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Old 01-19-10, 01:58 PM
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

con's
-to many raw matches, i like to see them on there, but way to much, should of put more better matches and take away a few tv matches
-not enough from his prime years from mid to late 90s, to much from the last 5 years

pro's
-one night stand match with bulldog, awesome underrated match i hope they include the aftermath of it
-casket match vs taker, good match and nice to see them not shy away from this
-hbk promo on hogan in montreal, classic promo
-glad to see both hbk/angle and hbk/taker from wrestlemania on here, not everybody gets the ppv dvds, i mostly get the superstar dvds cause most ppvs only have 1 or 2 good matches i want, so i wait for them to come on dvds like this

overall im happy but still could of been better, i give it 7.5/10
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Correct me if needed, but most of the Michael's stuff has not been released before, right? (I ask because I don't have From The Vault or The Boyhood Dream).
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the one thing that annoys me is that the jericho/michaels ladder match isnt on here. also it would have been nice to see his match with triple h at summerslam 2002 on here but whatever, it still looks good
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

I had the Best of Raw 2009 for $19.95 in my hands today but when I went to the register at K-Mart they wouldn't sell it to me because of the street date.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by JCWBobC
I had the Best of Raw 2009 for $19.95 in my hands today but when I went to the register at K-Mart they wouldn't sell it to me because of the street date.
Hate when that happens.

This happened to me few times in the past with Best Buy putting stuff out early.

The last time it happened was when they put out the Best of Smackdown 10th Anniversary DVD like a week and a half early and they wouldn't sell it because the checkout system locked the sale saying "not to sell before XXX date". Person said they can't sell it because it has a locked date and if they break it the store gets a fine of $5,000.

After that they had other DVDs out early but i didn't bother to pick them up because they wouldn't sell it, so why bother.
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Silvervision have released the listing for the Shawn Michaels set

Shawn Michaels is one of the most charismatic and talented athletes in the history of entertainment. For more than 20 years he has wowed crowds, earning accolades, championships and numerous monikers, including “The Icon,” “The Main Event,” and “Mr. WrestleMania.” Now, for the first time ever, Shawn Michaels sits down and in an intimate interview retraces his early days in Texas through his Rocker tag-team partnership in AWA and WWE through his multiple reigns as WWE Champion. Shawn Michaels: My Journey offers surprising insights and absolute candor as he relives the highs and lows of his historic career. Over 20 amazing matches from the 80s, 90s and 2000s —most available on DVD for the very first time—demonstrate why Shawn Michaels is truly “The Showstopper.”

Disc 1

A Boy in a Man’s World

Shawn Michaels vs. One Man Gang
World Class Championship Wrestling January 11, 1985

Our Big Event

Midnight Rockers vs. ‘Playboy’ Buddy Rose / ‘Pretty Boy’ Doug Summers
AWA WrestleRock April 20, 1986

Rockin’ All Night

AWA World Tag Team Championship
Midnight Rockers vs. Nasty Boys
AWA Championship Wrestling March 5, 1988

“They Wanted Us”

Rockers vs. Brain Busters
Boston Garden March 18, 1989

Tag Team Success

Rockers vs. Hart Foundation
Madison Square Garden November 25, 1989

Going Solo

Intercontinental Championship
Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart
Ottawa, Ontario June 2, 1992
Alternate Commentary: Michael Cole / Shawn Michaels

Always Having Fun with Davey

Shawn Michaels vs. British Bulldog
RAW March 6, 1995

Contrasting Styles

Intercontinental Championship
Shawn Michaels vs. Sid Vicious
RAW September 11, 1995

High Flyers

Shawn Michaels vs. 1-2-3 Kid
RAW March 4, 1996


Disc 2

The Champion

Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind
RAW August 11, 1997

D-Generation X

WWE European Championship
British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels
One Night Only September 20, 1997

This Is Going To Be Art

Casket Match for the WWE Championship
Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker
Royal Rumble January 18, 1998

