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Old 05-05-11, 09:11 AM
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Just to partake in the side conversation, I received the Star Wars Trilogyu VHS box set (1990) for Christmas in 1992. I also bought the corresponding re-issue of From "Star Wars" to "Jedi". Still have the box; no idea what became of the other.

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I also wound up with the THX VHS releases in 1995, though I can't recall now if I bought them or received those as gifts. I did buy the Special Edition VHS box set the day it was released in 1997. Sadly, I never owned the original movies--theatrical or SE--in widescreen. (Strangely, I didn't buy The Phantom Menace pan & scan; I held out for the Widescreen Collectors Edition.)

On DVD, I bought the prequels (widescreen), the 2004 OT box and the 2006 OT individual releases (Walmart exclusives with the comic adaptation reprints).

Looking back, my only real regret was buying the THX and SE VHS in pan & scan. In those days, though, I was young and I had absolutely no contact with another human being who even knew or cared about such things.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
It's true though. Look at this thread, it's the most active in this forum! For so many people that claim to be disappointed... they are still going to buy it anyway.
True or not, that's a horrendous "PR" move. She should be smacked and told not to comment again, especially if she's going to talk shit about the people that allowed her lifestyle and to be so out-of-touch.

Eventually those people won't buy it, though. Look at me, for instance. I had it pre-ordered and I cancelled it because it doesn't do anything for me.

Then again, I'd like to believe you can't keep piling the same shit on people AND tell them they should love it. Apparently that's not true.
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
Looking back, my only real regret was buying the THX and SE VHS in pan & scan. In those days, though, I was young and I had absolutely no contact with another human being who even knew or cared about such things.
During my VHS days, I didn't like widescreen and didn't understand it. When I upgraded to DVD I found I had no choice in many cases, but when I watched my first WS DVD, it just didn't bother me anymore, and subsequently I was informed why movies should be watched in WS.

There was probably a year or two between my turn to WS and my seeing Star Wars again, but that was one of the last films I remember being blown away by how much I had been missing in FS. It was just so ingrained in me as what it was; it wasn't until I was watching it that it really hit me that, "Oh, yeah, this is a movie too and I've been watching it in FS all my life."
Old 05-05-11, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
True or not, that's a horrendous "PR" move. She should be smacked and told not to comment again, especially if she's going to talk shit about the people that allowed her lifestyle and to be so out-of-touch.
Personally, I thought her tweets were funny and showed she actually was in touch with the divisive nature of hardcore fandom.

Then again, I'd like to believe you can't keep piling the same shit on people AND tell them they should love it. Apparently that's not true.
The home video market is built on double-dips and "value added" editions. Is what Lucas has done honestly any worse than, say, the endless releases of the Bond movies? It's not the series of Star Wars re-issues that's the problem. What bothers people is what isn't released.
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*sigh* This is just the same old discussion over and over. I've bought every iteration up until this point. The upgrade to Blu-Ray isn't enough this time.

I guess it's just me, but I don't think it's funny to have someone say "Yeah, you'll bitch about it but you'll still give us your money because you don't have the balls to say no".
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Originally Posted by pinata242
*sigh* This is just the same old discussion over and over. I've bought every iteration up until this point. The upgrade to Blu-Ray isn't enough this time.

I guess it's just me, but I don't think it's funny to have someone say "Yeah, you'll bitch about it but you'll still give us your money because you don't have the balls to say no".
Careful man, she might sic her sister on you...

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I actually almost went to Shawnee, OK a few weeks ago to see her fight. I thought it would have been therapeutic to see her get her ass whooped.
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Originally Posted by Blu-ray-collect
I don't feel so bad about how many times I've given my money to Lucas. Lots have spent more. However, I do have to confess to buying an LD import of "The Phantom Menace". Okay, I bought 2, and kept one in the shrinkwrap thinking it might be worth something someday. That, I feel really dumb about. At the time, no one knew if SW would ever be put out on DVD. I should have known Lucas' greed would prevail.
So you're saying he never should have released anything on dvd?
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Originally Posted by pinata242
True or not, that's a horrendous "PR" move. She should be smacked and told not to comment again, especially if she's going to talk shit about the people that allowed her lifestyle and to be so out-of-touch.

Eventually those people won't buy it, though. Look at me, for instance. I had it pre-ordered and I cancelled it because it doesn't do anything for me.

Then again, I'd like to believe you can't keep piling the same shit on people AND tell them they should love it. Apparently that's not true.
Well, she was raised by Lucas and not the internet so her opinion isn't so surprising. I like to believe that eventually those people won't buy it... but I don't. Just look at this thread's post count, see how so many people "have" to spend $40 more for the whole saga so they do not lose any extra content and see how it's ranked #2 on Amazon.

