al_bundy

anyone else notice the cylons are dressing differently?

no more night out dresses for the 6's. Leoben is in black instead of jeans. The 8's still look like they are dressed the same.

An4h0ny

outside of the first two eps this season, this was the best so far

finally something actually happened

Patman

You mean, like finding Earth?

RoboDad

Seriously? Did anyone really think Starbuck wouldn't make it in time to save Tigh? Or that the Cylons would really launch their nukes, destroying the entire fleet (and ending the series)? All of the "tension" was telegraphed a mile away, and from the moment they showed the establishing shot of the planet, I knew they were going to show a post-apocalyptic Earth when they landed. Very trite and predictable to me. Maybe I was just watching a different episode than everyone else.

Derrich

What are this weeks lottey numbers?


I didnt see any of that coming. BSG hasn't been afraid to kill off characters or change the entire series without any warning. Seen Cally lately?

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RoboDad

4, 8, 15, 16, 23 & 42

Elpresidentepez

Word.

al_bundy

in the shot where they fly to earth in the vipers and landing ships you can see a big black splotch on the planet that looks like it was burned

dhmac

Interesting religious interpretation. And it's also important to remember that "Battlestar Galactica" was created by a Mormon (Glen A. Larson) and the basic concept of the show is loosely based on certain Mormon beliefs (i.e. the belief that a 13th tribe of Israel left before the original 12 tribes fell and settled a new "promised land" which was America), so there's always been a strong religious connection in the show from the very beginning.

Doc MacGyver

...And how Adama looked at magic stones in his hat that revealed god's message telling him the way to earth. But first they must impregnate as many girls as possible (what with all the souls waiting to get out), and acknowledge that the Cylons were just humans that didn't accept Jesus' message, so he turned them into robots as punishment.

Oh, yeah, and Roslin is the prophet, so she obviously gets first pick of the young bitches.



-Doc

Shannon Nutt

I have to be honest...I didn't think the whole "Planet of the Apes" ending was particularly interesting, and far from "shocking".

That said, as long as the final 10 (or 12) episodes don't deal with underground human survivors who worship "The Bomb", I'm still on board to see how this thing finishes up.

nemein

Are they really doing that many? I mean at this point they could wrap it up w/ one good 4 hour mini-series and frankly from how this season has gone so far the sooner they wrap it up the better.

bluetoast

Correction:



Still an awesome episode though, best part was Olmos's acting. It's only been like a month and a half since I started watching this show, and I just caught up on Friday. Love this.

al_bundy

might be a little more since the rumor is they want the finale to be 1-2 hours long instead of an hour

bryce0lynch

Leoben is turning out to be my favorite cylon. If you ignore the fact that he's bat-shit crazy then he seems like the most level headed and the least xenophobic of them. He doesn't seem to be getting very good scripts, but the actor is doing a good job with what he's got. I especially liked his expression, nd the contract with the other peoples, in that last shot.

adamblast

The human's truce with half of the cylons looks like it's going to hold up, but there's still half the machine race to fight. I expect the final 10 or 12 eps to have plenty of action as they defend earth from space attack--without exactly knowing why the planet is worth all the trouble. Dean Stockwell should reappear as the main villian, with more metal backing him than we've ever seen before.

What makes Earth worth the bother? That's the question posed in the final series of shots. I'm wondering if the answer will be some explicit plot device or not. Maybe it *is* just another dead world. Now *both* races have to ask if they deserve to survive, and starting over is everyone's task now that both races are decimated.

Doc MacGyver

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-Doc

adamblast

Since the last half of the season has shown Baltar growing more powerful as a cult leader, I expect he's got at least one major treachery left in him. He *did* succeed to an extent in communicating with both the pilot-hybrid and one of the centurian guards... I'm remembering that Baltar *was* the primary human villian in the original series, after all, the only human traitor aligned with the cylons...

Maybe he and his followers defect at a key moment and turn on the Earth folk? Would he abandon the six's altogether and fight alongside the metal alliance? What does he think his God is telling him to do? It almost seems like *his* monotheism is more ripe for a war ("you need God, Roslin") than any of the cylons.

Edit: Roslin not murdering him when she had the chance was certainly the right thing in the moment--in fact it was the turning point for her recapturing her own humanity, as shown in the Elosha visions and her ability to love again. But will it end up costing thousands of more lives in the long run? The right move often has dire consequences in this show.

bryce0lynch

My theory ...

pinata242

But the constellations match what was in the Tomb of Athena [as confirmed by 92% of Gaeta]. If it isn't Earth, it is damn close. Closer than any habitable planet of which we know.

Occam's Razor. I don't think it's as complicated as it seems. This is Earth. This Earth was inhabited by remnants of Kobol and were previously deemed unworthy of survival - most likely by themselves.

al_bundy

i was watching the Dinner episode on Hulu and Natalie said the Final 5 are in the fleet. Deanna said she could communicate with them and only 4 were in the fleet. then there was the vision thing that got Natalie killed. and i also noticed when the Watchtower Four heard the transmission, only they heard it. The other cylons didn't and even had to help Tori.

it's almost like someone is sending these out to only select cylons to get them to do certain things

pinata242

Natalie had no information about the Final 5, so she could only assume they're in the fleet since they obviously weren't with the Cylons. It is certainly possible all 5 were in the fleet at that time because...

Deanna said only 4 were in the human fleet. Remember there were a contingent of humans on that Rebel Basestar at that exact moment. Easily possible Roslin, Helo (not likely), Baltar, or any one of the random pilots are the 5th.

Deanna's "communication" was simply because she was issuing her message to Prez & Admiral Adama on Galactica and the 4 she came to get were within earshot. I think she said "I am in contact with..." meaning "I have delivered my message to..." these 4. We know that to be direct communication, whereas the context of the show simply meant "I have delivered my message via you, Prez & Adm Adama, to..."

Regarding the signal that led those 3 to the Viper... I can't say why they went to the Viper specifically, but I took it to mean they were tuned into the same beacon only the Viper could hear. It sounds like music to those Skinjobs and the Viper's nav system read it as a bearing. Meaning whatever technology is in the Watchtower 4's collective heads is also present on the rebuilt Viper Starbuck flew back.

al_bundy

natalie knew that the five were in the fleet because in the first episode during the battle, one of the raiders scanned Anders and then all the cylons retreated when the raider communicated that a cylon was piloting one of the human ships.

dan30oly

I also assumed that the 5th was on the Basestar and Deanna knew she didn't need to make an issue about bringing that one forward since she could do so at any time.

pinata242

But Anders is only 1 of the five... She couldn't have known much more than there was at least one.