Jay Leno - Shows, Projects, and News
10-20-09, 01:46 AM
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Hard to tell how he'd do without the Leno problem (presumably better). Regardless, please don't lump Coco in with Leno and Fallon (ugh). :P
10-20-09, 02:03 AM
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BTW - I only watch Craig Ferguson since all the others pale in comparison so I'm not taking any sides in this matter and could care less. I just find it funny that NBC made one of worst moves in television history and they're paying the price for it. Who in their right mind would watch 3 talk shows back-to-back-to-back with the news sandwiched in there? Not to mention, the numbers for all their others show have gone in the toilet. Somebody better get fired for this.
10-20-09, 02:41 PM
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I think its rediculous that he is on 5 nights a week. They should of just gave him 2 or 3 nights and put a really good drama in the other slots. Getting rid of Medium was stupid...
10-20-09, 03:23 PM
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IMO, Conan would get higher ratings if Leno was not on. I end up watching Leno fairly often due to lack of anything better being on and by the time Conan comes on, I'm sick of talk shows. On top of that, NBC unfairly screwed Conan by keeping Leno the "Flagship", so that Leno's guests are on Conan the following night, pitching the same movie and telling the same jokes. Conan is relegated to being a second-string rerun of Leno.
10-20-09, 08:52 PM
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I am finding what appeals to me on the new Leno show is the same stuff that appealed to me on the Tonight Show: I enjoy watching "Headlines" every Monday. That's about it. If I miss anything else, I don't feel too slighted. If I catch a monologue here and there, I can find a few jokes to laugh at. So for me I may watch Leno's monologue, go walk the dog, come back and catch Headlines or something else or just not watch the rest of it at all.
I still watch my NBC affiliate for news because I've always liked their local news better than the other channels in town. It has nothing to do with what leads into the news.
I actually think Conan does the best job with his show. I think he's great on the Tonight Show, and brings back some of the sensibility to it that Carson had. Letterman can only get great ratings when he's joking about underage girls or doing other girls. He's a sad, pathetic shell of how great he used to be.
I still watch my NBC affiliate for news because I've always liked their local news better than the other channels in town. It has nothing to do with what leads into the news.
I actually think Conan does the best job with his show. I think he's great on the Tonight Show, and brings back some of the sensibility to it that Carson had. Letterman can only get great ratings when he's joking about underage girls or doing other girls. He's a sad, pathetic shell of how great he used to be.
10-25-09, 11:25 AM
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Did anybody watch Friday night's episode? I recorded it since I wasn't home just to see how the Michelle Obama appearance worked out.
After all the hype leading up to her appearance on the show all we get is "Ten at Ten" with her via video? First, Ten at Ten is certainly one of the weakest segments of the new format (and that's saying a lot..there is a lot of weakness on this show) and if she was on there via video she was NOT on the show! Any time I've seen a program where somebody was only able to talk via video they weren't promoted as being a guest on the actual show. It would always be "so and so wasn't able to be with us so we have them via video."
Also, Friday night featured a new miserable and painful segment....Jay with some round table discussion about current topics? Was that on Friday night? Good God, that was painful to watch. Is he trying to be like Bill Maher now? It's pathetic seeing Leno trying to find his grounding with this show this late in the season already. It really is like he hasn't still figured out how to make the show work.
After all the hype leading up to her appearance on the show all we get is "Ten at Ten" with her via video? First, Ten at Ten is certainly one of the weakest segments of the new format (and that's saying a lot..there is a lot of weakness on this show) and if she was on there via video she was NOT on the show! Any time I've seen a program where somebody was only able to talk via video they weren't promoted as being a guest on the actual show. It would always be "so and so wasn't able to be with us so we have them via video."
Also, Friday night featured a new miserable and painful segment....Jay with some round table discussion about current topics? Was that on Friday night? Good God, that was painful to watch. Is he trying to be like Bill Maher now? It's pathetic seeing Leno trying to find his grounding with this show this late in the season already. It really is like he hasn't still figured out how to make the show work.
10-25-09, 12:33 PM
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I agree, it's brutal! The one great thing about Carson is he knew when a segment was bombing and would actually get a laugh in the segment because it was so bad. And you would never see that segment ever again. I see Ten at Ten come on and I hide behind my pillow because it is so awkward!
10-25-09, 01:01 PM
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And I agree that the "10 at 10" is painful. In addition to it not being very funny, I think some of the brutality has to do with there being a slight delay in the video feed (at least the times I've seen it), so it sounds very awkward.
