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X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
#101
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I don't think they should let Singer do another X-Men movie.
Not sure about Kinberg. He wanted to write a Dark Phenix story for th next one... but I think that might be rushing things as Turner just came in as the new Jean.
Not sure about Kinberg. He wanted to write a Dark Phenix story for th next one... but I think that might be rushing things as Turner just came in as the new Jean.
#102
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I guess they'd have to incorporate Dark Phoenix and Sinister? They'll have to introduce Sinister either way. Too bad this timeline won't have Apocalypse grating Sinister's powers like he did in the comic (one of the many interpretations).
EDIT - not Dark Phoenix but Madeline Pryor. Then again, I guess they can do Dark Phoenix if they wanted to.
EDIT - not Dark Phoenix but Madeline Pryor. Then again, I guess they can do Dark Phoenix if they wanted to.
#103
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I'd be down with a Dark Phoenix story if it meant taking the X-Men to space like Kinberg (?) once mentioned. Or more appropriately, do Phoenix but save Dark Phoenix for another story/movie.
#104
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Caught this this afternoon and it was serviceable, but the worst X-men movie by Singer. Magneto's life is so exaggeratedly, melodramatically tragic that it was unintentionally hilarious when a soldier accidentally killed both his wife and daughter with a single, didn't-aim-or-even-mean-to-shoot-it arrow. Apocalypse was fine except for the fact that his powers were ridiculously inconsistent. That is, when it suits the plot, he can easily will people to death, but when more drama/action is needed, he becomes far less powerful. From the earlier scenes in the movie, the climatic battle should've just been 1) X-men show up, 2) Apocalypse looks at them and they all fall down dead, 3) Apocalypse jumps into Professor X's body and kills the world. Another big eye roll was the fact that the characters specifically point out they can't use their powers in the helicopter, but somehow when it arrives at Alkali Lake, the soldiers don't notice the three stowaways. Just lazy, crappy writing both in minor plot points and dialog (e.g. you're in my house now!). Anyway, Quicksilver was fun and most of the cast did a good job, but it's definitely time for Singer to hand over the reins to someone who can breathe some life into the franchise.
#105
#106
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Caught this this afternoon and it was serviceable, but the worst X-men movie by Singer. Magneto's life is so exaggeratedly, melodramatically tragic that it was unintentionally hilarious when a soldier accidentally killed both his wife and daughter with a single, didn't-aim-or-even-mean-to-shoot-it arrow. Apocalypse was fine except for the fact that his powers were ridiculously inconsistent. That is, when it suits the plot, he can easily will people to death, but when more drama/action is needed, he becomes far less powerful. From the earlier scenes in the movie, the climatic battle should've just been 1) X-men show up, 2) Apocalypse looks at them and they all fall down dead, 3) Apocalypse jumps into Professor X's body and kills the world. Another big eye roll was the fact that the characters specifically point out they can't use their powers in the helicopter, but somehow when it arrives at Alkali Lake, the soldiers don't notice the three stowaways. Just lazy, crappy writing both in minor plot points and dialog (e.g. you're in my house now!). Anyway, Quicksilver was fun and most of the cast did a good job, but it's definitely time for Singer to hand over the reins to someone who can breathe some life into the franchise.
He did that only to the humans. I don't think he could do it to all of those mutants at once. Then the movie would be over, too.
#107
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I never quite got the nature of Apoc's powers. In particular, the business of him fusing them into walls, -that's what it seems to be, -but other times it just seems like he's covered them with a layer of plaster and them can be pulled free.
#108
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Saw it today. What a load of shit. Taken out of context there were some nice ideas/moments/performances, but as a movie Apocalypse is a complete an utter failure. It was worse than I ever could have imagined. I feel dirty for having defended Singer in the other thread. I'd rather watch The Last Stand. At least it's 40 minutes shorter.
#110
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Saw this last night and I agree with what seems to be the general consensus that it had some good set pieces and individual performances, but was generally let down by poor writing both in dialog and plot. It was enjoyable overall, but a couple of moments took me out of it.
First, the single arrow double kill. It was so contrived, which can be fine if it's sold right, but Singer didn't here. The guy who fired the arrow looked like he was barely drawing the bow back, and there were barely any shots establishing the bowmen drawing down on Magneto and family, building tension for the scene. Most of the cops seemed to be just standing around.
Second was the Wolverine scene where he was being sprayed down with machine guns without any blood/damage. I get that it's PG-13, but if you can't show gore then don't show full frontal shots of Wolverine getting a machine gun to the face. It just looks silly, like someone forgot to finish the CGI for the scene.
First, the single arrow double kill. It was so contrived, which can be fine if it's sold right, but Singer didn't here. The guy who fired the arrow looked like he was barely drawing the bow back, and there were barely any shots establishing the bowmen drawing down on Magneto and family, building tension for the scene. Most of the cops seemed to be just standing around.
Second was the Wolverine scene where he was being sprayed down with machine guns without any blood/damage. I get that it's PG-13, but if you can't show gore then don't show full frontal shots of Wolverine getting a machine gun to the face. It just looks silly, like someone forgot to finish the CGI for the scene.
#111
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
You people make me not even want to see this movie. And yet, when I look at the poll results, the 4-stars have the majority votes. I'm confused. Are the people who actually liked this movie not posting in this thread?
#112
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Fox is apologizing for this billboard ad. Turns out people found it in poor taste. Can't imagine why.
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#113
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Maybe if it had Johnny Depp in it...
