Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
#826
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
It seems that the majority of the people that are frothing at the mouth for this and were against the female version weren't even born when the first one was out, so I don't get nostalgia factor when they weren't even around - hell they may not have been around for the sequel either, but Ghostbusters, fuck yeah?
As for people who were really pushing for GB3, that was only Dan Aykroyd. Once in a while he'd talk about trying to get GB3 made and but considering it never seemed to go anywhere for the longest time, makes me think, yeah, die-hard GB fandom wasn't that big of a deal.
According to one video, Sony only started hyping up GB as some big franchise and film universe after a string of losses with the exception of the James Bond and Spider-man films.
I'm a big fan of Ghostbusters myself, but I never wanted a GB3, at least not once the cast started looking old, and that was by the late 90s/early 2000s. I thought it was a bad idea when Sony was trying to use the Feig version to start a whole film universe, with spin-offs and what not.
And StrangerThingsBusters sounds lame. The closest thing we got to a quality GB3 was The Frighteners.
Last edited by brayzie; 01-21-19 at 02:03 AM.
#827
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
However, take into consideration that during the 2016 film, a prominent alt-right sympathizer was saying she was ugly and looked like a man. He was even being interviewed and his insults to Leslie Jones were repeated again and again. Trolls were tweeting hideously racist things to her. So I can see why she's still sore about the whole thing.
And I know her post was crude, but apparently she's not the only one who comes across as sore.
#828
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I'm really not sure how this franchise became that "beloved." Yeah, the first film is great and that's about it. The sequel was mediocre in '89 and it's still mediocre. I think the animated series was great and that's it. I don't care about the female remake - never seen it and don't care to. With Jason Reitman directing the official 3rd film - I don't really care.
I guess I feel the nostalgia is a bit misplaced since there isn't that much to the franchise to begin with. IMO
It seems that the majority of the people that are frothing at the mouth for this and were against the female version weren't even born when the first one was out, so I don't get nostalgia factor when they weren't even around - hell they may not have been around for the sequel either, but Ghostbusters, fuck yeah?
It’s almost as if their rage at the all-female version of Ghostbusters has nothing to do with the movie itself...
As for people who were really pushing for GB3, that was only Dan Aykroyd. Once in a while he'd talk about trying to get GB3 made and but considering it never seemed to go anywhere for the longest time, makes me think, yeah, die-hard GB fandom wasn't that big of a deal.
#829
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
It's sad Leslie Jones can't accept her movie sucked. Go cry to Paul Feig or Amy Pascal.
#830
DVD Talk Hero
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
It's almost as if people still beat the same horse over and over again about how everyone who didn't like the movie had to be sexist. It's pretty ironic that for a guy who keeps desperately trying to defend the remake that he keeps trying to complain about people who didn't like it. But you keep being you.
Here’s the thing - you can dislike the movie because you dislike the movie AND acknowledge that lots of men out there didn’t like it because of the female cast.
Based on the synopsis, this new version sounds worse than the 2016 version. It’ll be interesting to see if it causes the same reactions for trailers and audience scores. My guess is that they will be more in line with reality.
#831
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Cripes people are we really going to drag the drama bullshit from the 2016 film back for round two until this film releases??
#832
DVD Talk Hero
#833
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean. The original films aren’t aimed at kids. Pretty sure you’re just taking cheap shots at fans of the other side. Both sides have been guilty of attacking each other and you aren’t any better for it just because of your social stance (which I largely agree with despite thinking the 2016 film is shit). I stayed out of the original threads mostly as they basically cake down to personal attacks based on different social stances and I’m intending to stay out of this mostly but just saying.
#834
DVD Talk Hero
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean. The original films aren’t aimed at kids. Pretty sure you’re just taking cheap shots at fans of the other side. Both sides have been guilty of attacking each other and you aren’t any better for it just because of your social stance (which I largely agree with despite thinking the 2016 film is shit). I stayed out of the original threads mostly as they basically cake down to personal attacks based on different social stances and I’m intending to stay out of this mostly but just saying.
Last edited by Draven; 01-21-19 at 12:07 PM.
#835
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Ah okay. Admittedly I just poked in here quick to see what was being discussed. I apparently missed the synopsis being posted.
#836
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
We don't know that the kids are the stars. They could simply be part of the paranormal plot. I mean someone could have told you in 1988 that Ghostbusters 2 was going to focus on Dana's baby and a ghost who wanted to possess it, but that didn't mean the original Ghostbusters weren't the stars. Let's wait and see before we start trashing the plot.
#838
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
We don't know that the kids are the stars. They could simply be part of the paranormal plot. I mean someone could have told you in 1988 that Ghostbusters 2 was going to focus on Dana's baby and a ghost who wanted to possess it, but that didn't mean the original Ghostbusters weren't the stars. Let's wait and see before we start trashing the plot.
#839
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I know you're joking but it is, isn't?
I remembered the Junior Ghostbusters as a kid, and liking the episodes that featured them.
When I got older I found out that there's a lot of hate for them, with even from one of the cartoon's writer J. Michael Straczynski.
I remembered the Junior Ghostbusters as a kid, and liking the episodes that featured them.
When I got older I found out that there's a lot of hate for them, with even from one of the cartoon's writer J. Michael Straczynski.
#840
DVD Talk Godfather
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I'm half joking since I find some irony and hypocrisy there, but purposely didn't expand on it to respect dex's wishes to minimize the 2016 Ghostbusters talk Of course, i'm someone who typically doesn't like child actors in movies and am wary of the rumored plot.
