Alias 12/07/03
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Good grief, this episode is totally off the hook:
Will and Sydney reunite, and the reunion is good, to say the least.
Will has got some super agent training, it would seem. And he gets to skewer Allison, but I think she'll probably survive.
I'll miss the dream doctor.
Sark is a real SOB, isn't he?
I keep thinking Sloane is ordering the hit on Lindsey. (Hey, I was right)
Will and Sydney reunite, and the reunion is good, to say the least.
Will has got some super agent training, it would seem. And he gets to skewer Allison, but I think she'll probably survive.
I'll miss the dream doctor.
Sark is a real SOB, isn't he?
I keep thinking Sloane is ordering the hit on Lindsey. (Hey, I was right)
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Originally posted by Colonel Mustard
Why didn't Syd kill Sark when he was down? That's the problem, they always leave the bad guys wandering around for later evil doing
Great episode, though.
Why didn't Syd kill Sark when he was down? That's the problem, they always leave the bad guys wandering around for later evil doing
Great episode, though.
I wasn't happy about the Syd/Will tryst, until those lines at the end kind of saved it for me.
Lindsey was a complete idiot for not thinking Sloane was going to take him out. Only Sydney can threaten his life and get away with it.
at the WISCONSIN title card, I found that really funny for some reason.
And for putting The Donnas on the soundtrack.
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the only problem that i have is that i missed last week's ep. i have only missed two in the history of the show and both times, when i come back i feel like i have missed a month.
however, it was a great episode. absolutelyl fantastic to see will again. i was never one in favor or will/sydney but after tonight i could go for it. will has come a long way since the beginning.
jack slugging lindsey was great.
however, it was a great episode. absolutelyl fantastic to see will again. i was never one in favor or will/sydney but after tonight i could go for it. will has come a long way since the beginning.
jack slugging lindsey was great.
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Originally posted by Meatpants
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at the WISCONSIN title card, I found that really funny for some reason.
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at the WISCONSIN title card, I found that really funny for some reason.
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Think about it. How did the bad dude know where the meeting with what's his name (the guy shot with the dart) was going to be? If Sydney didn't tell then that leaves Will.
He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
This not killing people when they have the chance? I know it is a TV show .. but that is getting pretty old ...
Think about it. How did the bad dude know where the meeting with what's his name (the guy shot with the dart) was going to be? If Sydney didn't tell then that leaves Will.
He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
This not killing people when they have the chance? I know it is a TV show .. but that is getting pretty old ...
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He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
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He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
I just don't buy how easily Will killed Francie.
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Originally posted by ctyankee
He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
He also slips up at the end and says something he wasn't suppose to know but Sydney isn't thinking it through properly. So this leaves us with Will having been turned, brainwashed, or double (the last getting oh, so old).
unless you're talking about something else..
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I was also wondering why Syd didn't eliminate Sark, but I'm happy she didn't because he is the most ruthless, wicked villain next to Sloane. Love those two - totally called Sloane killing Lindsey. I would have done a little more damage to FakeFrancie to ensure her death - she'll be back sooner or later -> that bitch just won't die.
I was also wondering where Will learned to fight all of a sudden, but the guy has had two years in Wisconsin to learn how to defend himself - if I knew some *******s were out to kill me, I would do the same thing.
SpyDaddy has yet to disappoint this season. Victor Garber is amazing.
I like how they ended the show w/ Will and Syd - that was a nice touch.
Syd needs a gorgeous female friend on the show. When Eliza Dushku's Fox show gets cancelled, they should bring her on the show as an old friend or a long-lost sister. It would be a welcome touch.
I was also wondering where Will learned to fight all of a sudden, but the guy has had two years in Wisconsin to learn how to defend himself - if I knew some *******s were out to kill me, I would do the same thing.
SpyDaddy has yet to disappoint this season. Victor Garber is amazing.
I like how they ended the show w/ Will and Syd - that was a nice touch.
Syd needs a gorgeous female friend on the show. When Eliza Dushku's Fox show gets cancelled, they should bring her on the show as an old friend or a long-lost sister. It would be a welcome touch.
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Sloane killing Linsey was *extremely* obvious at the point where Sloane met the shooter on a park bench. Sloane gave him the picture or file or whatever and said "here's your target". I noticed right away that they didn't show a picture of the target and that no pronouns were used. It was pretty self-evident then, and I totally called Lindsey getting capped as well.
Only odd thing I noticed in this one is why the hell was Will at the offices at the end? First off, if she was maintaining the premise that she was being held by the Covenant, then she'd have no reason or capability to contact Will during that captivity. So it'd be a pretty large mistake for her to bring him in, no? Bringing him in totally blows her cover on that one.
