was a bit silly.
Also it would be silly to have Arnold in it (even if he was 20 years younger). The same as it was a bit silly to have him in T2 (and thereby making him unnecessary in T3). The terminators were designed only to infiltrate human populations. Making them all look the same would kind of make that difficult. In fact a different actor as a T-100 was shown in a flash back entering a compound in the first movie.
Showing an army of T-100's without skin fighting in formation was dumb too, if the machines were not constrained by the human shape (meaning, not intending to use them for infiltration) they would have made them much more efficient (i.e. using human weapons requiring human hands, having only two arms, only two front facing eyes, etc.).
Yeah, I'm a geek. I loved T2, but most of it was a bit silly.
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I wonder if Nick Stahl is waiting for the phone call to play Connor again?
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Terminator 4 Is Coming
Halcyon, a privately funded company, has bought the rights to the Terminator franchise from Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar, with plans to produce a fourth film, Variety reported. The first three Terminator films all featured Arnold Schwarzenegger; it's unlikely the current governor of California would be involved in the fourth film.
Terminator 4 would be based on a script by writers John Brancato and Michael Ferris, who penned Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The script, which has been kept under tight wraps, picks up with John Connor in his 30s, leading what's left of the human race against the machines. It is being seen as the start of a new trilogy and an attempt to reinvent the franchise with new cast and plotlines, a la Batman Begins and Casino Royale.
Moritz Borman, the former CEO of Intermedia Films and executive producer of T3, will produce. Kubicek and Anderson will co-produce, and former PolyGram Films marketing president Peter D. Graves will be executive producer and oversee marketing of the picture.
Halcyon was created by entrepreneurs Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. It acquired the right to produce Terminator films, future merchandising and licensing ventures.
No director or cast has yet been secured for Terminator 4, which is being earmarked for a summer 2009 release.
Meanwhile, the trade paper reported that the Fox broadcast network is said to be impressed with The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a Warner Brothers TV-produced hourlong drama pilot based on the Terminator characters and mythology. It could be ordered to series as early as this week.
Halcyon, a privately funded company, has bought the rights to the Terminator franchise from Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar, with plans to produce a fourth film, Variety reported. The first three Terminator films all featured Arnold Schwarzenegger; it's unlikely the current governor of California would be involved in the fourth film.
Terminator 4 would be based on a script by writers John Brancato and Michael Ferris, who penned Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The script, which has been kept under tight wraps, picks up with John Connor in his 30s, leading what's left of the human race against the machines. It is being seen as the start of a new trilogy and an attempt to reinvent the franchise with new cast and plotlines, a la Batman Begins and Casino Royale.
Moritz Borman, the former CEO of Intermedia Films and executive producer of T3, will produce. Kubicek and Anderson will co-produce, and former PolyGram Films marketing president Peter D. Graves will be executive producer and oversee marketing of the picture.
Halcyon was created by entrepreneurs Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. It acquired the right to produce Terminator films, future merchandising and licensing ventures.
No director or cast has yet been secured for Terminator 4, which is being earmarked for a summer 2009 release.
Meanwhile, the trade paper reported that the Fox broadcast network is said to be impressed with The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a Warner Brothers TV-produced hourlong drama pilot based on the Terminator characters and mythology. It could be ordered to series as early as this week.
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I like what Jonathan Mostow did with T3, maybe they should try hiring him again to do T4.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
I like what Jonathan Mostow did with T3, maybe they should try hiring him again to do T4.
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I'm all for it. The main story with the Terminator has been told. Let's have some robot mayhem! Hell, the Alien and Predator franchises have ran their course, let's have the Alien v. Predator sequel take place in the future and let skynet fight them both.
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Originally Posted by Jason
I'm all for it. The main story with the Terminator has been told. Let's have some robot mayhem! Hell, the Alien and Predator franchises have ran their course, let's have the Alien v. Predator sequel take place in the future and let skynet fight them both.
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I want the most excessive "Vs." comic that Dark Horse ever came up with.
Aliens vs. Predator vs. Terminator.
Is there a comic they did that is more excessive than this?
EDIT: Found something even more excessive.
http://aliensvsetc.ytmnd.com/
Aliens vs. Predator vs. Terminator.
Is there a comic they did that is more excessive than this?
EDIT: Found something even more excessive.
http://aliensvsetc.ytmnd.com/
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I have no problem neither Arnold or Linda being in the movies. Hopefully, these will be decent movies, as I've always wanted to see some robot fighting.