Ups & Downs

Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho
WrestleMania XIX March 30, 2003

My Friend

Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair
Bad Blood June 15, 2003
Alternate Commentary: Michael Cole / Shawn Michaels

High Expectations

Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle
WrestleMania 21 April 3, 2005

Montreal & The Hulkster

Shawn Michaels Promo in Montreal on Hulk Hogan
RAW August 15, 2005


Disc 3

Tribute to the Troops

Boot Camp Match
Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H
RAW December 19, 2005
Alternate Commentary: Michael Cole / Shawn Michaels

The Veteran

Fatal 4-Way Match for the WWE Championship
John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Edge vs. Randy Orton
Backlash April 29, 2007

Legend Killer

WWE Championship Match
Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton
Survivor Series November 18, 2007

The Family Man

Unsanctioned Match
Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho
Unforgiven September 7, 2008

Mr. WrestleMania

Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
WrestleMania 25 April 5, 2009

Greatest Ever?
I am shockingly disappointed in match list for this set. HBK is probably my favorite wrestler, and was hyped to see this one, but this set is a disappointment.

-Disc 1 looks solid. Not really into older AWA stuff, but it is of note, and I'll bet the matches are solid. Don't really remember those RAW matches, but I'll bet they're good, too.

-Disc 2 seems to have a lot of stuff available on other discs.

-Disc 3, aside from HBK/HHH is nothing but already available PPV matches. I happen to have every single one on DVD, and is a bit of bust. The good news is for the people who said "the only reason to get WM 25 is for UT/HBK." Now they don't have to get WM 25.


I would have rather seen less recent PPV matches, and more TV and older ppvs. Such as:

-vs. Diesel - WrestleMania 11
-vs. Sid Vicious - Survivor Series 1996
-vs. Sid Vicious - Royal Rumble 1997
-HBK vs. John Cena - first match - October '05
-Randy Orton & Edge vs. HBK - Handicap match - January '07
-HBK vs. Chris Jericho - Last Man Standing - RAW, 11/08
-HBK vs. Kurt Angle - 30 minute iron man match - RAW Homecoming
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

The LMS with Jericho was great also would have included Jericho/HBK II from RAW on July 21, 2003 in Los Angeles. Both were fun matches.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

correct me but wasn't it the ladder match at no mercy that ended the long fued with hbk/jericho, shouldnt that match be on there instead of unforgiven
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Was at Best Buy today and to my surprise they put out John Morrison Rock Star.

It seems as if it's only 1 disc rather than 2 disc with Digital copy unless the digital copy is FYE exclusive since that is the only site listing it. But it looks like its only 1 disc here in Canada and probably everywhere else.

I didn't bother to get it since the cashier wouldn't even be able to process it, since it will lock out the sale saying "not to sell before Feb. 16". This happened to me few times at Best Buy, Future Shop and Walmart so if i see a DVD out early at those stores i don't bother getting it. I'm sure someone will probably try to buy it and once they find out it's put out early they will remove it from the shelves.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

To respond to both posts about HBK/Y2J matches, the one they had in July 2003 was very good, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it on a Jericho set one day. It's the only time Jericho beat HBK cleanly.

As for their "final encounter," the ladder match was their last on ppv, but Unforgiven was the culmination of the storyline. HBK whooped Jericho's ass, and after Jericho won the title later on in the night, HBK then become #1 contender. It was more of an afterthought than an actual feud.
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Just some random thoughts on the Morrison and HBK disks...

The match selection for the Morrison set is downright weak. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's nothing but post-name change TV matches on the thing, right? No PPV matches, no MNM matches, no Johnny Nitro matches and nothing from OVW. It's a waste. I'm not saying the guy is worthy yet of a 3-disk marathon, but if they're going to release this set they might as well make it 2-disks and throw in a good chunk of early footage. I'm sure the documentary will be fine. But I'm pretty underwhelmed otherwise.

