Movies with long sequences that feel like they could be part of a separate movie
03-28-24, 06:44 PM
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I’m guessing Michael Bay wanted to end Pearl Harbor on a somewhat victorious note so he tacked on the entire Doolittle’s Raid sequence at the end, which took place 4 1/2 months after Pearl Harbor.
03-29-24, 06:05 AM
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In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, the time spent with Rick on set for the TV western fits this bill.
Plot-wise, this part of the movie is completely unnecessary, except that it keeps Rick busy for an entire day so that Cliff has the time to go visit the Manson family at the Spahn ranch. So all they had to establish was that Rick had an acting job. Everything Tarantino showed us with Rick on the set was just self-indulgence. [I love Tarantino's self-indulgences.] But we did not learn anything about Rick that was really necessary to the plot. Everything Marvin Schwarz told Rick about his career at the beginning was true, so Rick had the motivation to go to Italy, which was necessary for the time jump at the end.
I guarantee that if Tarantino was forced to deal with studio mandates, they would have insisted that part be almost entirely cut out. But then Leonardo probably would not have taken the part, as without that part of the movie, it really reduced Rick to a supporting character.
Plot-wise, this part of the movie is completely unnecessary, except that it keeps Rick busy for an entire day so that Cliff has the time to go visit the Manson family at the Spahn ranch. So all they had to establish was that Rick had an acting job. Everything Tarantino showed us with Rick on the set was just self-indulgence. [I love Tarantino's self-indulgences.] But we did not learn anything about Rick that was really necessary to the plot. Everything Marvin Schwarz told Rick about his career at the beginning was true, so Rick had the motivation to go to Italy, which was necessary for the time jump at the end.
I guarantee that if Tarantino was forced to deal with studio mandates, they would have insisted that part be almost entirely cut out. But then Leonardo probably would not have taken the part, as without that part of the movie, it really reduced Rick to a supporting character.
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03-29-24, 07:30 AM
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Agreed. Without everything in that shoot Dicaprio is a costar in the movie which isn’t the story QT is telling.
03-29-24, 08:38 AM
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The stage play in Beau Is Afraid definitely felt like a separate film, one that I would've preferred to watch instead of what surrounds it. It was a good break from all the anxiety-inducing stuff and was actually coherent.
Also, the flashback to Angela Mao's character in Enter the Dragon felt like it was taken from another movie. Even though Mao plays Bruce Lee's sister, we never see them together. I don't even remember her having any lines, so the whole thing feels like an afterthought cobbled together to take advantage of the day or two that Mao was available to the production.
Also, the flashback to Angela Mao's character in Enter the Dragon felt like it was taken from another movie. Even though Mao plays Bruce Lee's sister, we never see them together. I don't even remember her having any lines, so the whole thing feels like an afterthought cobbled together to take advantage of the day or two that Mao was available to the production.
03-29-24, 09:11 AM
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Kentucky Fried Movie and "A Fistful of Yen."
03-29-24, 09:26 AM
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Or a separate movie
03-29-24, 09:51 AM
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03-29-24, 10:04 AM
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03-29-24, 11:01 AM
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I still know the first time I watched From Dusk Till Dawn. My parents had a party with their friends and I didn't want to participate, since I was the only teenager. We rented 5 movies for the weekend and I don't remember what the others were, but I instantly fell in love with FDTD and still am.
03-29-24, 11:03 AM
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03-29-24, 11:10 AM
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The Friday the 13th remake had a pre-title sequence which ran for 23 minutes and had very little to do with the rest of the film.
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03-29-24, 11:48 AM
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I'm trying to remember what spoiled it for me, as I saw this in the theater opening weekend (as I was already a huge Tarantino and Rodriguez fan at that point). The advertising campaign or some magazine article? I honestly can't recall, but I knew going in that there was going to be vampires at some point.
In 1996, there were people like me who were completely sold on the movie just knowing that Rodriguez and Tarantino were involved. But for the general public, they have to promote and sell the movie based on what the experience will be, and so they have to reveal what it is about.
For me, the absolute worst example of publicizing too much of the plot of a movie is The Truman Show. Almost all of the enjoyment of watching that movie comes from discovering how Truman realizes what is going on and how that plays out. The fucking trailers reveal everything, including the goddamn ending!
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04-03-24, 12:50 PM
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Maybe this isn’t exactly the point of the thread, but I’m rewatching X-Men: First Class (which I like) and though it does tie into the movie and the character’s motivation, Erik Lehnsherr: Nazi Hunter is the movie I would have loved to have seen
04-03-24, 01:01 PM
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04-03-24, 01:39 PM
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I watched Rollerball (2002), since both of the main podcasts I listen to are covering it within a month of each other.
At the end of the 2nd act of this terrible dystopian, extreme sports movie, there's a 7min night vision sequence where the main characters mostly just have a conversation.
At the end of the 2nd act of this terrible dystopian, extreme sports movie, there's a 7min night vision sequence where the main characters mostly just have a conversation.
04-03-24, 05:00 PM
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