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Arnold is in the movie, kinda. He has apparently licensed his image and will drop in to do headcasts but will likely not actually be on set for anything. Still, it's nice -- it means at least if John drops in on a Terminator factory, it'll still be Arnold.
http://www.moviehole.net/news/200705...ext_three.html
http://www.moviehole.net/news/200705...ext_three.html
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Yeah, that's all they need really... I'd be satisfied with that. I do hope they bring back Stahl and Danes though....they're in their late 20's, so age would work.
Man, can't believe they were filming T3 five yrs ago... time's flyin.
Man, can't believe they were filming T3 five yrs ago... time's flyin.
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WB restarts 'Terminator'
'Salvation' begins production in early 2008
By MICHAEL FLEMING
After producing 'Terminator 3,' Warner Bros. had first dibs on the fourth pic, which aims to reinvent the franchise.
Warner Bros. has acquired North American distrib rights to "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins," triggering an early 2008 production start for a film that seeks to reinvent the cyborg saga with a storyline to be told over a three-pic span.
WB plans to distribute "Terminator Salvation" in summer 2009.
The Warner deal dashes MGM's hopes of corralling distribution rights to the film. The Lion planned to pepper its slate with tentpoles such as "The Hobbit" and "Terminator," but neither project has worked out for the distributor.
Halcyon sued MGM in July in Los Angeles Superior Court, claming the distrib was interfering with its distribution plans on the fourth "Terminator" film on the basis of an MGM claim that it had acquired an exclusive 30-day negotiating window.
The "Terminator" pic franchise got a new lease on life in spring, when privately funded Halcyon and its co-CEOs Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson teamed with "Terminator 3" exec producer Moritz Borman to acquire film, merchandising and licensing rights from ex-Carolco partners Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar. Kubicek, Anderson and Borman are producing the new film, with Peter D. Graves as exec producer.
WB had first right of negotiation for domestic theatrical and TV distribution rights because the studio played the same role on 2003's Jonathan Mostow-directed "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines." That pic posted a domestic gross of $150 million and a worldwide total of $427 million.
The producers said that the new film will carry the size and scale of "Terminator 3," and will have an event-sized budget. It will likely be less than the $200 million pricetag of "Terminator 3," which was saddled with extravagant costs that included above the line payouts, rights payments and heavy fees incurred through a complex financial structure.
Warner Bros. is also producing a smallscreen "Terminator" adaptation, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," for Fox's midseason sked.
WB's commitment solidified the pic's financing structure and ensured a start date, producers said. They will now zero in on overseas distribution. Sony Pictures Entertainment, which distributed "T3" in most overseas territories, is expected to get first crack at a reprise. Several other territories are spoken for, including Japan, where Toho-Towa is expected to distribute once again.
A screenplay has been completed by "Terminator 3" scribes John Brancato and Michael Ferris, and the financiers and studio are close to locking a director. While industry buzz has "Charlie's Angels" director McG as the odds-on favorite for the assignment, the producers said no final decision had yet been made.
The first two "Terminator" films, directed by James Cameron, used contemporary settings to pit Sarah and John Connor against indestructible cyborgs. "T3" was also set in the present day and ended just as the machines initiated a nuclear apocalypse. "Terminator Salvation" was deliberately not given a number after its title, because Halcyon is eager to make it clear that the fourth film heads into an entirely different setting.
"This is set in the future, in a full-scale war between Skynet and humankind," Anderson told Daily Variety.
Borman said: "The third film was really the conclusion of what happened in the 'now.' You will find the most-loved characters, but the intention here is to present a fresh new world and have this be the first of a trilogy."
The producers said it wasn't yet clear whether Arnold Schwarzenegger will be back for his fourth appearance in the franchise that launched his movie career. "T3" was the last film in which he starred before becoming governor of California.
"We've left it open for him to maybe do a cameo," Borman said. "He has an important job, as we know, and the final decision will be based on his desire and availability, along with what the director wants."
The move on "Terminator" comes after Halcyon secured first-look rights to the literary works of sci-fi master Philip K. Dick.
'Salvation' begins production in early 2008
By MICHAEL FLEMING
After producing 'Terminator 3,' Warner Bros. had first dibs on the fourth pic, which aims to reinvent the franchise.
