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Old 02-20-22, 10:22 AM
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I watched Ali Wong's latest Netflix special yesterday. Now there is a standup who would've been good to put in the mix.

Yeah she is good but I couldn't make if more than 20 minutes into her new special. I really liked the fist 2.

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That DEADLINE article says "Justice League" is getting a lot of votes, but claims it is not eligible because director's cuts are not eligible for other Academy Awards. They're going to have a lot of explaining to do to fans if Justice League actually gets the most votes.
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That DEADLINE article says "Justice League" is getting a lot of votes, but claims it is not eligible because director's cuts are not eligible for other Academy Awards. They're going to have a lot of explaining to do to fans if Justice League actually gets the most votes.
I don't know, it sounds like they've already done all the explaining they need to do. Not that that will be enough to satisfy all the Snyder weirdos who will undoubtedly be upset that they didn't win some dumb Twitter poll.
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Old 02-22-22, 04:36 PM
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Several of the 23 categories which were presented live on the air during last year’s 93rd Oscars telecast will not be presented live on the air during the 94th Oscars telecast on March 27, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

In a move that is already causing tension within the leadership of the Academy, but is likely to be well received by the general public, the presentations and acceptance of eight awards — documentary short, film editing, makeup/hairstyling, original score, production design, animated short, live action short and sound — will take place inside the Dolby Theatre an hour before the live telecast commences, will be recorded and will then be edited into the subsequent live broadcast, a variation of a controversial approach that the Academy first adopted and then abandoned in 2018. (The Tony Awards employ a similar model.)

The Academy declined comment.

The move comes less than a year after the lowest-rated Oscars telecast ever provoked considerable consternation within the ranks of the Academy’s longtime broadcasting partner ABC, which owns the exclusive rights to air the ceremony through 2028, and the fees from which largely finance the operations of the Academy.

Most of the general public cares about only the six highest-profile Oscar categories — best picture, best director, best actor, best actress, best supporting actor and best supporting actress — if that. But the Academy has always felt pressure to present all of its competitive Oscars on the air in order to keep the peace within its own board of governors, which includes representatives of the Academy’s 17 branches, most of which have at least one award which honors people from the profession practiced by its members and wants them to be treated the same as actors, directors and producers.

The Academy announced in August 2018 that several awards would be presented off the air at the 91st Oscars, but a large industry backlash caused the organization to walk back the move.

Regina Hall, Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes are set to host the 94th Oscars ceremony.

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Updated: Here is the letter that the Academy just sent to its members…

Dear Fellow Academy Members,

We’re excited to present a 94th Oscars broadcast that both honors the year’s achievements in motion pictures and provides boundless entertainment for our global audience of movie lovers. After carefully listening to feedback and suggestions from our film community, our network partner, and all those who love the Oscars, it was evident we needed to make some decisions about the broadcast that are in the best interest of the future of our show and our organization.

When deciding how to produce the Oscars, we recognize it’s a live event television show and we must prioritize the television audience to increase viewer engagement and keep the show vital, kinetic, and relevant. This has been an important focus of discussion for quite some time. We do this while also remembering the importance of having our nominees relish a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

In order to provide more time and opportunity for audience entertainment and engagement throughcomedy, musical numbers, film clip packages and movie tributes, a change in the show’s production will take place. This year’s show producers and Academy leadership with oversight of the Oscars have made the decision, with endorsement from the officers and the Awards Committee, that every awards category must be featured on the television broadcast, though eight awards will initially be presented in the Dolby Theatre in the hour before the live broadcast begins.

They will not be presented in the pre-show nor on the red carpet, as some have speculated. Instead, the in-person ceremony at the Dolby Theatre will begin one hour earlier to present eight awards categories before the live telecast starts. Those presentations will then be edited by our creative and production teams and will be folded seamlessly into the live televised show.

