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Old 02-21-08, 07:10 AM
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I thought this was one of the best eps to date, and they threw in some juicy bits about the "good ones" turning, they don't know why.

I think the show is getting better and hope they can get one more season or two out of it, it would be a nice bookend to the 3+ movies.
Old 02-21-08, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
They screwed up the blood transfusion part too. If Sarah is 0 negative, then John can't be AB-, I don't think.
I think if Kyle is AB- then John can be as well.
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Originally Posted by Class316
I think if Kyle is AB- then John can be as well.
not if Sarah is an O. She can only pass on an O allele to her child. An AB child must have parents that are either A, B, or AB. Not a huge nitpick anyway.
Old 02-21-08, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kakihara1
I agree that they are from Arnold's Terminator in T1. The person I was replying to was saying that the left hand and the chip that Cameron pulled from the terminator were the pieces in question. Reread the person I quoted in my original post.............
Sorry I meant to quote that other poster.
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Originally Posted by Kevin M. Dean
So instead of the approach to time travel in some movies where everything has already happened and the trips to the past are already a part of the timeline, the Terminator series seems to be more of the timeline is not necessarily set and each time a given future sends something back, it causes a branch that may or may not result in the same events happening...
This is the logic the series takes, and probably the last two movies as well, but it doesn't fit with the first movie.

In the first movie the Terminator arrives first, by the branching timeline theory he then creates a timeline branch from that moment forward, yet Reese arrives later and is obviously not from some alternate future where the Terminator succeeded in killing Sarah (which we can assume he would have if not for Reese's interference). Reese somehow managed to depart from the future after the Terminator was sent back and not just go back along his original timeline, but jump over to the one the Terminator created.
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
not if Sarah is an O. She can only pass on an O allele to her child. An AB child must have parents that are either A, B, or AB. Not a huge nitpick anyway.
True. Even if Kyle is AB and Sarah is O then John would be either A OR B. Guess they screwed up again.
Old 02-21-08, 08:53 AM
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I tend to ignore continuity and inaccuracy in TV and movies because they are entertainment, not education. However, maybe this will allay everyone's time travel concerns. In the universe of the TV show, they seem to have figured out how time travel works. In our universe, we have no clue. So lets just accept that when it comes to time travel, they know better than us and leave it at that.
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I actually glad that I didn't rewatch the first two movies before the pilot - because the incontinuities aren't bothering me a bit. The show is better than I thought it would be, even though Summer Glau is getting on my nerves (as expected).
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Originally Posted by Class316
True. Even if Kyle is AB and Sarah is O then John would be either A OR B. Guess they screwed up again.



Originally Posted by wmansir
This is the logic the series takes, and probably the last two movies as well, but it doesn't fit with the first movie.

In the first movie the Terminator arrives first, by the branching timeline theory he then creates a timeline branch from that moment forward, yet Reese arrives later and is obviously not from some alternate future where the Terminator succeeded in killing Sarah (which we can assume he would have if not for Reese's interference). Reese somehow managed to depart from the future after the Terminator was sent back and not just go back along his original timeline, but jump over to the one the Terminator created.



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Old 02-21-08, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
it's a TV show based on a bunch of action movies that were only made to make money with no artistic quality to them. T1 was pretty close to a B movie. when you think about it, the whole story starting with T1 has no logic to it. computers were new in the early 1980's and this was a way to play up on people's fears of them
I don't think that's a fair assertation. James Cameron seems to care about his work. Has Cameron made any comments on what he thinks about the show, or the rights being sold off to C3 (I think that's the studio's name)?

If the past is changed, the future is only a memory to those who lived it.

My head hurts.
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Jesus H Fucking Christ, some of you sound like those continuity nerds who have five hundred competing theories on how Khan recognized Chekov. It's a TV show based on a movie which was based on a movie. Sometimes there are continuity hiccups to allow the progression of the story. Consider it the charm of a continuing artistic-expression-in-progress.


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Just wait until T4 comes out.
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So what was the big secret the machines were building in the future, was it the time machine??

The one thing I figure is the piano playing robot that tortured the humans was the same model as Cameron (which explains why he shot after her). I don't get though why the machines just packed up and left??

Either way, it is a great show and I am finding Summer Glau plays a perfect Terminator + she is gorgeous to boot so it's a win win situation.
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Originally Posted by Feneant
I don't get though why the machines just packed up and left??
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So they could leave the spy with them. They take the spy back to there base and back in time. The spy then goes terminator on their ass.
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at first i was a bit apprehensive with the future scenes but they ended up being pretty cool

i like the show is getting a bit more depth. first few eps were just running from terminators.
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Originally Posted by troystiffler
I don't think that's a fair assertation. James Cameron seems to care about his work. Has Cameron made any comments on what he thinks about the show, or the rights being sold off to C3 (I think that's the studio's name)?

If the past is changed, the future is only a memory to those who lived it.

My head hurts.
this may be true, but the only reason this is a TV show is nostalgia. almost everyone who watches it saw T1 when they were a kid and liked it because at that age most people don't like anything other than mindless action movies
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Originally Posted by troystiffler
I don't think that's a fair assertation. James Cameron seems to care about his work.
Exactly. The first two movies had a personal touch to them, and you could really see it. They strove to be something and accomplished it. Terminator 3 and SCC are nothing more than fan fiction, and very poorly done fan fiction in a lot of parts.
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I'll tell you what happens on Judgement Day....


...this show gets cancelled.

The target audience for this show isn't sophisticated as the people posting on this thread. You can't expect your audience to have a thorough background on the details of two movies (one of which is 20 years old). We're only 5 episodes(?) in and they're expecting us to keep track of characters and details in 3 time periods?

I'm enjoying it, but this is waaaaayyy too convoluted to maintain ratings.
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Originally Posted by Strafe
I tend to ignore continuity and inaccuracy in TV and movies because they are entertainment, not education.
I agree. I'm able to look past certain things for entertainment value. Such as, it would be much easier if the terminators went back in time and killed Sarah's mother before she was born.

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