And I also wondered why Sark knew where to be.. The meeting was at "the same place as before". The Russian guy obviously had no reason to tell anybody about it, and Will is the only other person who knew. The only other answer, which is entirely possible I suppose, is that they found Will in Wisconsin and simply followed him and Sydney to the meeting.
Only odd thing I noticed in this one is why the hell was Will at the offices at the end? First off, if she was maintaining the premise that she was being held by the Covenant, then she'd have no reason or capability to contact Will during that captivity. So it'd be a pretty large mistake for her to bring him in, no? Bringing him in totally blows her cover on that one.
And I also wondered why Sark knew where to be.. The meeting was at "the same place as before". The Russian guy obviously had no reason to tell anybody about it, and Will is the only other person who knew. The only other answer, which is entirely possible I suppose, is that they found Will in Wisconsin and simply followed him and Sydney to the meeting.
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Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
I just don't buy how easily Will killed Francie.
I just don't buy how easily Will killed Francie.
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You guys took away all my comments...why didn't Sydney kill Sark when she had the chance? Wisconsin... And I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Allison back...don't these people check and make sure she's dead?
I also liked how they hacked into the hotel computer system in about 5 seconds. Again,
I also liked how they hacked into the hotel computer system in about 5 seconds. Again,
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I agree with pretty much everything that was said.
I thought Lazarey would make a bigger entrance or play a bigger role then he has.
I think this was the last new episode until the new year
I thought Lazarey would make a bigger entrance or play a bigger role then he has.
I think this was the last new episode until the new year
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The only question I have about tonight's episode is why was Sark driving a VW Vanagan when he showed up at the meeting. I was laughing at his wheels for the rest of the show.
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I have nothing useful to say here. I just didn't want to miss out on all the spoiler fun!
At least Will can die a happy man now.
Kudos to Will! Screw Vaughn - he's too much of a downer anyhow.
At least Will can die a happy man now.
Kudos to Will! Screw Vaughn - he's too much of a downer anyhow.
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I am such a fanboy for this show.
- I loved Jack punching Lindsey, and even more so after he gave his reason -- "We were going to end up [in custody] no matter what I said, so I wasn't about to pass up the opportunity."
- RIP Dr. Cronenberg... no more memory therapy for Syd, I guess. And RIP Lindsey... proud to say that I called his death from the moment he threatened to burn Sloane if he messed up the assassination. But I don't think that one was too hard. Geez, RIP Lazarey and RIP AlliFrancie, too (although I don't doubt that she'll return)... this episode was a freaking bloodbath.
- The return of Will! And he's not just Will, but he's ActionWill with new Knife-Stabbing action! It sucks that he's going away again, but at least Syd knows where to find him now. And his comment regarding SpySex... "Yeah, I've been waiting to do that for like eight years!" was great.
- How did Sark find Syd, Will, and Lazarey? Easy. Dr. Brezzel told Sark that Will is in Witness Protection. Sark goes back to the Covenent Computer Geek Shack and says, "Hey, hack into US Federal Witness Protection and find me Tippin." Done and done.
- How did Will kick Allison's ass? Not as easy, but still explainable. Will's been doing construction work for the past two years. Add that to whatever physical training regimen that he's on outside of his job, and I can understand him being in good shape, or at least better shape than when he drove a desk as a reporter in his previous life. Oh, and add to that any sort of self-defense training he received as part of the WPP... not sure if that actually goes on as part of the program, but it's possible.
- Why was Will at CIA HQ at the end of the show? Okay, that one I don't get. Maybe JJ was trying to slip one past us there for a cute moment.
- How did Syd get the Rambaldi device? Was the whole presto-changeo thing with Sloane a double (triple?) cross so that Sloane never got the artifact in the first place? I'll have to rewatch the show to figure that one out, I think. And I thought that this was the big mamma-jamma Rambaldi device, right? The one that all the other ones came together to make? So what happened with that "PEACE" message that Sloane said came out when he put all the pieces together?
- I understand why I like Will so much... he's the character that's supposed to represent us. He's the regular guy that was dropped into this crazy spy world that he probably didn't think existed except on movies and TV, and now he's totally wrapped up in it.
Okay, I'm done... at least in this post.
- I loved Jack punching Lindsey, and even more so after he gave his reason -- "We were going to end up [in custody] no matter what I said, so I wasn't about to pass up the opportunity."
- RIP Dr. Cronenberg... no more memory therapy for Syd, I guess. And RIP Lindsey... proud to say that I called his death from the moment he threatened to burn Sloane if he messed up the assassination. But I don't think that one was too hard. Geez, RIP Lazarey and RIP AlliFrancie, too (although I don't doubt that she'll return)... this episode was a freaking bloodbath.
