jjcool

He pointed the gun at them when it "went off" or, more likely, he pulled the trigger.

Noonan

According to him, he did not. All he did was pull back the hammer.

Josh-da-man

From what I understand, a lot of actors/stars get production credits and it's basically just an extra paycheck for them. They might help with the funding or getting the film off of the ground, but they aren't involved in the nuts and bolts production of the film.

Makes me wonder if actors will start pulling back on these kinds of production credits if it turns out they're legally and financially liable for on-set accidents.

majorjoe23

Damn, Alec, is it that hard to just say “I can’t/don’t want to discuss that right now”?

TGM

the only person responsible is the fucking armorer. that stupid asshole should be sued and in prison.

Throwing Copper

Yep. Ain’t a jury or judge in the world that would convict Baldwin of something that wasn’t his responsibility.

Count Dooku

I've never been in his position, but I imagine it would be pretty fucking hard to NOT proclaim your innocence, or proclaim that it was a terrible accident when people are calling you a murderer.

As we all know from every cop show ever made, when someone guilty is accused of a crime, they shut up and hide behind a lawyer. When a person is innocent (or believes they are) they get emotional and won't stop denying their guilt.

majorjoe23

Proclaiming your innocence is one thing, but to be about a step removed from calling the victim’s family money-grubbers isn’t a great look.

Count Dooku

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ed-1235080846/

jjcool

I am aware of that "claim".

rw2516

I can see the production company being liable, but not individual producers by name. The company would be found at fault and whoever's name is on the company papers would be responsible for paying a settlement. Personal assets would be protected. If production company is broke than they're out of luck. If it's a partnership, then personal assets would come into play.

John Galt

And released the hammer, which depending on the gun is the exact same thing as pulling the trigger.

I also really hated this quote: "I would never point a gun at anyone and then pull the trigger, never."

You're in a profession where this is done regularly. I'm not going back through all his movies, but I'm sure more than once he's pulled the trigger on a gun pointed at someone else.

Noonan

So? The qualifier here is; would this lawsuit exist if it was a random actor not in the public eye worth millions? My opinion is that it would not. The lawsuit would correctly be aimed at the businesses involved, not an individual.

Count Dooku

I remember Adam Carolla talking about being instructed that he had to set up a production company for his independent movie, rather than produce it personally in his name, to shield himself financially. Never thought about what that meant until now.

jjcool

Yeah. This keeps coming back to Baldwin pointing a gun at a human being and pulling the trigger/dropping the hammer. The fact that he said the quoted text tells us that he is at least aware of the bare minimum with regards to gun safety, he just chose to not even do that in this instance, and someone died.

jjcool

If the shooter were a random actor not in the public eye worth millions would Halyna Hutchins still be dead? Of course the lawsuit would still exist, and the shooter would be named.

Shannon Nutt

Here's how lawsuits like this work: you sue EVERYONE involved. If you win, you now have the choice of collecting money from ANY of the parties (meaning if they win in court, they can legally collect 100% from Baldwin, even though others may be named in the suit). That's how suits like this work, and that's why you name multiple parties in a lawsuit.

Runaway

How fucked up. The only good thing about the American legal system is, it makes for good TV and movies.

GoldenJCJ

^ I don’t disagree. And like it or not, if you’re looking to be financially compensated (which is the whole point of a civil lawsuit) you’re more likely to actually get paid if you go after someone with deep pockets.

Count Dooku

You know Baldwin is rich . . . the way he hands out the cash on Match Game.

ddrknghtrtns

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...shooting.html/

Count Dooku

Lots of movies listed there. Not a single mention of Baldwin pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger, though.

ddrknghtrtns

whotony

is he pointing the guns at someone?
Doesn't look like it there.

ddrknghtrtns

he is pointing the guns towards the camera with fingers on both triggers.