But I admit that I watch a whole lot more Leno now than when he was hosting the Tonight Show. But only if there's a guest/musical artist I like on. I'll record it and skip through pretty much everything but the interview/performance, the car challenge (my roommate's a car nut), headlines, and whenever Leno does a remote bit.
10-25-09, 01:11 PM
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i used to love when Jay Leno hosted the Tonight show, I thought he did a excellent job, and had alots of funny bits, but the Jay Leno show is not nearly as good. Having just the seats sometimes feels akward as Jay Leno sometimes hunches over the seat as he talks, the 10 at 10 is lame, the questions are weak, the delay in the satellite feed makes stuff feel awkward and its not funny. I think the earn your plug thing is dumb too.
I still like the opening monouluge, but everything else is not nearly as good as before or as entertaining. Plus whats with having Kevin Newbanks way across the stage, he seems further away then ever before, so you dont get as much banter between them.
Jay Leno needs his desk, and just go back to what they did during the tonight show, the 10 at 10 is dumb, earn your plug needs to go. When Jay Leno hosted the tonight show I would watch when I had nothing else to do but it was always entertaining, this is usually awkward and lame and sometimes hard to watch.
I still like the opening monouluge, but everything else is not nearly as good as before or as entertaining. Plus whats with having Kevin Newbanks way across the stage, he seems further away then ever before, so you dont get as much banter between them.
Jay Leno needs his desk, and just go back to what they did during the tonight show, the 10 at 10 is dumb, earn your plug needs to go. When Jay Leno hosted the tonight show I would watch when I had nothing else to do but it was always entertaining, this is usually awkward and lame and sometimes hard to watch.
10-26-09, 06:27 AM
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I agree with you maingon: when I watched the Tonight Show (the next morning), I would usually FF through the stuff I didn't want to watch. I'm finding I FF through a whole lot more of this show.
11-02-09, 03:35 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091102/tv_nm/us_leno_1
If what Leno says is true and his ratings stay consistant, you can be sure he will be on for many years to come. I'm pretty sure $300M a year is probably more than if NBC had stayed with scripted shows.
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Leno says NBC making money with show's new time
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Jay Leno has shrugged off low ratings for his new prime-time nightly TV talk show, saying NBC is making money with his switch from late night to earlier and he enjoys being an underdog in the race to get viewers.
In an interview with Broadcasting and Cable magazine released on Monday, the beleaguered host of "The Jay Leno Show" said he was finding his new 10 p.m. time slot "difficult but interesting" and said that NBC was standing behind him.
"The Jay Leno Show" -- a move by struggling NBC to cut costs by airing Leno's less-costly comedy hour at a time usually reserved for expensive scripted dramas -- is getting about 5 million viewers an episode, or less than half the audience for dramas on rivals CBS and ABC at the same time.
"I enjoy being the underdog," Leno said. "I'm told that if we can keep a 1.5 (rating), they (NBC) make $300 million a year; this is what they say. So we're a little above the 1.5, we're doing OK." Rating points help measure viewership.
General Electric Co's NBC did not return calls for comment.
Asked if he regretted leaving the 11:30 p.m. time he held for 17 years, Leno said: "Yeah sure. I would have preferred that. I think it's too soon to say whether I regret anything or not...Do I enjoy the battle? Yes, I get a certain amount of satisfaction from pounding my head against the wall."
Leno said he took 95 percent of the blame for negative media coverage of his new venture, saying he was constantly "tweaking" the show.
He expected audiences to pick up when other networks start running repeats of their dramas in the summer and over the holiday period.
"Something makes me think we might be OK here for a while," he said. "I'm not having a bad time at 10 o'clock now. I look at this job, and now I'm faced with a challenge I find difficult but interesting."
NBC is currently bottom in overall audience terms of the four major U.S. TV networks but is not losing viewers so far in the 2009-10 season compared to the same time a year ago.
ABC is owned by Walt Disney Co and CBS is owned by CBS Corp.
(Reporting by Jill Serjeant; Editing by Bob Tourtellotte)
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Jay Leno has shrugged off low ratings for his new prime-time nightly TV talk show, saying NBC is making money with his switch from late night to earlier and he enjoys being an underdog in the race to get viewers.
In an interview with Broadcasting and Cable magazine released on Monday, the beleaguered host of "The Jay Leno Show" said he was finding his new 10 p.m. time slot "difficult but interesting" and said that NBC was standing behind him.
"The Jay Leno Show" -- a move by struggling NBC to cut costs by airing Leno's less-costly comedy hour at a time usually reserved for expensive scripted dramas -- is getting about 5 million viewers an episode, or less than half the audience for dramas on rivals CBS and ABC at the same time.
