Lost -- "What Kate Did" -- 11.30.2005
12-01-05, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Robertwoj
I'm noticing a theme with displaced fathers/father figures for all the characters. Have all the main characters lost their fathers in some manner?
Jack - father died in Australia
Kate - killed her own father
Sawyer - his father commited suicide
Hurley - grandfather had heart attack (was his father even in his flashbacks?)
Shannon/Boone - again, no father figure...right?
Locke - father used Locke for his transplant - maybe we'll see his ultimate demise yet.
Walt - separated until just before flight 815
Sun - father wrecked her marriage by forcing/bribing Jin into uncomfotable roles.
Jin - denounced his lifestyle as a fisherman and left home
Jack - father died in Australia
Kate - killed her own father
Sawyer - his father commited suicide
Hurley - grandfather had heart attack (was his father even in his flashbacks?)
Shannon/Boone - again, no father figure...right?
Locke - father used Locke for his transplant - maybe we'll see his ultimate demise yet.
Walt - separated until just before flight 815
Sun - father wrecked her marriage by forcing/bribing Jin into uncomfotable roles.
Jin - denounced his lifestyle as a fisherman and left home
12-01-05, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
Didn't they say in Season 1 that Kate was Canadian(just like Evangeline Lilly in real life)? Her biological and surrogate parents all appeared to be American in the flashback though.
12-01-05, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
Didn't they say in Season 1 that Kate was Canadian(just like Evangeline Lilly in real life)? Her biological and surrogate parents all appeared to be American in the flashback though.
12-01-05, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Robertwoj
Shannon/Boone - again, no father figure...right?
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12-01-05, 11:28 AM
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I'm noticing a theme with displaced fathers/father figures for all the characters.
I'm noticing a theme with displaced fathers/father figures for all the characters.
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12-01-05, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Meatpants
After 5 years, Austen decides he's had enough and leaves Kate behind, somehow knowing that this 5 year old has "murder in her heart" and will one day kill her biological father.
Kate: You knew? Why didn't you kill him?
Daddy Austen: Because I don't have murder in my heart.
(or something to that effect)
There was nothing of Daddy Austen saying that he knew Kate had murder in heart as a kid. It was more that he took a shot at her at that moment when they were talking.
12-01-05, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lordzeppelin
I disagree. There's no other computer at the location in the room where he was. It's the Computer that they are not supposed to use for anything but entering the code.
I agree with your disagreement, I think it was the original/only computer.
But, didn't the timer stop counting down? I think thats why Walt or someone, was able to get a message through.
Very good episode.
12-01-05, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson
But, didn't the timer stop counting down? I think thats why Walt or someone, was able to get a message through.
12-01-05, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
Up until this episode, it sure seemed like those 2 were into one another, but with all the baggage about Kate's real father being very much like Sawyer and Kate's whole speech about hating herself for liking Sawyer because he reminds her of his dad, it would seem kind of strange for her to now go ahead and pursue Sawyer anyway. Even if Sawyer softens up, it would seem like he would still be like every bad guy relationship she's ever been in, which probably all goes back to having the abusive, dad.
12-01-05, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Meatpants
Even Anakin's reason for turning Dark Side was better explained than Kate's crime. Do I have this right?
Austen and Mom marry.
Austen goes to Korea.
Mom has affair with Drunk and has Kate.
Austen returns and agrees to raise Kate.
After 5 years, Austen decides he's had enough and leaves Kate behind, somehow knowing that this 5 year old has "murder in her heart" and will one day kill her biological father.
Mom marries Drunk.
And the reason Kate killed Drunk was because once she found out she had drunken wifebeater blood in her, she decided her life was over?
Austen and Mom marry.
Austen goes to Korea.
Mom has affair with Drunk and has Kate.
Austen returns and agrees to raise Kate.
After 5 years, Austen decides he's had enough and leaves Kate behind, somehow knowing that this 5 year old has "murder in her heart" and will one day kill her biological father.
Mom marries Drunk.
And the reason Kate killed Drunk was because once she found out she had drunken wifebeater blood in her, she decided her life was over?
I'm still stuck on "who cut the film?" Could it have been the others, hoping they'd use the PC for internet chat, or maybe an island blog? (OH..I also say it definitely was the main PC as well.)
It sure feels like the writers put in a lil bit for us internet posters. And it usually is Hurley who is involved. Like "didn't see that coming, on island XX days and hasn't lost weight?" Also...we mentioned Jin's bracelet and BAM!..it's off a week or two later. (We know not to mistake coincidence...)
12-01-05, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mittman
No, the timer only counts seconds during the last 4 minutes.
like this: Michael hears the beep... "oh," he thinks, "must be the last 4 minutes." but he looks at the clock and sees 51:00. "whoa, must be something else, then! i better look at the computer!"
12-01-05, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
right, that's how i took it. We were just shown the clock so we could see that it was weird that the computer was beeping. normally it only beeps in the last 4 minutes.
12-01-05, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
I know it would have been somewhat of a cliche to have her have been molested by her father, but at least it would've been believable.
12-01-05, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Crashnburn
No, what was said was...
Kate: You knew? Why didn't you kill him?
Daddy Austen: Because I don't have murder in my heart.
(or something to that effect)
There was nothing of Daddy Austen saying that he knew Kate had murder in heart as a kid. It was more that he took a shot at her at that moment when they were talking.
Kate: You knew? Why didn't you kill him?
Daddy Austen: Because I don't have murder in my heart.
(or something to that effect)
There was nothing of Daddy Austen saying that he knew Kate had murder in heart as a kid. It was more that he took a shot at her at that moment when they were talking.
12-01-05, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
Did anyone else notice that when the car crashes into the telephone pole - the impact was strong enough to set off the airbags, but when Kate backs the car up the front of the car is intact - Not one Scratch!!
12-01-05, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jarofclay73
I think the key to Kate's motivation also lies in her Army father's quote about why he didn't murder Wayne. He said something like he didn't have a murderous heart in him. So, why would he think Kate has one? There's still something that's missing here and that's why I think the motivation seems ludicrous. So, even though I know a lot of people don't like Kate's flashbacks, I think we'll still get at least one more to get the whole story.
12-01-05, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ
Did anyone else notice that when the car crashes into the telephone pole - the impact was strong enough to set off the airbags, but when Kate backs the car up the front of the car is intact - Not one Scratch!!
12-01-05, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue588
It doesn't always take a strong impact to launch a car's airbags. Especially if it's a Ford.
Last edited by CPA-ESQ.; 12-01-05 at 01:51 PM.
12-01-05, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
Question: Why was the film cut and by whom?
That's what i wanna know. I can't fathom any good reason why the part that was removed from the film would be cut out.
12-01-05, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
That's what i wanna know. I can't fathom any good reason why the part that was removed from the film would be cut out.
