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Old 05-01-07, 05:50 PM
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Mr. Gordon, it "hurt" to watch your show this season.
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The problem is that in previous seasons Jack has battled Robocop, The Mummy, Warlock, Jigsaw, and Dennis Everfucking Hopper.

This year it's Babe the Pig's Dad and Silver Spoons.
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Mirna might be a match for him!!!
This really might work. She already has that B-movie terrorist accent...
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Maybe they could fill in on Bauer's captivity in China - and if they want to increase the ratings, get Eli Roth to write and direct the torture sequences.
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Changing the location and the large-scale plots into something less grand would suffice for me, but hey, a complete overhaul would we welcome.
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Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Heh, going to be tough to do without any spoilers. But here goes. In all, I think the biggest weakness this season is the story, the character and the dialogue. (In other words, about everything.) Much of the dialogue is just flat or explanatory--stuff you already know. But story-wise, there are a LOT of leaps--you know, 24 always has leaps, things that make you go "yeah, right!", but they're so fun, you don't care. This time around, people seem to just do stupid stuff to make the plot twist. And a LOT of the plot has been borrowed from previous seasons. A LOT of things happen this time too that would NEVER EVER happen consecutively in a 24-hour period. In the past, it was easy to go with, but the stuff they have happen this time is just too much.

That said, I don't think it's unforgivable, but it is the weakest season they've had. They do address the things you mentioned, but not nearly as well as they could have. Finally, I think at least one main character, the president, was poorly cast this season. I won't spoil it for you, so that's all I'll say about that. I'd say rent it when it comes out at Blockbuster, it might be better back-to-back, but I'm almost sure you won't like it as much as previous seasons. Still, I'd watch it just to keep up with what's going on in the 24 universe, if you've got free time, in hopes that the next day will be better.

PS I say this as an uber-24 fan--I've always loved this show and always bought the box sets. But I'll be skipping this season's purchase. Yes, it's that unsatisfactory.
Alright, thanks alot my fellow Texan!

All that is what I was afraid of, I sensed alot of it last season but I hate that far out shit. Its kinda why I hated watching Prison Break for the first time and wont buy into that show. Its a shame 24 is heading down that path. I HATED all the back stabbing and a spy or turncoat that is just planted for story.

Too bad Im a completist when owning DVDs and CDs, so I will have to buy this season. But I have no problem getting it cheap and will not buy until lower than $20

Id prefer a flashback season as well. I was hoping the whole season woulda have been Jack escaping Japan, going through jungles or whatever and trying to get picked up ala Rambo. It woulda been cheesy but better than seeing same ole crap ala Chloe
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Like someone said earlier (and I myself have said a few times) there is nothing wrong with the 24 hours in one season format, the problem is the plot points we have been stuck with for 6 years.

I don't ever want to see the inside of CTU again. I don't want to see Chloe behind a desk on the phone. I sure as hell don't want a terrorist anywhere, or the president.

A small crisis is still a crisis. Make us give a damn about what happens and it will be great. I couldn't care less about that nuke going off this year. Nameless, faceless people died. So what?

And lets get that hot barfly back from Season 5 that Jack was living with. I care about her.
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Originally Posted by cornflakeguy
And lets get that hot barfly back from Season 5 that Jack was living with. I care about her.
If you're referring to Connie Britton, she's moved on to much better things in Friday Night Lights(please God let that be picked up for a 2nd season). She was Emmy-worthy on that show this year.

As for 24, I'm curious to know if that "final shocker" that they were hyping up in the preview for next week's episode is what I think it is. If so, it'll certainly reinvigorate the series going into its 7th season.
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Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Heh, going to be tough to do without any spoilers. But here goes. In all, I think the biggest weakness this season is the story, the character and the dialogue. (In other words, about everything.) Much of the dialogue is just flat or explanatory--stuff you already know. But story-wise, there are a LOT of leaps--you know, 24 always has leaps, things that make you go "yeah, right!", but they're so fun, you don't care. This time around, people seem to just do stupid stuff to make the plot twist. And a LOT of the plot has been borrowed from previous seasons. A LOT of things happen this time too that would NEVER EVER happen consecutively in a 24-hour period. In the past, it was easy to go with, but the stuff they have happen this time is just too much.

That said, I don't think it's unforgivable, but it is the weakest season they've had. They do address the things you mentioned, but not nearly as well as they could have. Finally, I think at least one main character, the president, was poorly cast this season. I won't spoil it for you, so that's all I'll say about that. I'd say rent it when it comes out at Blockbuster, it might be better back-to-back, but I'm almost sure you won't like it as much as previous seasons. Still, I'd watch it just to keep up with what's going on in the 24 universe, if you've got free time, in hopes that the next day will be better.

