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Old 03-21-08, 07:10 PM
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This show really made the BSB look bad. Idiotic demands. Sounds so L.A. with the stupid wheat grass juice. Trace was too funny dealing with them.

Trump ignored the recommendations of his esteemed collegues (sp) and chose asshat Piers anyway. What was the point then? Makes for better TV but still.

I have to choose Trace by a mile. Good heart, smart, down to earth. No one wants to give their money to a cold heartless guy like Piers. He simply used others (Trace or sleeping boy) to get the most money.

Fergie is so old news and a Brit. Who really cares? Now, if it was the OTHER Fergie....
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Another funny part of the episode: Donald Trump calling Jim Kramer a financial genius roughly one week after he emphatically advised a caller to his TV show that Bear Sterns would be a spectacularly good investment.
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Trace dealing with BSB was LOL funny stuff.

It looked like Lennox's head was going to explode from all of the questioning.
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
Trump ignored the recommendations of his esteemed collegues (sp) and chose asshat Piers anyway. What was the point then? Makes for better TV but still.
At least Trump was upfront about his rationale for keeping Piers, and openly said that both interviewers rejected Piers. Piers seemed to be genuinely surprised that Trump wasn't 200% in love with his "take no prisoners, show no mercy, hail to ruthlessness, hail to arrogance" operating philosophy.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
International Superstar Erin Burnett.
Definitely hot but dumb as a rock in financial.
Old 03-22-08, 10:06 PM
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If Stephen Baldwin can't get his brother Alec, star of a top-rated NBC sitcom that films in New York City, to appear on the New York-based charity event for the season finale of NBC's Celebrity Apprentice, he's even more pathetic than I thought. He should have been able to get Alec, Tina Fey, and Tracy Morgan -- let alone anyone else.
I thought he made it quite apparent at the end that he was not pulling for Piers to win to the point of sabotage.
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Originally Posted by Jack Straw
I thought he made it quite apparent at the end that he was not pulling for Piers to win to the point of sabotage.
That's how it sounded to me too. Why would he help this guy anyway? I can't blame him. Piers should have known better.
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Originally Posted by Jack Straw
I thought he made it quite apparent at the end that he was not pulling for Piers to win to the point of sabotage.
That's the defense mechanism he's using to be sure, but he's already proved that when he wants to win, he can't get any celebrities either.

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Beyond his brothers Alec and Billy, I don't remember if Stephen got any more celebrities for the show.
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It's over. The winner is:

Spoiler:
Piers
Old 03-27-08, 10:20 PM
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Piers killed it. Plain and simple. I don't know why his character was always in question. Like he said hes there to make money, not be popular. And you know he wanted to say his charity was better, and Trace's daughter should just stay away from peanut butter

Omarosa pwned herself.

Good season, I enjoyed it.
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I have to say I'm somewhat surprised with the winner. Not that Piers didn't deserve it; he absolutely did, but I had just figured that they might make Trace the winner b/c it's a charity show, and he's such a nice guy.

To my mind given the parameters of the show there is no question Piers was the appropriate winner.

If I was the BSB, I would be pissed. They do a charity concert and get poked fun at the entire night. Also, while I'm not the world's biggest expert on the BSB aren't there supposed to be five of them? Where was the tall dude?
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Originally Posted by stingermck
I don't know why his character was always in question.
Vamping. Now we know Trump was just killing time with all the analysis of Piers' interpersonal skills. (He even insulted the boss' daughter!)

I thought Trace had a real chance, in spite of the money mismatch, due to the way the challenge was set up with 3 parts. But in the end, the money compensated for the negatives (fewer tickets sold, skimpy food). And Piers' choice of charity, and the soldiers, and the flag, those didn't hurt at all.

I predict that next "Celebrity Apprentice" (if there is one) will be designed to be more Rolodex-neutral.
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I was pro-Piers the entire season but I was really hoping that Trump would pony up 250k or so for Trace's charity as well. I'm assuming his charity got something...right?
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I never understood the Rolodex criticism. It's like criticizing Trace for being born tall and handsome and likable. Every contestant enters the game with his own set of skills, contacts, and talents.