As for me, I haven't pre-ordered it and have no intentions to buy it.
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Originally Posted by Jumpman
Hot damn!

And the Lucas BS is Lucas re-structuring the Saga with the addition of the Prequels. Yes, at a time, it was about Luke Skywalker. Now, it's about the Skywalker Family with Anakin as the figure head.

If you don't watch the Prequels and only watch the Originals, it's about Luke. When watched together, not so much anymore...and that's okay.
There was a 'Jumpman' who posted on TFN, is this the same person? If so, you are one of those 'Lucas defenders' that drive me crazy, especially during the OOT debate of 2006. I remember you once admitted that you were happy Lucas was putting out a crappy product to fans like me.
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
Personally, I thought her tweets were funny and showed she actually was in touch with the divisive nature of hardcore fandom.
But the internet is about 1% of SW fans, thats where she doesn't understand and is totally generalizing both fanbases.

I have a bunch of friends who love SW, and have NEVER posted on a SW site. They don't hate Lucas like many who post, and dont' worship his every move like others post. They love the OOT, didn't care for the PT, didn't care for the SE, and they don't analyze it like we do. Some will buy the set, others won't, but it wont be because of venom towards her father. They look at SW the same way they look at the Alien Boxset, or Lord of the Rings Boxset, if its appealing, they'll buy it, if its the same old recycled stuff, probably take a pass.

She needs to understand when someone is an director, actor, athlete, politican, etc, there will be people that love em and people that hate em, and thats is just a fact of life.
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As for me, I haven't pre-ordered it and have no intentions to buy it.
Then why post in the thread? It's certainly your right to post. But as you said, I don't believe people when they claim they won't buy it. They will, otherwise they would show no interest in this thread. So I don't believe you Popcorn.

People will come on here and say they won't buy it, but then they'll go out and buy it. I'm buying it for no other reason than to have the original trilogy(I know the argument) on Blu-Ray, and to have the complete set, warts and all.
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Originally Posted by mcnabb
She needs to understand when someone is an director, actor, athlete, politican, etc, there will be people that love em and people that hate em, and thats is just a fact of life.
Um, isn't that point addressed by the "Haters gonna hate" doctrine?
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I've realized what I hate about the Complete Saga artwork. Little Anakin was never at the Lars Homestead...it just doesn't make sense...and why is Luke turning his back to us? Kind of like how Lucas is turning his back on fans of the "original" movies.

As far as the Prequels artwork, I think Yoda overpowers the whole thing. Plus they've made everyone else green to blend in with Yoda. At least on the original trilogy artwork, the characters look pretty much to have their normal color. It did take me awhile to find the closeup of Luke within Vader's face though.
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There will literally be HUNDREDS of custom case designs floating around once this set hits - I'm sure many of them will be gorgeous, so to me it's ridiculous to NOT buy this set based on artwork alone.
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There will literally be HUNDREDS of custom case designs floating around once this set hits - I'm sure many of them will be gorgeous, so to me it's ridiculous to NOT buy this set based on artwork alone.
I know. I shouldn't bitch so much about packaging; some of us collectors are like that. I'll probably put each movie in its own Blu case. I'm still looking for thin covers with original movie artwork to replace the Star Trek Blu sets.
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Several questions:

-Are there any details about restoration of the OT? Will it be the same Lowrey digital restoration from 2004?

-Will there be a corresponding DVD release, or is this strictly Blu Ray only? If so will the current DVD's stay in print? For that matter is the box set with Empire of Dreams OOP?

-The clincher for me that will decide if I buy this or not is the deleted scenes content for the OT. Is that ROTJ cave scene going to be included? ESB Wampa scenes? I want all the deleted SW scenes from that CD-Rom. If those are on there (in better quality) I'm all in.

I have an 84" screen and projector in a dedicated HT room and I'm still on the fence about buying this. BluRay provides an enhanced picture, but if the picture is still as "problematic" as the 2004 DVD's I don't think any enhancement will matter. 1080i of a restoration that fucks up the colors isn't an upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Then why post in the thread? It's certainly your right to post. But as you said, I don't believe people when they claim they won't buy it. They will, otherwise they would show no interest in this thread.
I read/post in threads on products I don't buy all the time; just ask the people in the iPhone threads.

There's a difference in the level of interest a person can have in something. They can be interested enough to monitor threads about the films and their various media releases, but not interested enough to buy every media release of the film. It's not a strict either/or choice of either buy every new release or not be interested in the films at all.

