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Old 04-09-08, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iconoclasm
You are talking about people who are overweight but they are likely underfat from all of the exercise. That isnt unhealthy.
That was my point. I was replying to what was said about being overweight but "fit as a fiddle." There's no such thing as an obese health person. overweight, sure, but you know, it's not that hard to lose those few extra pounds. a few pounds is fine, but any more than that and you're asking for trouble.

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I'm sure that's exactly what he's saying.

Because really, if that's what you think the point of his post was, then you should probably try using a little comprehension when reading.
the guy said he visualized fat people solely blaming McDonald's for their obesity. What didn't I comprehend, smart guy?

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Old 04-09-08, 09:54 PM
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Wow. What hostilities. Interestingly I saw this movie in India on my friend's computer. In India only rich people can be fat and for a long time people equated being fat with being prosperous and happy. Obesity is a huge problem in the middle class exactly because of a lack of activity and the availibility of fast food(Indian and Western). Most Indian food doesn't inherently have a lot of fat if it is made carefully. But people there still have that mentality that if they eat out, only rich people can afford butter so the really rich people ask for extra butter or cheese etc....
My cousing is overweight(not obese) but he alsways asks for extra cheese and butter in food whenever he goes out. When I was growing up there, people from good families did not eat out because take everything you hear about restaurant cleanliness here and multiply it by about a thousand times worse over there. Now, because of life becoming more fast paced, it isn't unusual for every middle class family to eat out at least once or twice a week.
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Originally Posted by iconoclasm
I did think it was weird that the dude who ate all of those big macs had 140 cholesterol. He never at the fries or drink, just the big macs, still that is a shitload of meat
Like the risk factors of smoking, I really believe genetics are a HUGE factor in what foods put you at high risk.
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
It also helps to note that he was basically a vegetarian / vegan (can't remember which) prior to starting this movie. His girlfriend had him whittled down to rarely eating meat, but hadn't coerced him into quitting altogether.
His girlfriend

I want to date her.
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they're married now.
Old 04-10-08, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
I'm sure that's exactly what he's saying.

Because really, if that's what you think the point of his post was, then you should probably try using a little comprehension when reading.
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Originally Posted by Neil M.
It's funny. Everytime I see or hear about Super Size Me, I always visualize an overweight person finishing the movie and saying, "Yeah, it's McDonald's fault." Then he puts in the next dvd and sits on his couch with a bag of chips in hand.
you think he's not calling out fat people as stupid here?
Old 04-10-08, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by iconoclasm


I think the point of the film, or one of the points, is that Mcdonalds targets children, with the cartoons, the clown, the jungle gym etc. They hook kids early and get them started on bad habits and addicted to fast food.
This was indeed a point, and one I hadn't thought of that way. The funzones bring parents and their kids. The idea is that they get kids to associate McDonald's with happiness and fun. So years down the road they still have the same gut reaction: McD's = happiness.

It has made us avoid, I think, taking the kids to any of the fast food playgrounds.
Old 04-10-08, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by iconoclasm
according to their nutrition fact sheet they no longer offer the super size. It wouldnt surprise me if specific stores had promotions for special sizes using different names other than "super fries", "super drink" etc.

as for the scene of him vomiting, i *think* the point was that the people who order the super size, they are gorging them self by ordering the super size. And someone who is used to eating normal sizes would be overwhelmed and throw up all of it IF they tried eating a super size. That was day 1 or day 2 iirc and he wasnt accustomed to it.



I think the point of the film, or one of the points, is that Mcdonalds targets children, with the cartoons, the clown, the jungle gym etc. They hook kids early and get them started on bad habits and addicted to fast food.

If a smoker starts smoking at a young age, and then watches a film about Phillip Morris and how they buy off politicians to keep marketing cigarettes to younger generations(which is exactly what they do), the smoker would probably light up and say "damn tobacco companies!" Food addicts and drug addicts arent that different. The caffeine in the coke, the additives in the processed foods, those are all addictive.

The only difference that I can think of is second hand smoke, and that hurts people around them. I dont think being fat hurts people around them unless someone is so fat that they dont see someone sitting on a seat, and then they sit on them and smoosh them.



that is certainly part of it. People dont get any exercise if they drive everywhere. I guess that is bound to change somewhat as the price of gas shoots up to $5-$10/gallon. Gas prices are insanely expensive(about double what we pay) in europe and asia.



Thats just it, the super size was only a little bit more than the large size(like 20 cents) according to the film. Super size is no longer offered, so I dont have any way of verifying that.



Did you even watch the movie? It takes a look at the shit food that is sold in schools, and the different ways that mcdonalds targets children

I think the only reason that he only ate the super size when offered is that he would not survive a few days if he only ate the super sizes. That, and he kept track of which stores offered the super size, the fattest state, texas, offered him super size 5 times of the 10 times he was offered super size.

The moral is that people actually eat the super sizes, and doing so is ridulously unhealthy. The fact that the super size is even offered is so people have the option to overeat for only a few cents more, then they make a habit of it.



You are talking about people who are overweight but they are likely underfat from all of the exercise. That isnt unhealthy.

It would be unhealthy for someone to be underweight but overfat. At one point in the film, he went in for the weekly weigh in, and they said, 'thats weird you actually lost a pound in the past week." then they said that muscle weighs more than fat so he was probably just losing muscle while he was gaining fat.
at least "the Jungle gym" promotes and induces a little bit of physical exhertion.
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you think he's not calling out fat people as stupid here?
I don't see anything about the person's intelligence in my statement. But since you brought it up, he happened to graduate from an Ivy League school. And he has a smoking hot wife.
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Originally Posted by Neil M.
I don't see anything about the person's intelligence in my statement. But since you brought it up, he happened to graduate from an Ivy League school. And he has a smoking hot wife.
You said overweight people seeing this movie will simply blame McDonald's, which suggests that overweight people aren't smart enough to know about other contributing factors.

who's he? are you talking in the third person? seriously, that's one of the lamest ways of talking, EVER. I never questioned your intelligence, just what you were insinuating.

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I'm not talking in the third person. I know you never questioned my intelligence. I never said you did. But you did interpret my post incorrectly. My visualization is simply fictional and not a representation of overweight people in general, no matter how much you think or say it is. It is not a statement of how people WILL view the movie, but how they CAN view the movie. And I get a laugh out of it.

Having said that, there are people who blame the corporations for their problems. I disagree with this wholeheartedly but they're entitled to their opinions. But those are mostly people who don't want to blame themselves at all.
Old 04-10-08, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil M.
It is not a statement of how people WILL view the movie, but how they CAN view the movie. And I get a laugh out of it.
well yeah, anyone CAN be stupid, that's not really much of a point.
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Originally Posted by Giles
at least "the Jungle gym" promotes and induces a little bit of physical exhertion.
They could really use a giant hampster wheel, let the children get all amped up on the mcflurries and giant size cokes and burn off some of the other shit they just ate.
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I throw up at all the love for Spurlock.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I throw up at all the love for Spurlock.
If it helps you keep your weight down, then we've done our part.

I don't all the hate for Spurlock. I wasn't aware that he was as polarizing as Michael Moore. But now I dream of the day that Moore and Spurlock work on a project together.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go see if "Where In the World is Osama Bin Laden?" is playing anywhere near me.
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they're married now.
I never watch his show, so I had no idea. I thought they broke up not long after Super Size Me was filmed.

I guess once she saw he could make some real money off a lame idea she decided to stick around.

So I never watch his 30 Days show....did he ever go completely vegan for 30 days to see what kind of effect that had on his health?
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I don't think so, but I'm sure you could ask a vegan and find out pretty easily.

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