Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
04-09-21, 04:10 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
This is a very good explanation for this movie. It’s an obvious love letter to the movies and if Tarantino sticks to his “10 movies and then retire” plan, I was kind of surprised that he didn’t save this one until his final film as a send off to Hollywood.
The problem with your explanation (which I think is on-point) is that I sound like a movie snob when I’m trying to explain this movie. I have a friend who loves watching movie but doesn’t get into the filmmaking aspects and movie history as much as me. When I saw this and started singing its praises, I told her to watch it as it was my favorite movie of the year. She came back after seeing it and said she absolutely hated it. My only explanation was that you had to have a better understanding of Hollywood history to thoroughly enjoy the movie. Hell, *I* thought it sounded pretentious coming out of my mouth but I didn’t know how else to describe it.
To me, it helps to know (and be a fan) of Hollywood history as well as the Manson family history. My wife enjoyed it more than my friend but I still had to explain the Spaghetti western stuff, old tv shows, and the true story of the Manson family to her. She didn’t know the real story of Sharon Tate.
Im not saying people on THIS forum don’t “get” the movie because I understand that most of us here are movie fans and movie history fans but if you go in expecting an actual plot driven story to play out, you might be disappointed. For me personally, I enjoyed the experience of being in that time. I spend more time looking around the background of a scene than I do watching what’s happening in the foreground. There’s old movie posters or 1960s “product placement” in almost every shot. I’d even venture so far as to say it’s probably the most historically accurate movie I’ve ever seen as far as the set design.
The problem with your explanation (which I think is on-point) is that I sound like a movie snob when I’m trying to explain this movie. I have a friend who loves watching movie but doesn’t get into the filmmaking aspects and movie history as much as me. When I saw this and started singing its praises, I told her to watch it as it was my favorite movie of the year. She came back after seeing it and said she absolutely hated it. My only explanation was that you had to have a better understanding of Hollywood history to thoroughly enjoy the movie. Hell, *I* thought it sounded pretentious coming out of my mouth but I didn’t know how else to describe it.
To me, it helps to know (and be a fan) of Hollywood history as well as the Manson family history. My wife enjoyed it more than my friend but I still had to explain the Spaghetti western stuff, old tv shows, and the true story of the Manson family to her. She didn’t know the real story of Sharon Tate.
Im not saying people on THIS forum don’t “get” the movie because I understand that most of us here are movie fans and movie history fans but if you go in expecting an actual plot driven story to play out, you might be disappointed. For me personally, I enjoyed the experience of being in that time. I spend more time looking around the background of a scene than I do watching what’s happening in the foreground. There’s old movie posters or 1960s “product placement” in almost every shot. I’d even venture so far as to say it’s probably the most historically accurate movie I’ve ever seen as far as the set design.
I'd argue that telling a good story AND making a love letter to film aren't mutually exclusive.
But this is QT we're talking about, I'm not going to sway any minds.
04-09-21, 04:24 PM
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04-11-21, 06:39 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
I have loved a couple of Tarantino movies and like a couple but I completely HATE his last few. No issue with anyone liking him, but the reasons people are using as to why you should like him make me appreciate his latest movies even less. It's all good. I will just skip his movies in the future.
06-21-21, 02:37 PM
#529
Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Here's the trailer for the book, which contains some unseen scenes from the movie:
https://ew.com/movies/once-upon-a-ti...tin-tarantino/
https://ew.com/movies/once-upon-a-ti...tin-tarantino/
06-21-21, 04:32 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Cool. And it finally answers my question of who the hell the girl on the poster talking on the phone with a "Sock It To Me!" T-shirt is.
I look forward to reading this. Really hope the picture in the ad isn't misleading, and it really is going to be published in just a pocketbook paperback format.
I look forward to reading this. Really hope the picture in the ad isn't misleading, and it really is going to be published in just a pocketbook paperback format.
06-21-21, 04:46 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
06-21-21, 05:45 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
I only have one question after re-watching the movie this past weekend: who was the woman talking to Steve McQueen at the party as he was telling the story of Sebring, Tate, and Polanski?
