Doctor Who (BBCA) -- Series 8 Thread -- premieres 8/23/14
#301
Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Story felt desperate. And why can't an assistant/companion ever leave without it being tragic or heartbreaking? Weakest finale in the run of the current update.
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Part 1 was good. That? Perhaps the most depressing episode of NewWho I have watched.
The Masters plan? Create an army, give control to the Doctor and hope he'll take over the universe because he's either a bad man, or misses his friend?
Also, no idea how putting the Doctor and Clara together was supposed to do anything.
I hope Xmas special ends on a high note, and the. series 9 makes large improvements.
The Masters plan? Create an army, give control to the Doctor and hope he'll take over the universe because he's either a bad man, or misses his friend?
Also, no idea how putting the Doctor and Clara together was supposed to do anything.
I hope Xmas special ends on a high note, and the. series 9 makes large improvements.
#304
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Martha got to leave without much fuss. Since she's a UNIT associate she could turn up again at some point. Or has Moffatt completely cut the cord on anything from the RTD run that he didn't come up with?
#305
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
I feel like there was a missed opportunity for someone to say "They're coming to get you Clara"
#306
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
From what I gather, the official line is that Martha and Mickey are "freelancers" at the end of "The End of Time," so she's no longer with UNIT.
The problem with companions is that, especially in the new version of the show, there has to be a compelling reason for them to leave. Otherwise, why wouldn't they just stay adventuring with The Doctor forever? Rose and 10 were basically shown as soul-mates, so the only way to tear them apart was to put them in literally different universes. Donna had to forget The Doctor entirely to be ok with staying home. Amy & Rory, similar to Clara, were juggling their home life and The Doctor, so they had little reason to be "homesick." Martha only got of "easy" because of the whole unrequited love angle; it was simply too painful for Martha to stay with The Doctor. That's not something they can use for every companion.
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Part 1 was good. That? Perhaps the most depressing episode of NewWho I have watched.
The Masters plan? Create an army, give control to the Doctor and hope he'll take over the universe because he's either a bad man, or misses his friend?
Also, no idea how putting the Doctor and Clara together was supposed to do anything.
I hope Xmas special ends on a high note, and the. series 9 makes large improvements.
The Masters plan? Create an army, give control to the Doctor and hope he'll take over the universe because he's either a bad man, or misses his friend?
Also, no idea how putting the Doctor and Clara together was supposed to do anything.
I hope Xmas special ends on a high note, and the. series 9 makes large improvements.
#309
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't seen Jack Harkness. After all, he debuted in one of the Moffatt-penned episodes. I think I'd like to see Captain Jack and The Doctor team up for a bit.
#310
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
There's probably some rights issues after Torchwood moved to Starz for one ill-fated season.
#311
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Well this was a head-scratcher. The plot/plan didn't make a whole lot of sense - spend several thousand years uploading everyone just so that their uploaded conciousness could then download into their cyber-ized bodies? Why? (By the way, where'd all the metal (if it is) come from to cover them? The clouds as well?)
Danny Pink's end was somewhat meh - get hit by a car in the 1st 5 mins and he's out of there. Same for the bow-tie-girl, ZZAPT. The Bridgadier nod was fun as was the few UNIT bits except the plane ...
Somewhere around a C - C+ for me ...
Danny Pink's end was somewhat meh - get hit by a car in the 1st 5 mins and he's out of there. Same for the bow-tie-girl, ZZAPT. The Bridgadier nod was fun as was the few UNIT bits except the plane ...
Somewhere around a C - C+ for me ...
#312
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
Wasn't it strongly implied that the timetraveller was from Clara and Danny's lineage? But if Danny's already dead, how will that happen?
#314
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Re: Doctor Who (S8E12) -- “Death In Heaven” -- 11/08/14
I personally liked Clara and will miss her if she doesn't come back. I love Jenna Coleman's delivery.
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Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
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The Doctor and Clara face their Last Christmas. Trapped on an Arctic base, under attack from terrifying creatures, who are you going to call? Santa Claus!
#317
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
I'm surprised this thread doesn't have more posts in it.
I liked it. I was a bit wary of the idea of mixing Santa Claus and something "scary," but it largely worked.
Of course Santa couldn't be real; the show has always wrapped its fantastic under "science fiction," and Santa Claus is too much just straight up magic. Santa Claus would've have to be revealed as a Time Lord or something in order to "fit" into the show; of course, the last shot of the tangerine leaves open the possibility...
I liked it. I was a bit wary of the idea of mixing Santa Claus and something "scary," but it largely worked.
Of course Santa couldn't be real; the show has always wrapped its fantastic under "science fiction," and Santa Claus is too much just straight up magic. Santa Claus would've have to be revealed as a Time Lord or something in order to "fit" into the show; of course, the last shot of the tangerine leaves open the possibility...
#318
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
Agree it was pretty good, although I think the last Chritmas special I really enjoyed was with Tenant.
I thought the tangerine was very much like the end of Inception, suggesting Santa was real.
I did think the answer on the sled and sack was hilarious - "It's bigger on the inside."
I thought the tangerine was very much like the end of Inception, suggesting Santa was real.
I did think the answer on the sled and sack was hilarious - "It's bigger on the inside."
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#319
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
This was my favorite Capaldi story so far.
Which shocks me considering it featured Santa Claus (wouldn't have minded if he turned out to be real, he was such a badass), and was mostly a knock-off of Alien, The Thing, and Inception.
Which shocks me considering it featured Santa Claus (wouldn't have minded if he turned out to be real, he was such a badass), and was mostly a knock-off of Alien, The Thing, and Inception.
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
I really hate to admit it, but damn was this a good christmas episode.
#321
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
Something about this felt more like Doctor Who since the new season started. I liked it and I was not sure if the last bit was real at first since I have heard things about Clara staying and leaving.
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
At least they acknowledged it was a knock-off of Alien and The Thing with the DVD list.
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Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
Spoiler:
As an episode, I liked it. And I, too, had thought we were due a new companion.
#324
Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
Best episode this year. It gave me hope for the series. As for the Alien references, it made since for the plot.
#325
Re: Doctor Who 2014 Christmas Special -- “Last Christmas” -- 12/25/14
The announcement at the end appears to confirm that Jenna-Louise Coleman is not leaving Dr Who this year at rumored.