#842
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Except that by the time BB2000 came out John Landis had been churning out crap for over a decade and was a shell of his former self. Jason Reitman is still making good movies. Also, I would argue that with what very little information we have, that this project has nothing "written all over it" just yet, let alone anything resembling the Blues Brothers 2000 trainwreck. We know almost nothing about this film yet.
Also, this:
Also, this:
We don't know that the kids are the stars. They could simply be part of the paranormal plot. I mean someone could have told you in 1988 that Ghostbusters 2 was going to focus on Dana's baby and a ghost who wanted to possess it, but that didn't mean the original Ghostbusters weren't the stars. Let's wait and see before we start trashing the plot.
#843
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
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I'm happy to forget about Ghostbusters (2016) but I'm starting to wonder if the anti-neckbeard side was more vocal than the misogyny side. It seems like a convenient narrative was built up to help save a shitty movie. As a very liberal white dude who was born in the 80s, I did not like it being implied that I was sexist for being unenthusiastic about a Paul Feig movie.
I'm happy to forget about Ghostbusters (2016) but I'm starting to wonder if the anti-neckbeard side was more vocal than the misogyny side. It seems like a convenient narrative was built up to help save a shitty movie. As a very liberal white dude who was born in the 80s, I did not like it being implied that I was sexist for being unenthusiastic about a Paul Feig movie.
#844
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Never saw the 2016 Ghostbusters...just wasn't interested in giving it my money and time...but I was always glad to learn it was a complete and separate reboot.(despite the first trailer flat out lying about that) Really looking forward to this... it's a bit unfortunate that the wind was kind of taken out of the IP's sails w the 2016 film... and I suspect there will be all kinds of measuring contests about which film made more $$. But hopefully the budget is modest and we just get a very enjoyable film, the teaser/announcement trailer alone tells me we'll get faithful nods to the originals - score, tone, etc...
#845
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Who’s “desperate”? I have said many times that the 2016 version is fine. Not fantastic, not bad, just fine. I also recognize that the fact that it had an all-female cast sent plenty of men on the internet into a blind rage, as indicated by the wildly disparate audience scores and trailer dislikes when compared to similar movies.
Here’s the thing - you can dislike the movie because you dislike the movie AND acknowledge that lots of men out there didn’t like it because of the female cast.
Based on the synopsis, this new version sounds worse than the 2016 version. It’ll be interesting to see if it causes the same reactions for trailers and audience scores. My guess is that they will be more in line with reality.
1. Reitman isn't stupid. He knows that the fans will have high expectations for it.
2. Reitman isn't stupid. He knows that the franchise has a big following, and he has a personal connection to this movie. He doesn't need to attach his name to this, and I believe that if he didn't feel he had a good take, he would stay far away.
3. I can't see Ivan letting his son do this if he did not think that he had a good concept. He knows there will be even more pressure on him to do it right with it being his son, and if he thought it was bad I bet he would keep him far away.
4. Unlike Feig who was all wrong for the material and only got the job because Amy Pascal was obsessed with getting him, Reitman seems to be a good fit.
So essentially Reitman seems to be doing it for the fact that he has a good take and he seems passionate about it. He won't want to be in his dad's shadow, he knows the pressure is on to relaunch the Ghosbusters brand after the 2016 version was viewed as disappointing and I believe that he at least should get the benefit of the doubt for now.
But I'm done arguing with you about the 2016 version. I'd rather focus on the new one.=left
#846
DVD Talk Hero
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
I found Feig's style of humor was a poor fit in GB2016, but really didn't have much love or hate for it. It just kind of was. But the characters weren't well established or memorable, at all, so a sequel wouldn't really be of much interest for me.
GB3's current synopsis sounds suspect, but I like Reitman and hopefully they know wtf they're doing -- considering the success of IT and Stranger Things, I can see why they think it's a good direction, but it treads a thin line.
GB3's current synopsis sounds suspect, but I like Reitman and hopefully they know wtf they're doing -- considering the success of IT and Stranger Things, I can see why they think it's a good direction, but it treads a thin line.
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re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
reaction from Paul Feig on the new movie
I swear to god. I dont get the backlash. The 2016 movie sucked. Its in its own universe. What is the big deal?
I swear to god. I dont get the backlash. The 2016 movie sucked. Its in its own universe. What is the big deal?
#848
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
reaction from Paul Feig on the new movie
I swear to god. I dont get the backlash. The 2016 movie sucked. Its in its own universe. What is the big deal?
I swear to god. I dont get the backlash. The 2016 movie sucked. Its in its own universe. What is the big deal?
Originally Posted by Paul Feige
An absolute honest to God never ending supply of bullshit and hate from these trolls. Leslie spoke her truth and I support her.
Originally Posted by article
The director behind the 2016 all-female reboot of the movie spoke out on Twitter after his star was attacked for sharing her disappointment about the new Jason Reitman version which would bypass their contribution to the franchise.
Renewed trolling against the actress began after she posted her feelings about the new movie
#849
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Shouldn't never have been another Ghostbusters...nothing can top the original and that cast. But that's what happens when you have no talent, no vision, no new ideas from a lame Hollywood who has now resorted of doing countless remakes...which seem to be piling up and flopping at the Box Office.
#850
DVD Talk Legend
re: Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021, D: Jason Reitman)
Shouldn't never have been another Ghostbusters...nothing can top the original and that cast. But that's what happens when you have no talent, no vision, no new ideas from a lame Hollywood who has now resorted of doing countless remakes...which seem to be piling up and flopping at the Box Office.
I feel like a broken record, but it never needed to be a reboot. Have the remaining old crew pass the torch to the new crew, and go on with it. Feig's insistence on a reboot is the root of many of the issues.