Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
05-21-19, 06:49 PM
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I think Tarantino is the only director that gets me really excited on his name alone anymore. Sadly I can’t even say that about Spielberg or James Cameron anymore.
05-21-19, 07:03 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
holy fuck i want to see this now!!!! and to know Luke Perry is in it, makes more poignant. but fuck damn i love Tarantino!!!!!!
05-21-19, 07:50 PM
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Quentin Tarantino, Brad Pitt, and Leonardo DiCaprio Take You Inside 'Once Upon a Time...In Hollywood'
As the director unveils his highly anticipated ninth film, Esquire sits him down with his headlining stars for a provocative three-way Q&A about Hollywood past and present. But what's Charles Manson and River Phoenix got to do with it?
https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...ino-interview/
As the director unveils his highly anticipated ninth film, Esquire sits him down with his headlining stars for a provocative three-way Q&A about Hollywood past and present. But what's Charles Manson and River Phoenix got to do with it?
https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...ino-interview/
05-22-19, 02:50 AM
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05-22-19, 08:30 AM
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Full press conference from Cannes:
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Interesting... a reporter seemingly tried to pull some bullshit and create a false narrative by asking why Margot Robbie wasn’t given more to say or do in the movie. Quentin, of course, shuts it down by “I reject your hypothesis." The end.
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Interesting... a reporter seemingly tried to pull some bullshit and create a false narrative by asking why Margot Robbie wasn’t given more to say or do in the movie. Quentin, of course, shuts it down by “I reject your hypothesis." The end.
05-22-19, 09:36 AM
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Oh my goodness. I’m glad he shot the question down. It’s this new fucked up mindset. I call it “accountant style film criticism”. Where these dumb shits count how many words are spoken by a woman or other minority and then correlate that with importance and therefore quality. So fucking reductive. People with flawed thinking like that don’t even really like movies, I can’t fathom why they are given access like this. Their “accountant” practices are how they make up for lacking the sort of deep, substantive knowledge of film art that a person like Tarantino possesses.
05-22-19, 09:49 AM
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Cameron
Tarantino
The Coens
IMO, all 3 make American cinematic masterpieces.
All 3 make films no other filmmaker can make.
All 3 are truly artists.
05-22-19, 09:55 AM
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Oh my goodness. I’m glad he shot the question down. It’s this new fucked up mindset. I call it “accountant style film criticism”. Where these dumb shits count how many words are spoken by a woman or other minority and then correlate that with importance and therefore quality. So fucking reductive. People with flawed thinking like that don’t even really like movies, I can’t fathom why they are given access like this. Their “accountant” practices are how they make up for lacking the sort of deep, substantive knowledge of film art that a person like Tarantino possesses.
Unfortunately, it sows seeds of division in a country barely hanging together as it is.
It's a sad spectacle...
05-22-19, 10:10 AM
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And of course it’s a question from an American newspaper. The other nations seem to be able to ask reasonable questions. Except that one chick who basically asked what’s the meaning of life.
05-22-19, 10:16 AM
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QT don't give a fuck. "I reject your hypothesis." Check out everyone's eyes when he says that. 
05-22-19, 10:20 AM
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It's a silly argument when such a question is posed to the guy who made Jackie Brown and Kill Bill, for sure.
There IS a case to be made about representation and all that, but... not really in this context at all.
There IS a case to be made about representation and all that, but... not really in this context at all.
05-22-19, 11:37 AM
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It is ridiculous how it is being reported as him "lashing out."
05-22-19, 01:59 PM
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what's the question? Don't really want to see the 34 minute video
05-22-19, 02:12 PM
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It's around the 33 minute mark, right at the end. The question isn't very aggressive at all, and Quentin's response - though short at only 6 words - is definitely not "lashing out." 
Robbie's response is totally fine, too.
Sadly, the news cycle will probably turn this into "Angry NYT feminist calls out QT for misogyny and QT DESTROYS her!" or some nonsense. I expect to see 200 angry bro videos on YouTube about this in the next few days.
Robbie's response is totally fine, too.
Sadly, the news cycle will probably turn this into "Angry NYT feminist calls out QT for misogyny and QT DESTROYS her!" or some nonsense. I expect to see 200 angry bro videos on YouTube about this in the next few days.
05-22-19, 02:27 PM
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I came here to post that.
'I reject your hypothesis': Tarantino lashes out at criticism over female actors -The Guardian
Quentin Tarantino Snaps at Reporter When Asked About Margot Robbie's Limited Role in 'Once Upon a Time In Hollywood' -Variety
Sensationalism sells even if it's at the expense of truth and accuracy.
As far as the journalist goes, to be fair, she has a job to do like the rest, which is to ask unique and though-provoking questions. Considering that Tarantino is doing a story that incorporates the real life story of someone being murdered, tough questions should be expected. Does Margot Robbie have a non-speaking role or is it just a limited role in general?
I think Tarantino could have handled the question a little better. "There's a reason for how each character is portrayed, but I don't want to give too much away."
'I reject your hypothesis': Tarantino lashes out at criticism over female actors -The Guardian
Quentin Tarantino Snaps at Reporter When Asked About Margot Robbie's Limited Role in 'Once Upon a Time In Hollywood' -Variety
Sensationalism sells even if it's at the expense of truth and accuracy.
