Rockmjd23

They definitely should have had more intrigue within the Jedi, and not made them this uniform like-minded group of uninteresting people.

PhantomStranger

Lucas should have come up with a different idea in how to integrate the Jedi Order into overall society and the Republic's armies. It ended up being very hackneyed and unworkable in my opinion as we saw it in the Prequels.

EddieMoney

Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Lucas fucked these up supremely, and they are pieces of shit. There's a million things he could have done differently, but the same applies to Bucky Larson.

Sean O'Hara

Unfortunately, as much as fans love ESB, Lucas blames the dark tone for why it didn't do as well at the box office as the rest of the OT. There was no way he ever would've risked his fortune on another film like that.

Rob V

Bucky Larson was a piece of fuck... and way better than the PT.

Dr. DVD

The Clone Wars cartoons ? Yeah. I'll give you that. However, Labyrinth of Evil and the original Clone Wars cartoon were written with ROTS and both were released in their entirety about three months before the movie.

Dr. DVD

Also, discussions like this are getting be very much . We all have our ideas as to how the PT should have gone, they all would have most likely been better than what GL gave us, but they're over and nothing can change that. Not us, not JJ Abrams, not anyone. It's like we're using these internet forums to vent about stuff no one in the general populace really gives a shit about.

Rockmjd23

It was already "after the fact" before ROTS came out, since they didn't move it along in AOTC at all. Surely such an important plot point shouldn't be relegated to books and cartoons.

Rockmjd23

You're right, most of the general public just felt the prequels were garbage and wanted nothing more to do with them.

Dr. DVD

Don't know if this is in sarcasm or not. I do believe the general public felt they were garbage, but yet if they are universally hated, how did they all perform so well? I personally think that a lot of people didn't truly start to dislike the PT until they were all done and had time to reflect and think.

Rockmjd23

They performed well because they are Star Wars. They are event movies.

Michael Corvin

Where in the OT is it mentioned that Anakin lived on Tatooine? For all we know Lars and Anakin could have been from another planet and one or both moved there later. Maybe Lars & Beru settled on Tatooine for their Honeymoon and just never went back home? Maybe the allure of the moisture farmer life was too great to return back home.

It's just silly that this supposed backwater desert planet just happens to be the hub of the galaxy.

So like I said, it's just lazy. There's no reason Anakin needed to hail from Tatooine. It just makes either Yoda & Obi-Wan look like morons for hiding Luke there or Vader an idiot for not looking there first.

duff beer

Our microcosm of film interest message boarders might hate em but the average dumbfuck American thought it was probably a good time passer i bet.

Obi-Wanma

Isn't that what the internet is for?

hanshotfirst1138

Last time I checked. Why, does it actually serve some useful purpose?

DaveyJoe

Hardcore pornography.

PhantomStranger

I thought it made Obi-Wan look like an idiot for keeping Luke on Tatooine. I guess Lucas was too busy to create another planet in the Star Wars mythology. He seemed dead-set on including characters and familiar references from the Original Trilogy in the Prequels.

mcnabb

I think once Episode 7 comes out, or we start getting trailers, released photo's on the set, and interviews from the cast, the PT talk will disappear.

I don't think the post-ST conversations will not be as passionate as the post-PT conversations simply because most fans (like myself and my friends) are going in with zero expectations for this new trilogy. I think that most fans will leave Episode 7 pleasantly suprised (if it is a good film) or reserved to the fact that they are no better then the PT (if its an average or bad film).

TGM

if it is more of an adult tone, which it will be, the ST will HAVE to be better than the PT.

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spainlinx0

I doubt it. Other than the OT fans who hate the prequels, does anyone even talk about them? Are they brought up in conversation except to mock them? I don't hear people who aren't into Star Wars ever even bring them up as good action movies.

PhantomStranger

Expectations are so low that I think Abrams will deliver a crowd-pleasing Star Wars film. If he avoids most of the issues that people hated so much about the Prequels, fans will want it to succeed. The toys and merchandise continue to be huge sellers, despite most adult fans despising the Prequels.

Brack

Eh, Episode III felt like a true Star Wars film. Less plot and more action and character driven than the other two. I think it was a mistake to do prequels. George Lucas seemed too fixated on trying to shoehorn the prequels into the SW universe that he forgot these movies were supposed to be fun. Even Empire, the "dark" one, had its lighter, fun moments. There was also a lack of friendships in the prequels, and thus less people to root for or care about.

I'll see the new Star Wars, and it could be good because no one is worried about the PT or OT anymore. The new ones can focus on fun and adventure, which is what Star Wars is at heart.

GoldenJCJ

Hasn't Abrams already stated that they will use models instead of CGI? That's already a step in the right direction for fans. Bringing back the original cast, while I could take them or leave them in the new film, has made fans happy as well.

Even before one second of the movie has been filmed Abrams seems to be trying to get fans back in his corner.

hanshotfirst1138

And he's shooting 35mm again, which I admit, engenders him a lot of good will from my corner. Whether he'll ACTUALLY use less CG, we'll see, but it seems clear to me that he's going out of the way to get the old fanbase on his side. Now there's just one more thing I'D like to happen....