"I enjoy being the underdog," Leno said. "I'm told that if we can keep a 1.5 (rating), they (NBC) make $300 million a year; this is what they say. So we're a little above the 1.5, we're doing OK." Rating points help measure viewership.
General Electric Co's NBC did not return calls for comment.
Asked if he regretted leaving the 11:30 p.m. time he held for 17 years, Leno said: "Yeah sure. I would have preferred that. I think it's too soon to say whether I regret anything or not...Do I enjoy the battle? Yes, I get a certain amount of satisfaction from pounding my head against the wall."
Leno said he took 95 percent of the blame for negative media coverage of his new venture, saying he was constantly "tweaking" the show.
He expected audiences to pick up when other networks start running repeats of their dramas in the summer and over the holiday period.
"Something makes me think we might be OK here for a while," he said. "I'm not having a bad time at 10 o'clock now. I look at this job, and now I'm faced with a challenge I find difficult but interesting."
NBC is currently bottom in overall audience terms of the four major U.S. TV networks but is not losing viewers so far in the 2009-10 season compared to the same time a year ago.
ABC is owned by Walt Disney Co and CBS is owned by CBS Corp.
(Reporting by Jill Serjeant; Editing by Bob Tourtellotte)
Chris
11-02-09, 04:06 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091102/tv_nm/us_leno_1
If what Leno says is true and his ratings stay consistant, you can be sure he will be on for many years to come. I'm pretty sure $300M a year is probably more than if NBC had stayed with scripted shows.
Chris
If what Leno says is true and his ratings stay consistant, you can be sure he will be on for many years to come. I'm pretty sure $300M a year is probably more than if NBC had stayed with scripted shows.
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Many years to come? Don't think so. Not at this rate. It won't last the season.
11-03-09, 09:09 AM
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I have still not seen this show, but never really cared for Leno. He always seemed rather smarmy. But from what i have read he still has a couple of years on his contract and in order for them to pull the plug they would have a huge payout to give him. I get the feeling they will keep on trying with this and i guess they will continue to fail or might be lucky and find its stride. I wonder what Conan thinks about all this? I used to watch his show all the time (when i had a TV) and he is really the best out there for chat shows, but i think it will probably be hurting his ratings.
11-03-09, 09:35 AM
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I know this is a late response, but c'mon...you don't honestly believe that as many people time-shifted on their VCRs as do on their DVRs, do you? And no one beyond the uber-geeky could figure out how to watch one show and record another. DVRs make that extremely easy.
11-03-09, 09:00 PM
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Perhaps not as many people. But I don't think that many people recorded LPs to cassette as they download music off the Internet and rip it to CDRs and iPods and flash drives and such. The point is technology changes. And if the insiders that drive the media failed to see it coming, that's not our fault.
11-04-09, 09:53 AM
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I have not sat through one episode yet, but happened to have it on last night and caught him interviewing the two from Paranormal Activity. I just wanted to claw my own eyes out it was so bad.
11-04-09, 11:02 AM
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They ought to put this show out of its misery and give him a weekly 30-minute "Jay Leno's Garage" show and let him talk about his cars and related stuff. If they featured a different one of his cars every week, they'd have enough material for 400 weeks.
11-04-09, 12:46 PM
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What a disaster for NBC, other than the Office and an occasional Law and Order.. I never visit this network.
Look what ABC has done with Buzz already this year, Flash Forward, V, a couple of good comedies.
NBC is run by Morons.
Look what ABC has done with Buzz already this year, Flash Forward, V, a couple of good comedies.
NBC is run by Morons.
11-04-09, 12:56 PM
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They may be morons, but Friday Night Lights is still on the air.
11-04-09, 01:33 PM
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11-04-09, 02:48 PM
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11-04-09, 05:22 PM
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This may have already been mentioned but someone pointed out that Southland being cancelled may be directly related to the Leno show. It's really more of a 10pm show but with Leno on 5 nights a week they had to stick it in at 9 where it wasn't a good fit. I caught an episode or two of Southland and enjoyed it so it's a shame it's gone whether Leno's show was part of the reason or not.
11-04-09, 05:28 PM
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This may have already been mentioned but someone pointed out that Southland being cancelled may be directly related to the Leno show. It's really more of a 10pm show but with Leno on 5 nights a week they had to stick it in at 9 where it wasn't a good fit. I caught an episode or two of Southland and enjoyed it so it's a shame it's gone whether Leno's show was part of the reason or not.
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