As far as the journalist goes, to be fair, she has a job to do like the rest, which is to ask unique and though-provoking questions. Considering that Tarantino is doing a story that incorporates the real life story of someone being murdered, tough questions should be expected. Does Margot Robbie have a non-speaking role or is it just a limited role in general?
I think Tarantino could have handled the question a little better. "There's a reason for how each character is portrayed, but I don't want to give too much away."
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05-22-19, 05:12 PM
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There was nothing thought-provoking about her question. It was meant to pile onto the current narrative of "if women don't get exact equality in all things then it's sexist" and that's bullshit. She had every chance to ask a legitimately insightful question about film, but she chose to ask something stupid. QT's response was perfectly succinct because garbage questions don't deserve thoughtful answers.
05-22-19, 06:54 PM
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If you visit her Twitter he’s right. That is what she’s all about. There are posts from earlier in the week like, “Does Cannes have a problem with women?”
And she’s not a film critic, she’s a style and culture critic. Like a female Richard Roeper.
And she’s not a film critic, she’s a style and culture critic. Like a female Richard Roeper.
05-22-19, 07:27 PM
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On the other hand, considering how women are objectified, and that the film is based around Sharon Tate's murder and features her as a character, I think it's interesting how her character is portrayed. She doesn't appear to be the main character and she seems somewhat one-dimensional in the trailer. The story involves the Manson murders but Sharon Tate appears to be only a supporting character, while apparently focusing on the story on the story of "Rick Dalton" and his stunt double.
She had every chance to ask a legitimately insightful question about film, but she chose to ask something stupid. QT's response was perfectly succinct because garbage questions don't deserve thoughtful answers.
Aren't scripts usually written before the roles are cast?
Knowing how Tarantino has responded in the past to questions like that, I think a better and more honest approach would have been to ask Tarantino, "Why does the character of Sharon Tate have such few lines", and ask Robbie, "Why did you take a role that had such few lines?"
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05-22-19, 08:23 PM
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Frankly, Tarantino is notorious for placing high quality actors in limited roles in his films. I wonder if that interviewer’s issue is more with the marketing for the movie, that has placed Robbie in a bigger spotlight than perhaps the movie ends up portraying?
05-22-19, 08:38 PM
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with you brayzie. I just think it's a bit much to act like the question was "stupid" when there's maybe a legitimate point to be made about how, like it or not, the film is exploiting Tate's death and that there's a concern about how the character (real person) is portrayed in that context. I remember when The Sacrament came out, and someone gave Ti West a hard time for exploiting the real events it was (very loosely) based on, and he basically said that he tried to treat the story with respect and that "don't drink the Kool-aid" being in our pop culture is arguably a far more dismissive and disrespectful to the victims of cults than his little movie ever could be.
Maybe it's all "handled well" and the discussion is moot... But I think Robbie gives a fair answer to the question anyway, and I think it's unfortunate, but expected, that QT didn't want to give a thoughtful answer after giving thoughtful answers for the previous 30 minutes.
To be clear... I don't think this is a big deal either way, but it's already "blowing up" into something absurd with the way folks are reacting to it. Before I watched the clip, I said I thought the question was out of place based on QT's filmography. Hearing it, I think the NYT journalist genuinely wanted to know why a film "about" events surrounding Tate's murder would give Tate's extremely famous actress so little to say on screen, but I think it's fair to say that many films about real world victims aren't always about the victims at all.
That's my 2 cents. People need to turn the outrage meter down a few notches but that's now how these news cycles work anymore.
Maybe it's all "handled well" and the discussion is moot... But I think Robbie gives a fair answer to the question anyway, and I think it's unfortunate, but expected, that QT didn't want to give a thoughtful answer after giving thoughtful answers for the previous 30 minutes.
To be clear... I don't think this is a big deal either way, but it's already "blowing up" into something absurd with the way folks are reacting to it. Before I watched the clip, I said I thought the question was out of place based on QT's filmography. Hearing it, I think the NYT journalist genuinely wanted to know why a film "about" events surrounding Tate's murder would give Tate's extremely famous actress so little to say on screen, but I think it's fair to say that many films about real world victims aren't always about the victims at all.
That's my 2 cents. People need to turn the outrage meter down a few notches but that's now how these news cycles work anymore.
05-22-19, 08:40 PM
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Excellent point and reminds me of Scream using Drew Barrymore to sell the flick and people were so goddamn mad at the time.
05-22-19, 09:09 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Why did that chick in Psycho have so few lines?
Honestly, if the Sharon Tate character has few lines and remains ephemeral that is a perfect representation of how she lives in my mind. This wasn’t the murder of Elizabeth Taylor. She was a rising talent who embodied the California girl and the flower child who was in a few movies and lives most strongly in our mind as a tragic victim. If she’s a cypher in this I think it’s probably in keeping with popular perception.
And lets not keep flogging this. It was a weak question from an arts & culture critic.
Honestly, if the Sharon Tate character has few lines and remains ephemeral that is a perfect representation of how she lives in my mind. This wasn’t the murder of Elizabeth Taylor. She was a rising talent who embodied the California girl and the flower child who was in a few movies and lives most strongly in our mind as a tragic victim. If she’s a cypher in this I think it’s probably in keeping with popular perception.
And lets not keep flogging this. It was a weak question from an arts & culture critic.