Lots of embarrassing moments tonight. The entire "live" production was awkward and very poorly directed. Omarosa's WWE-style entrance was ridiculous, giving her the prime central seat and final billing when she did nothing to help her charity. The over-the-top pimping of Kodak. Even Trace made a jackass of himself, trumpeting his service work for the USO a little too much at the end.

Decent season overall.

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Old 03-28-08, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
Lots of embarrassing moments tonight. The entire "live" production was awkward and very poorly directed. Omarosa's WWE-style entrance was ridiculous, giving her the prime central seat and final billing when she did nothing to help her charity. The over-the-top pimping of Kodak. Even Trace made a jackass of himself, trumpeting his service work for the USO a little too much at the end.

Decent season overall.

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Agreed.
The live production was just cheesy. The whole Omarosa thing was just plain stupid. I mean come on, she made herself look like a fool on national TV with her entrance, her constant personal attacks on Piers got real tired, IMO I think she's a fucking bitch and I hate her. I hope I never see her again on The Apprentice.

The Kodak thing was dumb.

And I have to agree with Trump, Piers straight up KILLED this competition. KILLED IT. KILLED IT. KILLED IT. He brought in grips of cash, and absolutely dominated, and in the end, it's all about the numbers baby. Sure he isn't a likable guy in the eyes of America, but he gets shit done! Period. You can't deny that. It's alllll about the money. Everybody likes a good guy in Trace. But you know what, nice guys finish last. Piers was there to do a job, and he fucking dominated, my hat goes off to him. Excellent, excellent job!

Excellent season, terrible finale production.

Looking foreword to more Apprentice.....and more Ivanka Trump

Anybody catch whatever her name is Playboy model Tiffany Fallon all knocked up, LOL Trump didn't even acknowledge her pure comedy
Old 03-28-08, 03:43 AM
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Omarosa made her self look even more worse.....I didn't think that was even possible, but yeah she's a fucked up bitch.
Piers deserved the win, both charities were well worth while.
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Piers deserved the win, no question about it. I actually like the guy as he is a straight shooter. Congrats to him.

I have to say that I was pulling hard for Trace though as I can relate to his charity all too well. My son has severe food allergies. Among the 25 or so foods he can't have are milk, eggs, nuts, and pineapple. He gets a severe rash if he comes in contact with any of these foods and if he drinks any amount of milk, he can pretty much die as his throat would close up. We have had to use the epi-pen on him twice and brought him to the hospital about 5 times. To say it is scary is a severe understatement. So although Trace didn't win, he brought awareness to the topic, which will be worth a hell of a lot more than the $250,000 he didn't win. I just wish I could give the guy a big hug for what he did.
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I have to say that I was pulling hard for Trace though as I can relate to his charity all too well. My son has severe food allergies. Among the 25 or so foods he can't have are milk, eggs, nuts, and pineapple. He gets a severe rash if he comes in contact with any of these foods and if he drinks any amount of milk, he can pretty much die as his throat would close up. We have had to use the epi-pen on him twice and brought him to the hospital about 5 times. To say it is scary is a severe understatement. So although Trace didn't win, he brought awareness to the topic, which will be worth a hell of a lot more than the $250,000 he didn't win. I just wish I could give the guy a big hug for what he did.
Without intending any disrespect toward you or your son, can you explain what the money Trace won over the course of the season would be used for? My wife has a mild food allergy and her response is to avoid the foods she's allergic to. Now, I know there's a difference between my wife's reaction to eating peanuts (she gets a little weezy and short of breath) and that of someone like your son or Trace's daughter, so I certainly don't mean to compare them in that sense. But I would think that even though the severity is different, the treatment is the same -- avoid peanuts, check ingredient labels, be aware of what you're eating, etc., and it seems like a completely managable (albeit serious) problem to have.