#114
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Is it because people are progressively over sensitive?
#115
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
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#116
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Saw this last night and I agree with what seems to be the general consensus that it had some good set pieces and individual performances, but was generally let down by poor writing both in dialog and plot. It was enjoyable overall, but a couple of moments took me out of it.
First, the single arrow double kill. It was so contrived, which can be fine if it's sold right, but Singer didn't here. The guy who fired the arrow looked like he was barely drawing the bow back, and there were barely any shots establishing the bowmen drawing down on Magneto and family, building tension for the scene. Most of the cops seemed to be just standing around.
Second was the Wolverine scene where he was being sprayed down with machine guns without any blood/damage. I get that it's PG-13, but if you can't show gore then don't show full frontal shots of Wolverine getting a machine gun to the face. It just looks silly, like someone forgot to finish the CGI for the scene.
First, the single arrow double kill. It was so contrived, which can be fine if it's sold right, but Singer didn't here. The guy who fired the arrow looked like he was barely drawing the bow back, and there were barely any shots establishing the bowmen drawing down on Magneto and family, building tension for the scene. Most of the cops seemed to be just standing around.
Second was the Wolverine scene where he was being sprayed down with machine guns without any blood/damage. I get that it's PG-13, but if you can't show gore then don't show full frontal shots of Wolverine getting a machine gun to the face. It just looks silly, like someone forgot to finish the CGI for the scene.
Unless they restore the blood for an unrated release like they did for The Wolverine. IDK. You actually do see the hole being punched in but his healing factor is going to work, so I didn't mind not seeing blood. There wouldn't be that much blood anyway.
#117
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
There was no option for 3.75 stars. Most of the votes are well under 4 star ratings. There was plenty to like. I think the deserved negativity is that the X-Men franchise has simply ran out of ideas at this point. How many times are we going to have discrimination as the center of the X-Men, and not just a backdrop? How many times are we supposed to be in awe of Cerebro?. There is really nothing new to see in this one. The idea of standalone films wasn't bad, but Fox screwed up with the first Wolverine movie and simply gave up. It'd be like giving up after The Uncredible Hulk disappointed at the box office.
#118
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
There was no option for 3.75 stars. Most of the votes are well under 4 star ratings. There was plenty to like. I think the deserved negativity is that the X-Men franchise has simply ran out of ideas at this point. How many times are we going to have discrimination as the center of the X-Men, and not just a backdrop? How many times are we supposed to be in awe of Cerebro?. There is really nothing new to see in this one. The idea of standalone films wasn't bad, but Fox screwed up with the first Wolverine movie and simply gave up. It'd be like giving up after The Uncredible Hulk disappointed at the box office.
One random thing: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did this movie just blatantly ignore the ending of DoFP where Mystique fishes Wolverine out of the river posing as Stryker? Why even do that ending if you don't have a follow up to it?
#119
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
You are correct sir. Somehow he just ended up with the real Striker anyway.
#120
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Yup, I mentioned that earlier too.
Seems like they just wanted to get cute with the Mystique eye hint like they have before in previous movies and didn't really think of how they wanted that to proceed. Things like that have been my biggest disappointment... FOX and company doesn't seem to really have a solid plan on what to do from movie to movie, rather just have a couple of ideas and not much more.
Seems like they just wanted to get cute with the Mystique eye hint like they have before in previous movies and didn't really think of how they wanted that to proceed. Things like that have been my biggest disappointment... FOX and company doesn't seem to really have a solid plan on what to do from movie to movie, rather just have a couple of ideas and not much more.
#121
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Seriously, this movie can just go to hell. Singer and company were hyping Apocalypse even before DoFP was released and yet somehow they didn't have enough time (or interest) to write themselves out of that particular corner. I guess it was more important to have Stryker raid the mansion and kidnap students *again* because as we all know from watching these movies that after Magneto, Stryker is the greatest X-Men villain of them all and you can't have an X-Men movie without him.
#122
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This was one of my biggest issues with the movie. It just felt like all the same old X-Men stuff we've seen over and over again put into a blender and thrown back at us. For a series that went to pretty great lengths to wipe the continuity slate clean and open up fresh story possibilities with the last movie, X:A felt beyond stale.
One random thing: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did this movie just blatantly ignore the ending of DoFP where Mystique fishes Wolverine out of the river posing as Stryker? Why even do that ending if you don't have a follow up to it?
One random thing: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did this movie just blatantly ignore the ending of DoFP where Mystique fishes Wolverine out of the river posing as Stryker? Why even do that ending if you don't have a follow up to it?
He also shot that DOFP end credit sequence with a "young" Apocalypse yet there was no footage of that in the Apocalypse film. THAT would have been cool to have seen Apocalypse's origin.
#123
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Seriously, this movie can just go to hell. Singer and company were hyping Apocalypse even before DoFP was released and yet somehow they didn't have enough time (or interest) to write themselves out of that particular corner. I guess it was more important to have Stryker raid the mansion and kidnap students *again* because as we all know from watching these movies that after Magneto, Stryker is the greatest X-Men villain of them all and you can't have an X-Men movie without him.
#124
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
So you'd be ok if Stryker just pops in to try and kidnap mutants in every movie for the rest of the series? The only reason he was in Apocalypse was because a.)he was in the other movies, and b.)they couldn't think of any other way to work in a Wolverine cameo.
#125
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (Singer, 2016) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Fox is apologizing for this billboard ad. Turns out people found it in poor taste. Can't imagine why.
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