buzzdalf

I'm suspecting, To talk to his dead dad and find out information.

Matthew Ackerly

To talk to the Dharma people in the pit who died in the purge.

MoviePage

Great catch. I didn't even think about it, but that's got to be what happened.

DthRdrX

One thing is for sure:

We now know Naomi knew about the purchase order for the plane, and dead bodies, and proceeded to lie to the the losties about 815 being found and everyone being dead. She knew it was staged and played up the lie for her employer.

DthRdrX

Someone edited The Empire Strikes Back wiki page accordingly. Look at the first paragraph.

Breakfast with Girls

"Someone"

DthRdrX

Wasn't me.

FatTony

Loved the episode. I like Miles and it was nice to get some more of his backstory (as well as confirmation that Dr. Chang is indeed his father).

Yep.

He hasn't been on the show before. Can't speak for anyone else, but I recognized him from Starship Troopers, which is bizarre because he had a tiny role in it (then again, I've seen that movie a lot).

Goldberg74

Must have been changed back, 'cause I don't see the joke.

Son of Odin

I thought this episode clearly pointed out that widmore was behind the fake wreckage. then he had the guy killed to cover his tracks like any good mastermind would. finally, we see dharma/hanso faction enter the fray. took them long enough. i had a feeling they weren't widmore's people since widmore usually hires tough looking mercenaries. obviously dr. chang loved baby miles and probably pushed miles and his mom away because of events that are going to happen on the island. I hope miles tells him everything. i thought this was a great episode and answered quite a few questions.

DthRdrX

The Others killed the guy, not Widmore, hence Tom having the pictures and paperwork in S4.

Naomi already knew his name, how he died, and what he was carrying. How else would she have known if Miles passed the ghost test?

SteelWill

Didn't Mr. Friendly present what Miles said the dead guy had (folder, pictures, etc.) as evidence to Michael that Widmore staged the crash? Friendly could have killed him for the stuff, and with him (and thus Ben) involved, I'm not sure it clarifies who staged the crash.

invisiblegt

Yes, it was "so obvious." How anyone missed such a blatant fact within the episode is beyond me. And yet, multiple people throughout the thread have commented as such.

Do people not pay attention to the show, or are they really that stupid?

CharlieK

Why do people have to come off as such douche bags with completely hostile and unnecessary posts? It's just a friendly discussion. Does it boost your self-esteem to try and tear down others?

Palaver

Oh. I've stated this before, but I still maintain this theory. I think Miles isn't really communicating with dead people. What he is doing is communicating with dead people in the past, prior to their death.

If the dead neighbor was complaining about chest pains and calling out for a dead wife, these are things that a dying, yet still alive, man would do. Not a dead man.

I also think this explains things like the changing pictures. If he is communicating with people in the past, he might be able to alter things slightly, like the pictures.

Hurley, I think, actually is communicating with dead people. That's why the way it works differently for him.

aintnosin

I think Hurley is communicating with the Island, which speaks through dead people.

riley_dude

I thought that was a bit harsh as well. We can't all be as smart though.

Good episode but not great.

cracksky

Sometimes it takes another viewing to catch all the information that is thrown at you. After just seeing it a second time, here's what I saw and heard.

When Miles gets to Horace he's on the phone and the end of the conversation is something like, "so you think it was caused by the electromagnetism, then?"

That's a pretty clear indication along with Miles' rundown from the corpse of what happened.

Another thing I thought was interesting. The Orchid site is looking to be a rather large above-ground structure but from what we've seen of it in the future it is only a partial structure with most of it under ground. I guess maybe the incident occurs here and causes most of the building to fall. Pierre probably gets his arm crushed as well (since he has a fake one in the films).

I think I know why and where Daniel went. When they were placing people in Dharma jobs, he was best suited for the home office in Ann Arbor since he is a scientist. He has been doing research there ever since and now he's needed on the island, probably for The Orchid.

Also liked how the microwave in the beginning of the episode displayed 3:16 (as in Flight 316).

Matthew Ackerly

After what we have seen from this season, this video can be watched in a whole new light.




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Son of Odin

they have to end next season and the series with george lucas finding hurley's script. just a 30 second guest appearance. he looks at it and grins. perfect end to a great show.

DVD Josh

For a guy who's seen TESB "200 times" you'd think Hurley would have gotten the order of Luke's hand getting cut off and the Vader reveal correct.

ATX

WTF?

you ain't lying... last time i watched that i didn't even really pay attention to what he was saying and didn't notice Miles talking

tlwizard

I'm not sure that was Miles. Sorta sounded like Farraday to me.

JZ1276

there was no bullet

ATX

i think it was Miles on the first parts, but then at the end sounded like Faraday was there