So I guess my question is that every time Trace mentioned his charity, it just made me wonder -- what are they going to do with the money? Are they trying to cure allergies? Is there something else that could be done? I couldn't tell.
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I liked this season a lot more than I thought I would. I was really expecting a trainwreck. But the 2-hour finales are just too stretched. There's only enough content for 90 minutes at the most, the rest is just filler and very awkward to watch.
Old 03-28-08, 09:25 AM
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So I guess my question is that every time Trace mentioned his charity, it just made me wonder -- what are they going to do with the money? Are they trying to cure allergies? Is there something else that could be done? I couldn't tell.
From their site: http://www.foodallergy.org/about.html

MISSION
To raise public awareness, to provide advocacy and education, and to advance research on behalf of all those affected by food allergies and anaphylaxis.
Anyway, I thought the final challenge was a disappointment because it clearly favored Piers' strengths (connections) over Trace's (creativity). Really, Trace's side of the event ended up being more about management than ideas... BSB were already booked and it didn't seem that Trace was allowed to fiddle with the entertainment side of the event much. The finale was worlds better than the L.A. edition's non-finale, but I miss seeing the dueling events of previous seasons.
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Hats off to Piers, that guy really made the other celebrities look silly. People can b@tch about roledex's, but isn't this called the celebrity apprentice for a reason.

I can't rationalize, how Carol Alt, Trace, Lennox etc. don't have friends with big pockets.

I was actually offended when Trace was trying to act like his friends paying 5k was the same as Piers paying 100k. You can't tell me his big country stars who flew down on a private jet couldn't afford more then 5k? That's BS.

I think Piers killed the final challenge. Ok, maybe the food wasn't around everywhere, but that was an intentional strategy that even Trump agreed made sense. He's just to smart to fall for it Trump said ha..

Piers not selling as many tickets came as a result of a strategy, one that Trump agreed made sense as well. I mean clearly Piers could have outsold the tickets if he wanted to.

I found the live part embarrassing as did others. I really, really was embarrassed when nobody but Ivanka would bid on the dinner with Trace, and Trace trying to pat himself on the back for the USO work.

Trace went into the final challenge not wanting to win, just based upon being the nice guy everybody liked, but at the end it looked like he had changed his tune to me. Trying to tug at people's heart strings for the win Vs Piers hard numbers.

I've never heard or seen Piers, but I'm a fan for him being a straight shooter, and not afraid to stand nose to nose even with Trump/Ivanka etc. It's easier to pay the good guy I think. He wanted to win and did. Cheers.

I liked trace but I would have loved to see a Piers vs Simmons finale.
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I couldn't tell if Ivanka first bid on Trace out of pity, because no one else was bidding or if she bid out of interest, and everyone else backed the hell away because of who she is. Who's going to get into a bidding war with Ivanka with the Donald standing right there.

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Originally Posted by JasonF
Without intending any disrespect toward you or your son, can you explain what the money Trace won over the course of the season would be used for? My wife has a mild food allergy and her response is to avoid the foods she's allergic to. Now, I know there's a difference between my wife's reaction to eating peanuts (she gets a little weezy and short of breath) and that of someone like your son or Trace's daughter, so I certainly don't mean to compare them in that sense. But I would think that even though the severity is different, the treatment is the same -- avoid peanuts, check ingredient labels, be aware of what you're eating, etc., and it seems like a completely managable (albeit serious) problem to have.

So I guess my question is that every time Trace mentioned his charity, it just made me wonder -- what are they going to do with the money? Are they trying to cure allergies? Is there something else that could be done? I couldn't tell.

No disrespect taken.

For now, the food allergy network focuses on education of the problem and researching the cause. For instance, next year my son is going into pre-school. My wife and I are scared to death. This charity, for a nominal fee, provides books, DVDs, and pamphlets not only for my immediate family, but for my son's future classmates, teachers, etc. In short, they are trying to communicate the seriousness of this issue to the masses.

Just as important, if not more important, is finding the cause. I am 34 years old and when I was growing up, I never even heard of food allergies. As Trace said once in the show, there is something out there that is causing the proliferation of these allergies over the last decade or so and the research being done is trying to find the cause.

OK, I will come off my soapbox now....LOL
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I get the appeal of a Food Network, but a Food Allergy Network just sounds like a terrible idea.

But seriously folks, I think food allergies are one of those few cases where "awareness" is a huge deal, because those suffering from the allergies (especially children) are so dependent upon the accuracy of information and attention to detail of others. In terms of tangible benefit, I'm sure educating teachers about how to handle the situation makes a significant difference.

In terms of medical advances, as a child I nearly died due to a severe allergic reaction to insect venom. Years of daily injections changed it from a life-threatening fear to a manageable condition (that still hurts like a bitch). I don't know if similar advances can be made towards food allergies, but I would assume most of the money goes towards that research.

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