wes anderson is highly overrated...
08-01-02, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by badger1997
And if you want to talk overrated, let's talk about Guy Ritchie and Kevin Smith, two directors you seem to champion in your post. Ritchie has made the same movie twice more or less and even though I liked Snatch ok, I fail to see what the big deal is about him. Ditto Smith. I like Kevin Smith's movies and own them all, but if anybody is overrated around here it is Smith because many of the film geeks here would gladly literally kiss Smith's buttocks.
But that's just my opinion. And my other opinion is Magnolia was a great movie and it comes back to me all the time. I didn't find the characters "one-dimensional" or the movie "bloated." I connected with the characters and thought it was beautifully acted and directed.
And if you want to talk overrated, let's talk about Guy Ritchie and Kevin Smith, two directors you seem to champion in your post. Ritchie has made the same movie twice more or less and even though I liked Snatch ok, I fail to see what the big deal is about him. Ditto Smith. I like Kevin Smith's movies and own them all, but if anybody is overrated around here it is Smith because many of the film geeks here would gladly literally kiss Smith's buttocks.
But that's just my opinion. And my other opinion is Magnolia was a great movie and it comes back to me all the time. I didn't find the characters "one-dimensional" or the movie "bloated." I connected with the characters and thought it was beautifully acted and directed.
Ritchie will too. There is no question that Lock, Stock and Snatch are cut from the same cloth. But that's like criticising Sam Raimi because Evil Dead 2 is a lot like Evil Dead. Ritchie's films are the most stylish caper flicks to come out recently, and likely will remain so for the forseeable future, unless Tarantino comes up with something. Hopefully, Ritchie will go in a different direction on his next film, and hopefully, he won't cast his wife in a major role.
As for "Magnolia," I'm glad you enjoyed it.
08-01-02, 10:12 AM
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Ritchie will too. There is no question that Lock, Stock and Snatch are cut from the same cloth. But that's like criticising Sam Raimi because Evil Dead 2 is a lot like Evil Dead. Ritchie's films are the most stylish caper flicks to come out recently, and likely will remain so for the forseeable future, unless Tarantino comes up with something. Hopefully, Ritchie will go in a different direction on his next film, and hopefully, he won't cast his wife in a major role.
Ritchie will too. There is no question that Lock, Stock and Snatch are cut from the same cloth. But that's like criticising Sam Raimi because Evil Dead 2 is a lot like Evil Dead. Ritchie's films are the most stylish caper flicks to come out recently, and likely will remain so for the forseeable future, unless Tarantino comes up with something. Hopefully, Ritchie will go in a different direction on his next film, and hopefully, he won't cast his wife in a major role.
08-01-02, 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by ScandalUMD
Ritchie will too. There is no question that Lock, Stock and Snatch are cut from the same cloth. But that's like criticising Sam Raimi because Evil Dead 2 is a lot like Evil Dead. Ritchie's films are the most stylish caper flicks to come out recently, and likely will remain so for the forseeable future, unless Tarantino comes up with something. Hopefully, Ritchie will go in a different direction on his next film, and hopefully, he won't cast his wife in a major role.
Ritchie will too. There is no question that Lock, Stock and Snatch are cut from the same cloth. But that's like criticising Sam Raimi because Evil Dead 2 is a lot like Evil Dead. Ritchie's films are the most stylish caper flicks to come out recently, and likely will remain so for the forseeable future, unless Tarantino comes up with something. Hopefully, Ritchie will go in a different direction on his next film, and hopefully, he won't cast his wife in a major role.
However, I also hated Magnolia and think that PT Anderson needs someone to rein him in. Am I the only one who thinks Hard Eight was his best film? Boogie Nights was bloated, and Magnolia was a behemoth of a film. The man is far too in love with his own work and that makes for bad editing. Hopefully Punch Drunk Love will restore my faith in him.
As for Wes Anderson, he's been nursing a visual style that I felt only came to full fruition with Royal Tenenbaums. As such, you can see a similar style running through all three of his films, but I don't think they're the same at all. You don't get the same feeling watching Bottle Rocket that you do watching Rushmore, and you don't get the same feeling watching Rushmore that you do watching The Royal Tenenbaums. The characters, situations, and emotions are different in all three films and I think Wes has shown a lot of versatility in this area.
08-01-02, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by chess
seems like they are quirky for the sake of being quirky.
seems like they are quirky for the sake of being quirky.
08-01-02, 01:43 PM
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but i liked his other films...why would i hate this one???????
but i liked his other films...why would i hate this one???????
or whatever you fratboys like these days.
08-01-02, 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by boobietheclown
because there wasnt a dave matthews band or pat green song in it...???
or whatever you fratboys like these days.
because there wasnt a dave matthews band or pat green song in it...???
or whatever you fratboys like these days.
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08-05-02, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by fratboy187
i like my user name just fine, thank you
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Tenenbaums rule. Magnolia sucks.
08-05-02, 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by ScandalUMD
Tenenbaums rule. Magnolia sucks.
Tenenbaums rule. Magnolia sucks.
Well, ok, so RT didn't suck, but it did almost put me to sleep and I found very little actual humor in it. As others have said, it seemed very quirky for the sake of being quirky, and I just didn't enjoy it. I like Rushmore a little more, but I've never loved it either. Haven't seen Bottle Rocket.
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I dont understand how you guys can think The Royal Tenenbaums isn't mainstream. Its the number 2 DVD rental and number 4 VHS rental for last week. It's the 5th best DVD seller and it made over 50 million at the box office. It played at many of the megaplexes in my area and when I went to see it the theater was packed. What does it take to be mainstream?