06-21-21, 05:48 PM
#533
Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Wasn't that Michelle Phillips from The Momma's and The Poppa's?
06-21-21, 05:51 PM
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Girl #1 with him was Michelle Phillips. Girl #2 with him was Connie Stevens.
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06-24-21, 02:35 PM
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06-26-21, 04:20 PM
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I just found out about the paperback from QT's appearance on Bill Maher's show, and I just now put in my order. Looking forward to reading it. It'll be interesting to see what differences there will be between the book and movie, as the novelizations I remember reading back in the 80s often had whole characters and plot points that weren't in the movie.
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06-26-21, 04:24 PM
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I'm intrigued that Tarantino might be including the text he writes for his actors. I think Brad Pitt mentioned it about Inglorious Basterds. He writes significant backstories to help the actors. I think he mentioned it because it explained his throat scar.
06-26-21, 04:36 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
I just found out about the paperback from QT's appearance on Bill Maher's show, and I just now put in my order. Looking forward to reading it. It'll be interesting to see what differences there will be between the book and movie, as the novelizations I remember reading back in the 80s often had whole characters and plot points that weren't in the movie.
06-26-21, 04:42 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Tarantino was on Bill Maher's show threatening to retire again. Why doesn't he just shut the fuck up and go away? It is sad at this point how much he needs interviewers to beg him to continue.
06-26-21, 04:49 PM
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^That's a weird take. He wasn't "threatening" to retire. He was on the show, presumably to promote the book, and Maher asked him about his previous statement about making one more movie and then retiring. Tarantino didn't bring up the subject himself.
06-26-21, 06:17 PM
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I have had the movie on the background a couple times this week. Getting excited for the book. It looks pretty substantial, not some thin short read.
06-26-21, 06:54 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
I hope Tarantino continues to write scripts, but only for Christopher Nolan to direct.
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05-19-23, 04:00 PM
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He lived a good, long life.
05-20-23, 06:27 PM
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There's no way a man who drank and smoked like he did saw his seventies. And there's no way he wasn't divorced from Francesca by 1975.
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05-20-23, 07:42 PM
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^ That was my first thought too. No way he was still married to Francesca.
They barely seemed interested in each other in 1969.
They barely seemed interested in each other in 1969.
05-20-23, 07:54 PM
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05-20-23, 08:00 PM
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Maybe they had an Elizabeth Taylor - Richard Burton sort of thing and got remarried years later?
05-20-23, 08:17 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
Also, for all of us who were wondering just wtf The Fireman Trilogy is that’s being referred to in that obit, I found this in a yahoo! article:
It also seems Tarantino is set to publish another book titled, The Films of Rick Dalton.
In that interview, Tarantino talked about a movie called The Fireman, starring Dalton and stuntman Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt). That imaginary film was set a decade after “Hollywood.”
“The lead character was in the Vietnam War, he became a cop,” said Tarantino. “And then he starts seeing this whole group of bad apple cops that are killing these guys and just completely corrupt and they end up killing his partner, played by a very young Sam Jackson. Then Rick targets these bad cops, and he gets dressed up as the Fireman, and he has his flamethrower and he goes and he burns them all down.”
“The lead character was in the Vietnam War, he became a cop,” said Tarantino. “And then he starts seeing this whole group of bad apple cops that are killing these guys and just completely corrupt and they end up killing his partner, played by a very young Sam Jackson. Then Rick targets these bad cops, and he gets dressed up as the Fireman, and he has his flamethrower and he goes and he burns them all down.”
It also seems Tarantino is set to publish another book titled, The Films of Rick Dalton.
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05-20-23, 09:18 PM
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Re: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (2019, D: Tarantino) S: DiCaprio, Pitt, Robbie
This was an interesting announcement. The continuing of Hollywood as fiction is interesting. Tarantino can do no wrong in my opinion. Hopefully he finishes strong and funny.