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Old 02-26-08, 07:45 PM
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I think Cameron was the terminator downstairs in the building where Reese and the others were held hostage. After he was taken downstairs they cleared out so I think he gave them the location of their hideout. Remember his comment about Sarah and not knowing what you will do when confined by 4 walls. I would bet that is how they know each other and not just from later when they were in the factory hideout before he was sent back.
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Originally Posted by Ravenous
I watch this when working out so maybe Im missing something....

In the recap they show Sara saying not to tell Reese that John is THE John, yet Reese knowns hes John, the son of Sara Conner? But doesnt think hes THE John? What the fuck?
the john he knows is a hardened warrior, not a kid
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He knows that John is John. He just doesn’t know that his brother is John’s dad.

Also, I believe T2 is supposed to be set in 1997, not 1995. Though I agree if John is 10 it’s supposed to be 1995. The Terminator universe is so screwed up when it comes to dates and years.

I found it shocking that she let the ballet teacher just mercilessly die, yet on the other hand learns ballet which is the music of the soul, or whatever.
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Originally Posted by mugwump
Well I liked this episode a lot. It provided a much better tie-up of the Dr. Silberman storyline than the tongue-in-cheek nonsense in T3. I was not expecting him to go all religious nutjob on the FBI agent so it was a good twist.

As for the ballet I just knew it was going to show up eventually. Can't believe it's all over as of next week.
It's always great to see Summer dance.
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Isn't anyone else bothered by the intro voice over where Sarah says "Skynet is programed to destroy the world" or something like that. Wasn't Sky programed to be a defense computer that became "self aware" then decided to kill all the humans. The voice over makes it seem like it was programed from the start to kill everyone.
Old 02-26-08, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuy
Isn't anyone else bothered by the intro voice over where Sarah says "Skynet is programed to destroy the world" or something like that. Wasn't Sky programed to be a defense computer that became "self aware" then decided to kill all the humans. The voice over makes it seem like it was programed from the start to kill everyone.

Interesting point.
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Originally Posted by Numes
Finally, did anyone see that T4 is coming out next May? I wonder how T2/T3/SCC is going to tie into the movie. Ok, I just IMDB'ed it and it looks like it takes place after skynet has done it's dirty work. Apparently Christian Bale is playing John Conner. Really?

I'm going to guess that it will try to be as independent of the movies/shows as possible.
I have read and watched and deduced the following:

T:SCC ignores the events of T3.
thus
T2 forks into T3 and T:SCC

And the movie, from what i have read, will follow the movie storyline (and will likely ignore the tv storyline. It will be about what happens after judgment day (as i believe that the missiles were launched and Connor appeared to take control at the end of T3).

Plus, i think that joblo mentioned that if T4 does moderately well it is expected to trigger T5 and T6.

Lastly, if you have not read the T2 universe books by S.M. Stirling.

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Old 02-27-08, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
Has it ever been explained what that "thing" is on Summer Glau's face near her eyebrow? I find myself distracted by it every time they give her a close-up.

Probably a birthmark.
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Even without the birthmark or whatever it is...she's still kinda funny lookin'. But like I said, she's growing on me.

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Old 02-27-08, 06:42 AM
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Any chance that a T-1000 is going to pop up on the show?
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Even without the birthmark or whatever it is...she's still kinda funny lookin'. But like I said, she's growing on me.
Summer is terrific in this role.

Just when the show is getting good, here comes the season finale, crap.
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She had the birthmark even back in 2006 when I took these photos of Summer at Dragon Con. Only the first photo has the birthmark in it (to see it better, you'd have to click on the link and then click "all sizes" and select the original size to see it better).