The HBK disks are definitely more interesting. I'm glad to see the World Class and AWA stuff represented since I always love random matches from other organizations being included. And having tag matches against the Brainbusters and Hart Foundation is great. Beyond that, I like the fact that many of the bouts aren't the typical "expected" inclusions. It's Michaels vs. a bunch of A-listers, but kept a little more fresh. So I think I'll most likely give up my 20 bills on the Show Stopper and pass on the Rock Star.
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Yeah the Morrison DVD is too soon and too focused on the John Morrison character/name. No MNM/Nitro matches is a dissapointment. I like JoMo but I will wait to see if his career progresses to the main event and in turn another DVD release and a more full career retrospective.

HBK's DVD however is however another exciting and somewhat fresh compilation. I will definitely be picking it upon it's release date and I'm hoping to find a special edition of some sorts with a bonus disc or something. Although I dout I'll find anything because WWE seems to have stopped with exclusives and bonuses.
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I saw the Mattel Belt, figures, and DVD at Toys R Us today. It was either $34.95 or $39.95.

Bob
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by md2810
Here's what I think what should be on the Hart Family Anthology DVD...

1 - 1.5 hour documentary, plus...

British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Championship Match
Bret Hart vs. Dynamite Kid
Stampede Wrestling - 1979

International Tag Team Championship Match
Bret & Keith Hart vs. The Kiwis (Luke Williams & Butch Miller
Stampede Wrestling - 1979

Bret, Bruce & Keith Hart vs. Hubert Gallant, Duke Myers & The Dynamite Kid
Stampede Wrestling

British Commonwealth Mid-Heavyweight Championship Match
Dynamite Kid vs. Davey Boy Smith
Stampede Wrestling - 1982

Ladder Match
Bret Hart vs. Bad News Allen
Stampede Wrestling - 1982

Bret & Stu Hart vs. Archie Gouldie & J.R. Foley
Stampede Wrestling - 1983

Football Helmet Match
Jim Neidhart vs. Mike Sharpe
Stampede Wrestling

Bret Hart vs Rene Goulet
Madison Square Garden – January 21 1985

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
The British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith & The Dynamite Kid) vs. The Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart)
Superstars – February 7, 1987

The Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart) vs. The British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith & The Dynamite Kid)
Prime Time Wrestling – November 19, 1987

Owen Hart vs. Johnny Smith
Stampede Wrestling - April 30, 1988

Street Fight
Owen Hart vs. Dynamite Kid
Stampede Wrestling - 1989

The Hart Foundation vs. The Rockers
Madison Square Garden – November 25, 1989

Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels
Wrestling Challenge – February 4, 1990

WWE World Tag Team Championship Match (Best 2 out of 3 Falls)
Demolition vs The Hart Foundation
SummerSlam – August 29, 1990

The New Foundation vs. The Orient Express
Royal Rumble – January 19, 1992

WWE Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. Bret "Hitman" Hart
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan – October 12, 1992

Survivor Series "Family Feud" Match
Bret, Owen, Bruce and Keith Hart vs Shawn Michaels and his Knights
Survivor Series – November 24, 1993

Bret "Hitman" Hart & Owen Hart vs. The Steiner Brothers
Florence, SC – January 11, 1994

WWE Championship Lumberjack Match
Bret "Hitman" Hart vs. Owen Hart
Portland, ME – August 17, 1994

WWE Championship Steel Cage Match
Bret "Hitman" Hart vs. Owen Hart
SummerSlam – August 29, 1994

Bret "Hitman" Hart & The British Bulldog vs. Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart & Owen Hart
Albany, NY – October 19, 1994

No Holds Barred Match
Bret "Hitman" Hart vs. Owen Hart
Corpus Christi, TX – January 10, 1995

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
The British Bulldog & Owen Hart vs. The Smoking Gunns
In Your House: Mind Games – September 22, 1996