PS I say this as an uber-24 fan--I've always loved this show and always bought the box sets. But I'll be skipping this season's purchase. Yes, it's that unsatisfactory.
To sum it all up. Take everything about 24 that you like, Jack Bauer, interesting characters, original plots, surprises, political intrigue, etc.... and throw it all out the window. Then relegate the star of the show to a mere 10 minutes an episode.
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Go back to a small-time attack, ala season one. Terrorist attacks are stale and boring now.
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5 words. More Jack and more aliens.
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Originally Posted by Doughboy

As for 24, I'm curious to know if that "final shocker" that they were hyping up in the preview for next week's episode is what I think it is. If so, it'll certainly reinvigorate the series going into its 7th season.

Everyone at CTU dies, Make it a Jack centric season next year. Maybe only Chloe lives, and she has to be all new commando agent or something.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
A little over 10 million viewers right now. Not horrible by any means, but still not up to par with Season 4 and 5's ratings.
Actually, take a look at this PLUMMET (well-deserved, sadly):

Nielsens ratings for April 23 — April 29
Broadcast: Top 20
Rank Season average Show name Network Viewers in millions

1. 1 American Idol (Wed) Fox 26.9

2. 2 American Idol (Tues) Fox 26.6

3. 6 House Fox 20.8

* N/A 24 Fox 5.1
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They must go small. Jack on a plane, Jack on a boat. We need to have some investment in the character development.
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Originally Posted by uteotw
Actually, take a look at this PLUMMET (well-deserved, sadly):

Nielsens ratings for April 23 — April 29
Broadcast: Top 20
Rank Season average Show name Network Viewers in millions

1. 1 American Idol (Wed) Fox 26.9

2. 2 American Idol (Tues) Fox 26.6

3. 6 House Fox 20.8

* N/A 24 Fox 5.1
This is not surprising though. Considering how lame this season was, I'm sure most people jumped ship once the nuke threat was resolved. I mean who wants to see the ending centered around the still malnourished and now seemingly insane Kim Raver?
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Everyone at CTU dies, Make it a Jack centric season next year. Maybe only Chloe lives, and she has to be all new commando agent or something.
I like this idea.
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24 Spoiler from TV GUIDE:

Spoiler:
Spoiler alert) Rumors are swirling that an unlikely romance — and an even unlikelier pregnancy — will have tongues wagging at CTU before the day is over.



About the future of 24, from Keifer Sutherland (via TV GUIDE)

Well, for starters, the show is in desperate need of a facelift — and Kiefer Sutherland knows it. "I'd like to see a huge departure [next season]," he says in the new, finale-themed issue of TV Guide. "We go back and forth from the White House and CTU to the field, but I'd like to see that change up. I'd like to see Jack work in the outside world."
Looks like keifer is listening as well
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More advice: no nukes and tame the torture. Both were narrative crutches this year.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Spoiler:
Spoiler alert) Rumors are swirling that an unlikely romance — and an even unlikelier pregnancy — will have tongues wagging at CTU before the day is over.

Speculation related to spoiler
Spoiler:
so in keeping with the trend of rehashing every season, audrey will be pregnant with Jack's super baby who managed to survive in the womb for 2 years. and then audrey will die. Can we consider Audrey to have amnesia now too?
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Speculation related to spoiler
Spoiler:
so in keeping with the trend of rehashing every season, audrey will be pregnant with Jack's super baby who managed to survive in the womb for 2 years. and then audrey will die. Can we consider Audrey to have amnesia now too?
Spoiler:
unlikely romance? Jack and Chloe hah
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Originally Posted by kaze0
Speculation related to spoiler
Spoiler:
so in keeping with the trend of rehashing every season, audrey will be pregnant with Jack's super baby who managed to survive in the womb for 2 years. and then audrey will die. Can we consider Audrey to have amnesia now too?
Spoiler:
Audrey will be pregnant with her daddy's baby...
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
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unlikely romance? Jack and Chloe hah
Spoiler:
So Chloe broke into the Chinese prison where Jack was being held, slept with him, found out she's pregnant, and now is going to spring the news on him 3 minutes after the whole Russia/China/component thing is over? Wow. I think that would be enough to actually get me to stop watching the show.

My theory, if the pregnancy storyline happens, is Nadia is pregnant with a little Billy Buchanan Jr. Think about it, his wife's across the country in D.C., he's working with a hottie about half his age. It's bound to happen.

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My idea is to have someone poison Jack and he has 24 hours to find the cure and/or who did it.
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in regards to the spoilers:

Spoiler:
unlikely romance? Let it be known I said it first... Milo & Morris
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Talking about the spoilers above

Spoiler:
I believe Phillp Bauer will be revealed as Josh's Dad. She raped Marilyn 14-16 years ago. Now of course this could be wrong and the real connection is between Nadia and Chloe!


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