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Old 02-27-08, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuy
Isn't anyone else bothered by the intro voice over where Sarah says "Skynet is programed to destroy the world" or something like that. Wasn't Sky programed to be a defense computer that became "self aware" then decided to kill all the humans. The voice over makes it seem like it was programed from the start to kill everyone.
I'm annoyed by the part of the intro which says something like "Skynet sent robots back from the future, some of them to kill him...and one to protect him." Why would Skynet send a robot back to protect him?
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I just have to mention this. Maybe I missed something when watching this last episode, but does anyone find it weird that Silberman doesn't even ask the FBI agent for his credentials or an ID badge before assuming that he's from the future and just posing as an FBI agent? This kinda bothered me.
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Originally Posted by GoVegan
I'm annoyed by the part of the intro which says something like "Skynet sent robots back from the future, some of them to kill him...and one to protect him." Why would Skynet send a robot back to protect him?
I'm still annoyed by the fact that the writers are still acting like the events of Terminator 2 took place in 1997 and not 1995.
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I'm still annoyed by the fact that the writers are still acting like the events of Terminator 2 took place in 1997 and not 1995.
Sorry to say but the setting of T2 is actually in 1997. Yes it’s screwed up but this particular screw up is not the fault of the series.
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Originally Posted by Class316
Sorry to say but the setting of T2 is actually in 1997. Yes it’s screwed up but this particular screw up is not the fault of the series.
And what proof do you have of this? Director's commentary? I don't listen to those, nor do a lot of other people. I'm simply going off of facts in the movie, which is what the writers of SCC should have done. My proof is that in Terminator 2, when the T-1000 is reading John's dossier on the computer in the police car, it indicates that John was born 2/28/1985; right next to that it has his age at ten.

Then, when John, Sarah, and Arnold are in the car after stopping for a bite to eat, we have this explanation:

"In three years, Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems. All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards, they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes on-line on August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn, at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 am, eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."

To me, that indicates the events took place in 1995. Now, Arnold's 'three years' might be just him rounding up to 3, as a 'real' three would put have him talking about 1998, which is AFTER Judgment Day.

T3 might have been the one that F'ed it up, since it stated that John was 13 at the time of Terminator 2. Who knows?

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Man, you people sure are into the nitty gritty. I've never once in the movies looked at the dates because they are entertaining without me looking for flaws.

For those complaining about Summer Glau, look at Patman's pictures, what is wrong with her? She is expected to have a scary/mechanical 'look' in the movie but when she smiles, it shows her beautiful she really is.
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"But Obi-Won told Luke that YODA trained him, not Liam Neeson!"

"If Scotty saw Kirk die, then why did he tell La Forge that he bet it was Kirk who'd come to save him?!"

"How did Optimus know what happened to Megatron after he crashed?!"

"HOW DID KHAN RECOGNIZE CHEKOV?!"





I mean, christ, realy? A Date?


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Wikipedia says 1994. Meh, dunno anymore
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
"But Obi-Won told Luke that YODA trained him, not Liam Neeson!"

"If Scotty saw Kirk die, then why did he tell La Forge that he bet it was Kirk who'd come to save him?!"

"How did Optimus know what happened to Megatron after he crashed?!"

"HOW DID KHAN RECOGNIZE CHEKOV?!"





I mean, christ, realy? A Date?


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It's funny. My attitude is usually the same as yours, but I don't know why I'm being such a nitpick when I've been so dismissive of other similar matters in the past.
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The producer of SCC, Josh Friedman, posted a new blog entry on the 25th, and at the end of it, he writes:

"Dr. Silberman. Fire. Ballet. And if you look CLOSELY you’ll see something (or someone) that gives insight into Sarah’s apocalyptic dream in Episode One."

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Anyone have an idea as to what he's talking about?
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
"But Obi-Won told Luke that YODA trained him, not Liam Neeson!"
That's not a contradiction. Did you have one teacher your entire life? Obi Wan could have been trained by Yoda as a Youngling.

But anyway, I still can't get over their "no loose ends" policy yet they left one fully functional Terminator safely locked up.
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But anyway, I still can't get over their "no loose ends" policy yet they left one fully functional Terminator safely locked up.
That Terminator is locked up in an abandoned nuclear fallout shelter. Presumably, he's out of commission unless he can break through walls created to withstand a nuclear blast.
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Originally Posted by Class316
But anyway, I still can't get over their "no loose ends" policy yet they left one fully functional Terminator safely locked up.
Maybe this explains their total lack of attention to detail

Josh Friedman, executive producer of the show, said that he didn't worry too much about living up to the deep-rooted fandom and complex mythology of the series.

"I don't give it a second thought.... I think Terminator fans are just happy to have more to watch."
http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008...con-hig-1.html

Guess that explains the ongoing sagging ratings


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