For the record, I'm not buying this set.
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I've realized what I hate about the Complete Saga artwork. Little Anakin was never at the Lars Homestead...it just doesn't make sense...and why is Luke turning his back to us? Kind of like how Lucas is turning his back on fans of the "original" movies.
To me, the "Complete Saga" artwork is clearly meant as a callback to this iconic image from the first film:


While also combining with the original prequel teaser poster:



To do so, they moved Luke to the foreground of the image, and placed Anakin next to him. It sounded somewhat nifty when it was thought to be a lenticular image (maybe the Lars homestead could've faded out as well as Luke). As a composite image, it has some issues.
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Originally Posted by Mabuse
Several questions:

-Are there any details about restoration of the OT? Will it be the same Lowrey digital restoration from 2004?

-Will there be a corresponding DVD release, or is this strictly Blu Ray only? If so will the current DVD's stay in print? For that matter is the box set with Empire of Dreams OOP?

-The clincher for me that will decide if I buy this or not is the deleted scenes content for the OT. Is that ROTJ cave scene going to be included? ESB Wampa scenes? I want all the deleted SW scenes from that CD-Rom. If those are on there (in better quality) I'm all in.

I have an 84" screen and projector in a dedicated HT room and I'm still on the fence about buying this. BluRay provides an enhanced picture, but if the picture is still as "problematic" as the 2004 DVD's I don't think any enhancement will matter. 1080i of a restoration that fucks up the colors isn't an upgrade.
what scene are you referring to specifically - you mean the sandstorm scene? I only ask because I swear I thought the TV cut of the film had a scene during the Rancor fight, where Luke leaps up to the grill in attempts to escape only to have his hands stepped on by one of the guards
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Originally Posted by Xander
I have mixed feelings about the cover art, but it's not going to stop me from owning the whole saga on Blu-ray.

Hmmm....let me take count here:

1. 1990-ish VHS version
2. 1995 THX VHS version
3. 1997 special edition VHS version
4. 2000 Malaysian bootleg DVD version
5. 2004 complete saga DVD version
6. 2011 complete saga Blu-ray version

That's not so bad, right?
interesting.

for me, I bought the Japanese laserdisc of IV, V, and VI (the edits before the release of the 'special editions')
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Then why post in the thread? It's certainly your right to post. But as you said, I don't believe people when they claim they won't buy it. They will, otherwise they would show no interest in this thread. So I don't believe you Popcorn.
Actually, I have many friends who boycotted the 2006 OOT Non-Anamorphic DVD's. Terrell, I used to think like you did that anything Lucas put out, fans would buy because....it's Star Wars! And there will always be a base of fans that will buy his stuff no matter the quality (hence you said you will buy it warts and all.) As I think this release will sell because the fanbase is so huge.

And the big x-factor that nobody is talking about is that ALOT of people still dont' have BluRay players like most of my friends, so I can say for sure they won't be buying any SW BluRay release
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1) OT Individual VHS releases (sold long ago)
2) OT "Faces" VHS box set (sold long ago)
3) SE VHS box set (sold long ago)
4) TPM DVD
5) AotC DVD (Gift)
6) Droids/Ewoks/Ewok Movies (Gifts)
7) Original Clone Wars Series Vol. 1 (Gift)
8) Original Clone Wars Series Vol. 2 (Gift)
9) RofS DVD (Gift)
10) Empire of Dreams documentary (bought used)
11) OT DVD Set with Original Uncut films

I stopped buying Star Wars stuff after AotC but people still loved to gift them to me. I guess it's an easy target. I surprised most of them when I never saw RotS in theaters. Eventually I went from Irrational Tantrum Hating Ex-Star Wars Fan (after AotC) to not really caring either way anymore. The last thing I bought new was the OT Uncut Bonus release (the Best Buy tin exclusive). I have no intention of buying the Blu-Rays (or 3D versions) but would love to pick up The Clone Wars animated series on Blu when they drop in price. I love that series.
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6) Droids/Ewoks/Ewok Movies (Gifts)
Crap, I forgot to include those on my list, perhaps because I haven't watched them.

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I have no intention of buying the Blu-Rays (or 3D versions) but would love to pick up The Clone Wars animated series on Blu when they drop in price. I love that series.
These were around $25 earlier this year on RightStuf and Amazon, I think.
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Crap, I forgot to include those on my list, perhaps because I haven't watched them.
I forgot to add R2-D2: Beneath The Dome and Star Wars: A Musical Journey to my list (Gifts). If Hardware Wars counts, I bought that one.


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These were around $25 earlier this year on RightStuf and Amazon, I think.
Dammit! I need to keep better track.


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