Warner Bros. has acquired North American distrib rights to "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins," triggering an early 2008 production start for a film that seeks to reinvent the cyborg saga with a storyline to be told over a three-pic span.
WB plans to distribute "Terminator Salvation" in summer 2009.
The Warner deal dashes MGM's hopes of corralling distribution rights to the film. The Lion planned to pepper its slate with tentpoles such as "The Hobbit" and "Terminator," but neither project has worked out for the distributor.
Halcyon sued MGM in July in Los Angeles Superior Court, claming the distrib was interfering with its distribution plans on the fourth "Terminator" film on the basis of an MGM claim that it had acquired an exclusive 30-day negotiating window.
The "Terminator" pic franchise got a new lease on life in spring, when privately funded Halcyon and its co-CEOs Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson teamed with "Terminator 3" exec producer Moritz Borman to acquire film, merchandising and licensing rights from ex-Carolco partners Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar. Kubicek, Anderson and Borman are producing the new film, with Peter D. Graves as exec producer.
WB had first right of negotiation for domestic theatrical and TV distribution rights because the studio played the same role on 2003's Jonathan Mostow-directed "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines." That pic posted a domestic gross of $150 million and a worldwide total of $427 million.
The producers said that the new film will carry the size and scale of "Terminator 3," and will have an event-sized budget. It will likely be less than the $200 million pricetag of "Terminator 3," which was saddled with extravagant costs that included above the line payouts, rights payments and heavy fees incurred through a complex financial structure.
Warner Bros. is also producing a smallscreen "Terminator" adaptation, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," for Fox's midseason sked.
WB's commitment solidified the pic's financing structure and ensured a start date, producers said. They will now zero in on overseas distribution. Sony Pictures Entertainment, which distributed "T3" in most overseas territories, is expected to get first crack at a reprise. Several other territories are spoken for, including Japan, where Toho-Towa is expected to distribute once again.
A screenplay has been completed by "Terminator 3" scribes John Brancato and Michael Ferris, and the financiers and studio are close to locking a director. While industry buzz has "Charlie's Angels" director McG as the odds-on favorite for the assignment, the producers said no final decision had yet been made.
The first two "Terminator" films, directed by James Cameron, used contemporary settings to pit Sarah and John Connor against indestructible cyborgs. "T3" was also set in the present day and ended just as the machines initiated a nuclear apocalypse. "Terminator Salvation" was deliberately not given a number after its title, because Halcyon is eager to make it clear that the fourth film heads into an entirely different setting.
"This is set in the future, in a full-scale war between Skynet and humankind," Anderson told Daily Variety.
Borman said: "The third film was really the conclusion of what happened in the 'now.' You will find the most-loved characters, but the intention here is to present a fresh new world and have this be the first of a trilogy."
The producers said it wasn't yet clear whether Arnold Schwarzenegger will be back for his fourth appearance in the franchise that launched his movie career. "T3" was the last film in which he starred before becoming governor of California.
"We've left it open for him to maybe do a cameo," Borman said. "He has an important job, as we know, and the final decision will be based on his desire and availability, along with what the director wants."
The move on "Terminator" comes after Halcyon secured first-look rights to the literary works of sci-fi master Philip K. Dick.
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I agree, McG is Death!
I'd like to see Mostow back on board, but it sounds like WB is trying to distance itself from the first 3 films.
I'd like to see Mostow back on board, but it sounds like WB is trying to distance itself from the first 3 films.
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I'm all for a cameo by the Governator if he's available next year. When does his term as California Governor run out anyways?
BTW, no McG!!! He already ruined the Charlie's Angels movies....not that they were even good in the 1st place. I'm totally for Mostow returning as Director.
BTW, no McG!!! He already ruined the Charlie's Angels movies....not that they were even good in the 1st place. I'm totally for Mostow returning as Director.
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Terminator is 90 percent Linda Hamilton to me, she delivered undeniable to me similar to Weaver and Alien films so I'm going bow out on these as 3rd one was pain full enough. I do wish you brave folks the best though, I just cant imagine it ending any other way then meh.
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I guess the big question is will Michael Biehn be in this if this is the future wars they are talking about. I would think that this is about the battle to send Reese back into time.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
If it starts with John and Kate coming out of the bunker and starting the resistance, it could be pretty cool. However, with those screenwriters attached, I'm not expecting much.
Sorry. For some reason, I just had to make this oh-so-witty retort.