WWE European Championship Tournament Finals
The British Bulldog vs Owen Hart
Raw – February 26, 1997

Owen Hart vs. The British Bulldog
Raw – March 31, 1997

10-Man Tag Team Match
The Hart Foundation vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, Ken Shamrock, Goldust & The Legion of Doom
In Your House: Canadian Stampede – July 6, 1997

Hart Family Dungeon Match
Owen Hart vs. Ken Shamrock
Fully Loaded – July 26, 1998

Bret "Hitman" Hart & Lex Lugar vs. The British Bulldog & Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart
WCW Thunder – September 10, 1998

WCW Championship No Disqualification Match
Bret "Hitman" Hart vs. Goldberg
WCW Starrcade – December 19, 1999

Six-Person Tag Team Match
The Hart Dynasty vs. Cryme Tyme & Eve Torres
SmackDown – July 17, 2009

What do you think? - I tried not to include too many matches already on other DVDs and tried to put on some quite rare footage.
This would be a phenominal match listing for the Hart family DVD! Kudos to MD2810 for coming up with it. Sadly, I doubt it will turn out quite this good. But I'd love to be proven wrong! Hopefully the WWE will be able to utilize Stampede matches in their entirety and take advantage of that. The clips on Bret's first DVD were great, but having full matches would be so much more awesome! It would also be cool to include an early Blue Blazer match or two and maybe throw on an old Bret match from Georgia Championship Wrestling as a random extra.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Another KMart had the Best of Raw 2009 on the shelf but they wouldn't sell it either.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by JCWBobC
Another KMart had the Best of Raw 2009 on the shelf but they wouldn't sell it either.
That sucks!

I went back to my nearest Best Buy that had the Morrison DVD out early and decided to buy it to see if it would check out or not and when the cashier scanned it a notice came up on the bottom "Not to sell before Feb. 16" and wouldn't continue further.

He was pretty surprised it was out that early and the conversation went like this:

Cashier - "ummmm where did you find this?"
Me - "in the general interest section"
Cashier - "this wasn't suppose to be out"
Me - "i didn't know that...is there anyway to override it?"
Cashier - "i could...but i could get in big trouble and the studio would fine the store $5,000 for every copy sold...Sorry bro.
Me -

I remember years ago Best Buy, Future Shop, and Walmart never had this street date lock in their system and you could buy WWE DVDs that were put out early without any problems.

Almost every DVD i bought in 2003-2005 were found like 1-2 weeks early at Best Buy and Walmart and i use to get it without that stupid system lock.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

There is an ad on the back of the newest WWE mag from Lifelock with the following text:

"WWE Universe members - act now to receive a 10% discount and a Free Collectible WWE DVD when you sign up at LifeLock.com! Call 1-800-LIFELOCK or visit www-lifelock-com and use promocode WWE2"

I checked the site and didn't see anything so I called them and the CSR didn't know which WWE DVD it was.

Anyone want to sign up and let us know what the dvd is?

The fine print says the DVD has a retail value of $35 and you must be a member for at least 30 days to get the DVD. Also, the DVD's will be mailed within 60 days of enrollment.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Will Canada be gettting the Best of Raw on Blu-Ray?

Amazon Canada still has it listed and it is the saem regio as the US.

I wonder if this is like the Best of 2001 that was a Canadian exclusive.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by doctaheath78
Will Canada be gettting the Best of Raw on Blu-Ray?

Amazon Canada still has it listed and it is the saem regio as the US.

I wonder if this is like the Best of 2001 that was a Canadian exclusive.
I'm not really sure about this now. I was on HMV.ca and they have this "check availability" feature for stores and when i checked the Blu-ray version no stores have it but with the DVD version all stores have it in stock for this Tuesday.

Maybe it will only be available on Amazon.ca, but i guess the only way to find out is checking for it this Tuesday.
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The only place around me that has that stupid release date notification is KMart. I've found 2-3 dvds there out early over the years only to be dissed at the register. Ugh.