- The return of Will! And he's not just Will, but he's ActionWill with new Knife-Stabbing action! It sucks that he's going away again, but at least Syd knows where to find him now. And his comment regarding SpySex... "Yeah, I've been waiting to do that for like eight years!" was great.
- How did Sark find Syd, Will, and Lazarey? Easy. Dr. Brezzel told Sark that Will is in Witness Protection. Sark goes back to the Covenent Computer Geek Shack and says, "Hey, hack into US Federal Witness Protection and find me Tippin." Done and done.
- How did Will kick Allison's ass? Not as easy, but still explainable. Will's been doing construction work for the past two years. Add that to whatever physical training regimen that he's on outside of his job, and I can understand him being in good shape, or at least better shape than when he drove a desk as a reporter in his previous life. Oh, and add to that any sort of self-defense training he received as part of the WPP... not sure if that actually goes on as part of the program, but it's possible.
- Why was Will at CIA HQ at the end of the show? Okay, that one I don't get. Maybe JJ was trying to slip one past us there for a cute moment.
- How did Syd get the Rambaldi device? Was the whole presto-changeo thing with Sloane a double (triple?) cross so that Sloane never got the artifact in the first place? I'll have to rewatch the show to figure that one out, I think. And I thought that this was the big mamma-jamma Rambaldi device, right? The one that all the other ones came together to make? So what happened with that "PEACE" message that Sloane said came out when he put all the pieces together?
- I understand why I like Will so much... he's the character that's supposed to represent us. He's the regular guy that was dropped into this crazy spy world that he probably didn't think existed except on movies and TV, and now he's totally wrapped up in it.
Okay, I'm done... at least in this post.
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I'm glad other people thought the Wisconsin thing was strange as well (being my home state and all).
Normally, they use city names, right? I think they're underselling their audience. More people are going to know where Milwaukee or Green Bay are than most of the foreign locals they use.
Normally, they use city names, right? I think they're underselling their audience. More people are going to know where Milwaukee or Green Bay are than most of the foreign locals they use.
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Originally posted by Otto
Only odd thing I noticed in this one is why the hell was Will at the offices at the end? First off, if she was maintaining the premise that she was being held by the Covenant, then she'd have no reason or capability to contact Will during that captivity. So it'd be a pretty large mistake for her to bring him in, no? Bringing him in totally blows her cover on that one.
Only odd thing I noticed in this one is why the hell was Will at the offices at the end? First off, if she was maintaining the premise that she was being held by the Covenant, then she'd have no reason or capability to contact Will during that captivity. So it'd be a pretty large mistake for her to bring him in, no? Bringing him in totally blows her cover on that one.
Love this episode. The Wisconsin title card cracked me up. We've done Paris, Rome, Wisconsin. Loved it.
The return of Will! I am one of the few people who liked his character from the beginning and it was nice to see him back. Him stabbing Allison didn't seem out of character to me. If I had been through all that crap, the first two things I would have done would be to sign up for some kickboxing and weapons training. My one problem with the situation was this: if Will didn't even know Allison was alive, why the hell was he in witness protection? You think the CIA would have shared this little tidbit of info with him otherwise why bother? Allison was working for Sloan, not the Covenant when everything went down. Why does the Covenant even care about Will at this point? Allison will probably be a little pissed at having a knife in her gut (yea I do think she's still breathing) but turnabout his fair play.
One random question though: when Sark was about to light his dad up (literally) did Lazarey give Sark a first name? For some reason I thought I heard him say Julian but I was tripping on the lighter so I might have misheard something.
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nother great episode. last week, did syd really beat the crap out of Lauren, or was that all in that dream thing they mentioned at the begining of the episode.
and who did the first rock song when they went into the german hotel.
and who did the first rock song when they went into the german hotel.
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Originally posted by lisadoris
One random question though: when Sark was about to light his dad up (literally) did Lazarey give Sark a first name? For some reason I thought I heard him say Julian but I was tripping on the lighter so I might have misheard something.
One random question though: when Sark was about to light his dad up (literally) did Lazarey give Sark a first name? For some reason I thought I heard him say Julian but I was tripping on the lighter so I might have misheard something.
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Superb episode other than crybaby Syd came back...again.
I too didn't like how they left Sark just lying there to recover but he is one of my favorites. I also didn't like how Sark just streamrolled in like a marching band in his VW instead of being incognito. Oh well. Good episode overall though.
I too didn't like how they left Sark just lying there to recover but he is one of my favorites. I also didn't like how Sark just streamrolled in like a marching band in his VW instead of being incognito. Oh well. Good episode overall though.