08-06-02, 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by JonTurner
As others have said, it seemed very quirky for the sake of being quirky, and I just didn't enjoy it.
As others have said, it seemed very quirky for the sake of being quirky, and I just didn't enjoy it.
08-06-02, 05:50 PM
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I loved Bottle Rocket and Rushmore but Royal Tenenbaums was boring and un-eventful experience for me. I didn’t like any of the characters in the film and I left the theatre feeling as jaded and moody as the Tennebaum family themselves.
I love intelligent comedies and intelligent humor but I don’t know who he was aiming this film at.
Wayyyy overrated.
Just because Criterion distributed a version doesn’t mean its good.
I love intelligent comedies and intelligent humor but I don’t know who he was aiming this film at.
Wayyyy overrated.
Just because Criterion distributed a version doesn’t mean its good.
08-06-02, 06:17 PM
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I dont understand how you guys can think The Royal Tenenbaums isn't mainstream. Its the number 2 DVD rental and number 4 VHS rental for last week. It's the 5th best DVD seller and it made over 50 million at the box office. It played at many of the megaplexes in my area and when I went to see it the theater was packed. What does it take to be mainstream?
I dont understand how you guys can think The Royal Tenenbaums isn't mainstream. Its the number 2 DVD rental and number 4 VHS rental for last week. It's the 5th best DVD seller and it made over 50 million at the box office. It played at many of the megaplexes in my area and when I went to see it the theater was packed. What does it take to be mainstream?
08-06-02, 07:10 PM
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Just because Criterion distributed a version doesn’t mean its good.
Just because Criterion distributed a version doesn’t mean its good.
08-07-02, 04:12 PM
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I'll try not to get off on a rant here....
Once upon a time I considered myself a "film buff" but found that I did not like the crowd that identified themselfs as such. In my ripe old age of 36 I've discovered that there are only two types of movies. Ones I like and ones I dont. I've also discovered that people either "get" certain movies or they dont. It is completely possible to "get" a movie and still not like it.
Wes Anderson was unknown to me. Generally, I do not go to movies based on who directs it (or who stars in it for that matter) I generally go to movies that look like they will interest me.
Rushmore was such a movie. You either get it or you dont. I think "I got it" and loved the movie. I definately agree that Anderson was able to create a signature "feel" to his movies. Its hard to describe, but I find them to be very warm and comfortable.
Tennebaums I bought blind on DVD. I watched it with my wife and she just kind of shrugged when it was over. I have to admit not liking it as much as Rushmore, but I liked it none the less. I have a feeling that after I have watched it a few more times I will like it more.
Oh, and one last thing...
Gene Hackman has to be one of the greatest actors to ever draw a breath....
Once upon a time I considered myself a "film buff" but found that I did not like the crowd that identified themselfs as such. In my ripe old age of 36 I've discovered that there are only two types of movies. Ones I like and ones I dont. I've also discovered that people either "get" certain movies or they dont. It is completely possible to "get" a movie and still not like it.
Wes Anderson was unknown to me. Generally, I do not go to movies based on who directs it (or who stars in it for that matter) I generally go to movies that look like they will interest me.
Rushmore was such a movie. You either get it or you dont. I think "I got it" and loved the movie. I definately agree that Anderson was able to create a signature "feel" to his movies. Its hard to describe, but I find them to be very warm and comfortable.
Tennebaums I bought blind on DVD. I watched it with my wife and she just kind of shrugged when it was over. I have to admit not liking it as much as Rushmore, but I liked it none the less. I have a feeling that after I have watched it a few more times I will like it more.
Oh, and one last thing...
Gene Hackman has to be one of the greatest actors to ever draw a breath....
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liquid sky...riiiiiiiiiiiight.
i read the back of the rt jacket the other evening, it even states that the movie is hilarious...style wise, i don't mind anderson, he just didn't seem to tell a story that went anywhere...characters from every end of the spectrum, but, it just didn't seem to fit quite right.
i read the back of the rt jacket the other evening, it even states that the movie is hilarious...style wise, i don't mind anderson, he just didn't seem to tell a story that went anywhere...characters from every end of the spectrum, but, it just didn't seem to fit quite right.
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I think Wes Anderson is the only director today that makes comedies that seem like something that you might actually see. They are realistic but quirky in sense that, you have a story that nobody else has because they seem odd but not far fetched. They are stories you tell to friends and family. My life could be a Wes Anderson film so it seems so far so maybe that is how I relate.
I, too, loved Magnolia, Chasing Amy, Snatch, and The Royal Tenenbaums. I think Keven Smith is the only director that is overrated for he is a good writer, not a director.
I, too, loved Magnolia, Chasing Amy, Snatch, and The Royal Tenenbaums. I think Keven Smith is the only director that is overrated for he is a good writer, not a director.
Im with this guy!
08-08-02, 12:51 PM
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fratboy187....sorry. My comment was unfair. I apologize.
I really loved this film. It's the first film that I have actually liked Gwynneth Paltrow in. I guess I'm just a fan of "off kilter" humor. I loved "Bottle Rocket" as well.
I really loved this film. It's the first film that I have actually liked Gwynneth Paltrow in. I guess I'm just a fan of "off kilter" humor. I loved "Bottle Rocket" as well.
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when you speak of "off kilter" humor, i think more along the lines of american psycho, grosse pointe blank, and happiness.
i liked snatch the first time i saw it when it was called lock, stock and two smoking barrels.
i liked snatch the first time i saw it when it was called lock, stock and two smoking barrels.