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Old 01-21-08, 11:45 AM
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I, for one, was impressed at how much of the "feel" of the first two Terminator movies they managed to capture. However, Lena Headey's Sarah just seems a little "soft" compared to Linda Hamilton's portrayal. I, for one, am glad that all of the terminators don't look like Arnie. It doesn't make sense to have all over your covert killer robots look the same. Kind of makes them easy to spot.

Maybe there are only twelve different models. Hmm.
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Originally Posted by Doug Schiller
But when can these TV producers/directors learn how to stage a decent fight scene?
Actually, the fight scenes were one of the highlights for me. It's nice to take a break from the usual Hollywood "zoom-in to the point where every action is a screen-filling blur" action scenes. Watching people get thrown though walls and floors felt pretty Terminator-y to me.

Maybe I'm in the minority here.
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I thought the pilot and the 2nd episode rocked! I have no idea how they'll keep this level of action going throughout the season and keep the story progressing, but I'll be watching.

The episodes were far better than I anticipated. I just watched both episodes last night and jazzed for tonight's episode.
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I am late to the thread but I finally watched the first first two episodes. I thought it was pretty entertaining although some of the plot points didn't make sense to me. I didn't understand the Terminator head being found in the wreckage: didn't the bank vault explode in 1999? I must have missed something.

I also was thinking that they are pretty immediately trusting of the "good" Terminator chick. If the Terminators were smart they would just send back 2 cyborgs, have the first one try and kill John, have the second one save him and earn his trust, and then later when they aren't looking the good Terminator can kill him without a problem.

In T2 it was much more believable for them to be wary of Arnold when he fisrt showed up.

Oh and when they showed Sarah Conner's age on her FBI record, she was only supposed to be 33? Did she have really go through all the events of the first movie when she was only 18?

It was funny when they first came to 2007, I was waiting for them to react more to the era and how things have changed. I was starting to think it would be funny if a character mentioned 9/11 and they responded "What's 9/11?" So I actually when that was exactly what happened.
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
I am late to the thread but I finally watched the first first two episodes. I thought it was pretty entertaining although some of the plot points didn't make sense to me. I didn't understand the Terminator head being found in the wreckage: didn't the bank vault explode in 1999? I must have missed something.

The head got blown off and toward them and into their time "Bubble" at the last second and was sent forward in time with them. The body was in a junk yard where it's presumably been for ten years.

My whole thing is this: The authorities respond to a bank heist. Two women and a teenager go into a vault and disappear. What's left is a decapitated cyborg... I know LA had some budget issues in the '90s, but I find it hard to believe they'd stamp that case "closed" and throw out a headless robot with the weekly garbage.


Originally Posted by Jadzia
It was funny when they first came to 2007, I was waiting for them to react more to the era and how things have changed. I was starting to think it would be funny if a character mentioned 9/11 and they responded "What's 9/11?" So I actually when that was exactly what happened.

What was even funnier was the exhuberance with which the gang members pantamimed the events for her after she asked what 9/11 was.


Originally Posted by Jadzia
Oh and when they showed Sarah Conner's age on her FBI record, she was only supposed to be 33? Did she have really go through all the events of the first movie when she was only 18?

Your best bet with regards to the ages is to just roll with the punches. I mean she got pregnant in 1984. Terminator 2 took place in 1992 (I think). Are we to believe that John was 8 during the events of T2?



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Old 01-31-08, 12:45 AM
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The script for the first movie said Sarah Connor was 19, and the Terminator finds her college ID (placing her in the 18-22 range), so that actually appears to be pretty much correct (despite Linda Hamilton being 28 at the time).

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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Terminator 2 took place in 1992 (I think). Are we to believe that John was 8 during the events of T2?
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T2 took place in '95; John was 10.
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
T2 took place in '95; John was 10.

Nice, Vipper, thanks, I was never totally sure on that.

But still... did he look ten to you?

And Vasquez let him ride a dirtbike... It was like the battle of Thermopolye convincing my parents to let me ride my huffy without a helmet when I was that age.


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By that movie logic then this John Conner should be 12 years old!!! Are the writers actually using real logic at all??
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Originally Posted by Goofy4Movies
By that movie logic then this John Conner should be 12 years old!!! Are the writers actually using real logic at all??
No, he should be 14:

Born in 1985 (9 months after first movie takes place).
10 in 1995 (when T2 takes place).
14 in 1999 (when SCC takes place before the time jump).

But the series makes him 15, I'm guessing so they could put him in high school.
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Obviously. But traveling to 2007, combined with the fact that John thought that his mother blowing up Cyberdyne ended everything (mentioned in T3) makes it clear that T3 is being ignored in this version.
having read recent book series, which cover 2 or 3 different continuities I can handle that as long as this continuity stays enjoyable to watch

and in searching amazon I see htere are even more terminator books I didn't know about. might have to look into them
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
The head got blown off and toward them and into their time "Bubble" at the last second and was sent forward in time with them. The body was in a junk yard where it's presumably been for ten years.

My whole thing is this: The authorities respond to a bank heist. Two women and a teenager go into a vault and disappear. What's left is a decapitated cyborg... I know LA had some budget issues in the '90s, but I find it hard to believe they'd stamp that case "closed" and throw out a headless robot with the weekly garbage.
I'm really late to the party here, but I just watched the episode. In any event, what you say is mostly right, except they didn't throw the body out with the garbage. In the shot where the body comes up through the landfill, you can see the plaque from the front of the bank ("Established 1963" or whatever the year was). Clearly, at some point between 1997 and 2007, the bank was demolished to make room for the highway on which our heroes appeared ("Same where. Different when.") Implicitly, they left the headless robot body in the bank until it was demolished, at which point the whole thing was scooped up and dumped in a landfill.

An alternate explanation, I suppose, is that the whole bank blew up when Cameron and the Conners teleported out and nobody bothered to sift through the record to find the headless robot body -- a marginally less stupid explanation, I suppose.

Anyway, despite plot holes large enough that Arnold could drive a semi through, I generally enjoyed the first two episodes and will make some time to go watch the other episodes (all of which I have on my Tivo).

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