For those interested, Kayfabecommentaries.com is having a nice sale...Buy 2 Get 1 Free on all their titles. I recommend checking out the Guest Booker series (Cornette, Gagne) Youshoot (Sullivan, HTM), & Timeline (HTM, Rikishi, Muraco). Spend the $40 and get a couple dvds-well worth the $$$.

My latest pickups are Youshoot New Jack, Youshoot Hardcore Holly & YouShoot Sandman. Will be grabbing Best of Raw 09 this Tuesday.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Got the Raw 09 blu ray pre-ordered on Amazon.ca so will see what happens tomorrow
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by Aces_High
The only place around me that has that stupid release date notification is KMart. I've found 2-3 dvds there out early over the years only to be dissed at the register. Ugh.
I work in retail. Electronics Dept. So I know how it works with street dates and such. I don't get upset when Im not allowed to buy a DVD/CD that was accidently put out on the shelf early at a store. Sure it's on the store that it was put out early or whatever. But it was a mistake.

There are many workers who stock stuff on shelves and sometimes it will be someone who is unaware of street dates. You can't train them all about this stuff right away. Sometimes it's a planogram that is tied on Sunday but the release date isn't until Tuesday for some items, so the item is accidently put out early by someone who was just doing their job.

I don't even try anymore if I see something out early. Why set yourself up for dissapointment? And even if I do try it's just "it's worth a shot" type of thing. No reason to get upset about something you knew was probably going to happen. Is it so hard to simply wait for the realease date? "Ugh"
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

I have to agree. It's really not a big deal at all. If you have to wait a few days or a week, why does it even matter? I have gotten a few things before street date over the years, and I was pleased to be in the right place at the right time, but I wouldn't have cared if they had denied me, either.

That said, don't almost all the shipping boxes have huge stickers or text on them that say "not for sale until xx-xx-xx" or something similar? It shouldn't be too much to expect store employees to be able to glance at the boxes they are busting open-especially when anyone working in a store electronics department should be at least somewhat aware that DVD's and music are street dated items.
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Re: Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XII

Originally Posted by hbkbiggestfan
I work in retail. Electronics Dept. So I know how it works with street dates and such. I don't get upset when Im not allowed to buy a DVD/CD that was accidently put out on the shelf early at a store. Sure it's on the store that it was put out early or whatever. But it was a mistake.

There are many workers who stock stuff on shelves and sometimes it will be someone who is unaware of street dates. You can't train them all about this stuff right away. Sometimes it's a planogram that is tied on Sunday but the release date isn't until Tuesday for some items, so the item is accidently put out early by someone who was just doing their job.

I don't even try anymore if I see something out early. Why set yourself up for dissapointment? And even if I do try it's just "it's worth a shot" type of thing. No reason to get upset about something you knew was probably going to happen. Is it so hard to simply wait for the realease date? "Ugh"
I work at Target and sometimes stock electronics. The boxes say which to pull, and there in theory shouldn't be a home for them yet. Stil, accidents do happen, and as long as it's caught at the register, no harm no foul I say.
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Originally Posted by KurtK26
I work at Target and sometimes stock electronics. The boxes say which to pull, and there in theory shouldn't be a home for them yet. Stil, accidents do happen, and as long as it's caught at the register, no harm no foul I say.
I work at Target as well. Occasionally Tuesday items get tied on Sunday or a release date is pushed back to a Friday which can also cause this problem. The boxes they come in do usually say not to sell until xx/xx/2010 but once they are backstocked they are taken out of those boxes. And if they get tied out on the sales floor they will be pulled from the back and sometimes stocked if someone unaware is stocking them. Bottom line is there are a number of situations in which it can happen. And it is illegal for a retailer to over ride a transaction for an item that is street dated for a future date and will result in a fine. So if anyone expects to use "the customer is always right" routine then think again. It's just something that can't be done, especially now that the registers alert you of the street date and won't complete the transaction.


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