To be clear, all the nominees in ALL awards categories will be identified on air and ALL winners’ acceptance speeches will be featured on the live broadcast. Every awarded filmmaker and artist in every category will still have the celebratory ‘Oscar moment’ they deserve on the stage of the Dolby, facing an enrapt audience.

For the audience at home, the show’s flow does not change, though it will become tighter and more electric with this new cadence, and the live broadcast should end – yes, with the Best Picture category – at the three-hour mark.

This year, those categories presented in the evening’s first hour and seen later in the live broadcast are, alphabetically: Documentary (Short Subject), Film Editing, Makeup and Hairstyling, Music (Original Score), Production Design, Short Film (Animated), Short Film (Live Action), and Sound.

The categories to be presented live on this year’s broadcast are, alphabetically: Actor in a Leading Role, Actor in a Supporting Role, Actress in a Leading Role, Actress in a Supporting Role, Animated Feature Film, Best Picture, Cinematography, Costume Design, Directing, Documentary (Feature), International Feature Film, Music (Original Song), Visual Effects, Writing (Adapted Screenplay), and Writing (Original Screenplay).

We realize these kinds of changes can prompt concern about equity, and we ask you to understand our goal has been to find a balance in which nominees, winners, members, and viewing audience all have a rewarding show experience. Moving forward we will assess this change and will continue to look for additional ways to make our show more entertaining and more thrilling for all involved, inside the Dolby Theatre and watching from home.

Every Academy branch and award category is indispensable to the success of a film and vital to this industry. Both our challenge and our goal is to create an exciting, streamlined Oscars show without sacrificing the long-held fundamentals of our organization. We appreciate your understanding and will be grateful for your unwavering support.

Sincerely,

David Rubin

Academy President
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I've always been okay with the shorts being awarded off-air, but any Feature film awards should be on-camera.
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But is the show still going to be 3+ hours long? Because if it is, then I'm not sure what they hope to accomplish.
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But is the show still going to be 3+ hours long? Because if it is, then I'm not sure what they hope to accomplish.
That’s the most frustrating part with the Academy awards. They’ll eliminate airing certain categories but then fill in the time with silly (painfully unfunny) skits, dopey audience participation nonsense, etc. I can recall a ton of wasted time on stupid shit like that on every year’s ceremony.

I’d much rather see them present awards for Best Editing and Best Score instead taking time to run across the street and drag theater-goers back to the ceremony, taking selfies with the nominees, or seeing Jimmy Kimmel giving shit to Matt Damon.
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Old 02-22-22, 07:28 PM
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They keep cutting stuff for the live show so they have more time for filler montages and scripted banter between presenters. Original song is the biggest time filler grinding the show to a halt turning the show into the Grammys/Tonys just to showcase an already overexposed singer. I'd rather hear Original Score which is way more integral to a movie but of course that gets shafted. The show is just one big race to the bottom.
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BTW : Each host will take over hosting duties for an hour, with Schumer going first.
Who will host the overtime fourth hour?
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They will still air, just not live.
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Insult added to injury : Only one Sound Oscar now and it's not given live on air.

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They will still air, just not live.
They will show ten seconds of the winner saying "Thank you so much". Big whoop.
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Let’s do math - I’m a live TV show producer so this is my wheelhouse.

Three hour show - that’s 180 minutes.

There should be about 18 minutes of commercials per hour, so that takes us down to 126.

There are 24 Oscar categories - 5 minutes per category gets you to 120, so you get four minutes for an opening bit and 2 minutes to wrap the show.

Done. Simple. Nothing needs to be cut.

Take one of the commercial breaks out entirely and run the In Memoriam segment, solving the applause nonsense too since it wouldn’t be live.

That’s how I’d do it anyway.


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I mean that's terrible. You spent as much time on Documentary Short and Live Action Short as you did on Best Actor and Best Picture. And I still want to see Billie Eilish and Beyonce perform, which you just cut.

