Jay G.

This is just nitpicking, and it seems your primary motivation is that you're embarrassed you never noticed the dice before.

The significance of the dice was set up entirely in this film for those who had never noticed them before. Luke is investigating the Falcon, and notices an item on it that reminds him of Han. He later gives that item to Leia. There's really little doubt about what the dice signify. Plus, it was something small that Luke could've reasonably pocketed, could've been overlooked before, and could easily hand to Leia.

Luke pulling a vest out of his robe would've been less graceful, and honestly somewhat odd. Why would he take the vest? Could Luke not quit Han?

Mike86

Why would I be embarrassed to not have noticed something that’s barely visible in foreground shots? The point of the scene was for Luke to have given something in memory of Han to Leia as a way of comforting her in a moment of weakness. Han wore the vest a good amount of time during the Original Trilogy and it’s something that people would have been able to tie directly to him. Granted yeah it’s a bigger item but he could have had it folded or something and just been holding it to give her. I did admit I was nitpicking but I hardly doubt I’m the only one who wouldn’t know the significance of the dice even as a fairly big fan.

GoldenJCJ

Luke: “Leia, I wanted to give you something more personal from Han, like his vest. But that creepy fuck Lando stole it and wore it around the Galaxy for the last 38 years. Here’s some dice instead.”

Mike86

I did forget Lando apparently raided Han’s clothes.

Draven

But the dice were in the Falcon from the first time we saw it in ANH. Then Luke saw them again in TLJ, grabbed them and gave them to Leia.

So it's not a cheat because they were there in the original trilogy. But TLJ reminds you of that (like it should for audience members who never noticed them) and then uses that significance as a pay-off at the end of the movie.

I knew of them because the Falcon is my favorite ship and I've read all sorts of trivia about it over the years. But even if you didn't know about the dice, you do now because the movie made a point of showing them to you.

Mike86

Yeah it’s whatever. I agree it’s not a cheat I’m just saying something with more significance we know Han wore or used would have been more impactful.

Jay G.

I don't know, you're the one getting all defensive about it.

I mean, your original post was this:
The answer is: yes, yes, they were.

Instead, of going, "oh, that's good to know, thanks," you've instead harped on about how unnoticeable they were in the original trilogy, and that they should've picked something else.

I actually think calling them out could make a nice little Easter egg for people going back to watch the original Star Wars. Suddenly a small joke prop has extra significance. It's the best form of call-back.

Mike86

You call that defensive? Really? I was simply questioning if I had missed them which clearly I did. I'm not mad about it at all or anything. If anything it seems like you're getting upset over me saying something else more relatable to Han would have been a better alternative.

Jay G.

Now you're getting defensive about being defensive...

Toddarino

I've never noticed them before either. When Luke handed them over I just assumed it was some trinket that was never explained or half explained like all the setups in Force Awakens.

Mike86

Whatever dude. I was in that post but I wasn’t in the post you originally cited. I’m not even sure how you took it that way.

Jay G.

So you missed earlier in the film where Luke gets them from the Millennium Falcon?

TGM

His vest, his gun, his belt...

As for the dice, I guess I just never noticed them, or made any really connection with them to Han Solo before, so if it was meant to pull at my heart strings it simply failed.

Draven

You wanted Luke to give Leia his BELT

Again, the point isn’t that YOU make the connection. Leia made the connection because those dice have been with Han since Day 1 of her meeting him. Just because it wasn’t something you associate with Han doesn’t mean it’s also insignificant to the characters.

And the movie went out of its way to make that connection for you. If the earlier scene of Luke seeing them hadn’t been there I would have been inclined to agree it was too much of a reach.

majorjoe23

I gave my estranged wife a belt once. She bumped the restraining order back another 100 yards.

fumanstan

I'm a fairly casual Star Wars fan and I don't think I've ever noticed the dice as something associated with Han either.

Draven

You shouldn't have - they were basically an Easter egg in the first movie. But the point is that they WERE there, and when Luke saw them in the Falcon in TLJ that's a fun call-out to hardcore fans AND since they were in the cockpit, Leia would know about them too.

The only thing I can think of that would work that both the audience AND Leia would immediately associate with Han is his blaster and that would have been weird to pass on like that.

fumanstan

I got the reasoning behind it, and understood the significance in the context of the movie. I'm just saying that until TLJ, I never knew anything about them in relation to Han Solo like a few others here.

mewmartigan

I mentioned this in the other thread but in the extras for The Force Awakens there is a scene of Harrison Ford in full costume hanging the dice back up in the Falcon. They should have left that scene in TFA to kinda show Han taking the Falcon back after he finds it.

GoldenJCJ

Hmm, too bad. As I’m sure there will be a scene of young Han hanging the dice in Solo it would have been nice bookends for Han and the Millenium Falcon.

Draven

Fair enough.

What frustrates me about this dice thing is if I was watching a TV show and a character talked about the significance of a toy they had as a child at the beginning of the hour and by the end someone gave them that toy for their birthday, I don’t think anyone would complain that they should have showed that toy 5 seasons ago for it to be significant. That’s what “he should have given her Han’s vest” feels like.

Mike86

I think the thing is we’re meant to think that suddenly these dice that have never been mentioned and are barely visible before the scene in The Last Jedi are suddenly of some importance to Han and in turn Leia. At the end of the day it’s a nitpicky thing but I do think something else that relates more to Han directly may have made more sense.

Toddarino

No I remember that scene, but like I mentioned I had no idea what they were or their significance. And I've seen A New Hope more times than I can count.

Mike86

Greg MacGuffin

I keep laughing at the image of Luke pulling some smelly old vest out of his robe and being like, "Here you go, Leia. Here's Han's vest."