Bottom line is I don't mind going 3:30 as long as you're giving good content. Jimmy Kimmel going into a movie theater isn't good content. Neither is a dozen montages of famous movie lines. And neither is bringing up the cast of Amazon's Cinderella to the delight of Twitter trolls everywhere. But In Memorium is. And so is performing all the Best Original Songs. And so is showing all the Feature Filn awards on the telecast.

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I mean that's terrible. You spent as much time on Documentary Short and Live Action Short as you did on Best Actor and Best Picture. And I still want to see Billie Eilish and Beyonce perform, which you just cut.
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They didn't cut Best Song.

Except for Editing, I'm fine with all those cuts. At least they were honest about their priority being the TV viewers and not the movie people attending the awards.
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They didn't cut Best Song.

Except for Editing, I'm fine with all those cuts. At least they were honest about their priority being the TV viewers and not the movie people attending the awards.
Decker was commenting on Draven's proposed format, not the actual show.
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I mean that's terrible. You spent as much time on Documentary Short and Live Action Short as you did on Best Actor and Best Picture. And I still want to see Billie Eilish and Beyonce perform, which you just cut.
You can spend less time on one category to give more to another. I’m just proposing a simple way to lay out the show to fit the timeframe. Overall, cut the fluff and get to the awards. You don’t even need hosts - just have the previous presenter bring up the next one.

And the musical performances can absolutely be cut. That’s a huge time suck right there. There’s a reason most talk shows put musical performances toward the end of their shows - the audience tends to turn the channel at that point anyway.
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They tried cutting the song performances and it didn't go well. In fact they tried it last year. The five songs break up the show and add some entertainment factor to a show that is otherwise just award after award. It's the main thing, besides prestige that separates the Oscar telecast from the Sags.
And if they had to move some awards, at least telecast that hour no-frills presentation live instead of the shitty red carpet preshow they always do.
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They tried cutting the song performances and it didn't go well. In fact they tried it last year. The five songs break up the show and add some entertainment factor to a show that is otherwise just award after award. It's the main thing, besides prestige that separates the Oscar telecast from the Sags.
And if they had to move some awards, at least telecast that hour no-frills presentation live instead of the shitty red carpet preshow they always do.
It comes down to "what is the point of the show?" Is it to honor this year's films and the people who made them? Or is it to provide an entertaining broadcast for the majority of the home audience? Those two things will never be the same.

If they want to increase ratings and combat the yearly joke that the show is too long, they should just do the major awards most people care about, pay a top-tier personality a shitload of money to host it, and do stunts like the best song winner is the only one who gets to perform, and they don't find out until the award is given.

If they want to honor all of the categories and not take things like "is this movie popular?" into consideration when picking Best Picture nominees, they need to resign themselves to a 4 hour show that most people aren't going to watch.
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Why don't they do a 1-hour show with just the "Big 5-7" that John and Jane Q. Public care about and In Memorium and then another show that has all the rest of the awards? And expand it to give stunt performers some G.D. credit.
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The outrage I see on social media about this is insane and so overblown, IMO. The way some of the trades are communicating the info makes it sound like they will be entirely cut from the ceremony, which isn't the case. So people are just reacting to the headline, but not reading the details.

So they will edit out the 60 seconds it takes for the live-action short winners to walk from the shitty seats they get stuck with to the stage. I do find it funny they will be relying on editors to have these segments "folded seamlessly into the live televised show", but Editing is one the categories that won't be live.

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Why don't they do a 1-hour show with just the "Big 5-7" that John and Jane Q. Public care about and In Memorium and then another show that has all the rest of the awards? And expand it to give stunt performers some G.D. credit.
Sounds perfect to me!
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Why don't they do a 1-hour show with just the "Big 5-7" that John and Jane Q. Public care about and In Memorium and then another show that has all the rest of the awards? And expand it to give stunt performers some G.D. credit.

2 hrs would be enough like the SAG Awards

At least the Golden Globes were entertaining and there were not a lot of minutes wasted on technical small awards and it moved at a fast pace.


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