Get Me Coffee

Yo Thanks for the info....

BeckysBoy

I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing games that were out or are scheduled. Had I known we were opening things up to wild speculation I would have adjusted my comments accordingly.

Actually if you look solely at VALUE, you'll see that after buying just two games you will have already paid more for a PSP than for a DS and two games. Moreover, if you want to take advantage of the multimedia aspect of the PSP, you'll also be ponying up for the biggest Sony memory stick you can find. I'd much rather pay slightly more in the initial purchase than be doomed to pay $50 for every game over the life of the system, which is what looks likely. And I can guarantee you Sony will be laughing all the way to the bank.

It's great that you're excited about the PSP. A lot of us are. But don't try and convince me that because they knock a few dollars off the launch price (a move which hasn't even been confirmed) that they're somehow offering us this great deal. They aren't.

And I heard you can do that on a DS right this minute using tunneling software and homebrew web browsers. Personally, it seems like it'd be less of a pain to use the DS' stylus to enter text, but I'm with you that having Web browsing capability on either system is a great thing and I look forward to taking advantage of it.

ElementZ

Here is another user review that I seen. Interesting to say the least

PSP Review

Get Me Coffee

Well FFVII: Crisis Core is scheduled for late 2005...


Value= Gaming, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Wi-Fi

Does the DS have all of those? Yes, I heard Nintendo plans on releasing MP3 Software for it....And movies...well even if they do have some type of movie expansion....that screen is small....pretty crappy experience if you ask me.

Also regarding the Memory stick price...you can get a 512mb for $65 dollars, plus many people already have the memory stick (I do).

Also it's pretty nifty to be able to pull out your memory stick from your digital camera and plug it into your PSP to view pictures on that huge bright screen.

Further more I'm not buying every title release....here and there I'll purchase some ...but for me it's mainly going to be movies on the memory stick for when I'm at the gym or on a flight.

I'm not trying to convice you....but you're in a thread called:Loving the PSP!....what would you expect from a thread such as this?

BeckysBoy

True, but it's not a strategy title, and that's what I was refering to specifically. Always looking forward to RPGs, of course.

The DS does or will have all of those (Nintendo's currently showing a small first party device that allows for MP3 audio, MPEG4 video, and photo display via the use of SD cards). Frankly, you're right. If that's what I want, I'll do it on the PSP. But when I bought the DS (or, rather, it was bought for me), it with the intention of playing games, and I would/will buy the PSP with the same primary expectation. All the other stuff is nice, but ultimately secondary, and other devices do it better.

It's very much like when the PS2 and Xbox offered DVD playback and the GCN didn't. Some people felt this was a big plus for those systems and justified a higher price, while others didn't see the point and prefered to use that extra money for a standalone DVD player. It's all in your perspective, I guess. In the end I think Nintendo keeps the focus on innovative game design, while Sony concentrates on making an "everything but the kitchen sink" device and places the onus on somebody else to devise good ways to make use of it.

...assuming you have a Sony-made camera (PC, camcorder, whatever), which I don't. And while a 512mb memory stick is reasonably priced, it's still proprietary media, and Sony can basically charge whatever they want for it without fear that someone else is going to compete. I don't like that. Same with movies on UMD (which is the only media that will take full advantage of the display). If I could play DVDs on the PSP, I'd be singing its praises from the rooftops. But I don't see a lot of value or benefit in having to buy movies in a new format or going to the trouble of constantly downconverting them and transferring them to a memory stick.

Point taken.

Josh H

The PSP is definitely the system to get for those interested in a portable media player. But obviously that doesn't matter for those who'd only use it to play games, and there's extra cost involved to use most of those features....

.....as most people don't have memory sticks lying around.

It's a review thread, albeit one that the original poster started positively. Being a review thread I expect to see the pros and cons of the system, with people saying what they liked and didn't like about to help me (and others) decide whether to buy one.

Get Me Coffee

Thanks for your 2cents...errrr 1 cent

Josh H

Hey, if you don't like my posts, put me on your ignore list instead of making little snide remarks all the time. That will just eventually get you in trouble.

BeckysBoy

Case in point: This week, Fry's is offering a 1GB Lexmark SD card for $60. So twice the storage for $5 less than a 512mb memory stick.

Josh H

Yeah, proprietary formats suck for just that reason.

Get Me Coffee

That's funny. I noticed that Amazon has a 1GB SD card for 60ish too...think it's time to get a new card for my Pocket PC.

But you're right the memory stick is still high, it's gone down in price...but it's still high next to SD, MC, XD

wlj

"Loving the PSP"

Now you are loving it....give it a week or two...you will be playing it less and less until it goes on the shelf, and you will be playing your PS2 or Xbox. Unless you are somebody who travels all the time and can't play a console. It's just the excitement around its launch and it's a new cool gadget that not many people have yet that you are loving. Please don't see this as a flame or negative post...I don't mean anything bad by it. Just my opinion

wlj

BeckysBoy

Not necessarily. As longtime portable player, I actually spend more time playing my portables (currently a DS, but GBA, GBC, GB, GameGear, and more before that) than my home console because I can do it while watching TV (or, more importantly, while my wife is watching TV), hanging out at my folks, etc. Because it is more versatile and I don't have to shut out the world to play it, it gets more attention.

So in my case, anyway, I'll probably end up playing the PSP and DS more than my regular consoles.

cheapskate

Come on man... you know that's not right!












(I put my GB Color in a drawer)

wlj

[QUOTE=
So in my case, anyway, I'll probably end up playing the PSP and DS more than my regular consoles.[/QUOTE]

Great...but you have to understand that you are in the minority. Most people do not play portables more than their consoles....unless all they do is travel or do not even own a console.

wlj

Get Me Coffee

[QUOTE=wlj]wlj, You know with FPS on the PSP you wouldn't need a cardboard screen splitter....just a thought

wlj

Well when you put it that way......SOLD!!!!


wlj

Josh H

It depends on the games out at the time for me, in regards to whether I play my consoles or portables more. For instance, I recently played through Mario and Luigi (GBA) on my DS and loved it so much I didn't touch a console until I finished it.

I'll probably do that with the new Zelda GBA game and the new Mario DS game when it comes out. Though I'm forcing myself to play through Metroid Prime 2 first.

sofdec

I was exactly the same way.. but (IMO At least) in the past the portable games havent been this extensive and in depth. You'd get NES and SNES ports for the most part, some other games that would look great.. for a super NES game, and most just werent very in depth (And I'm not just saying that because of the way they looked), with the PSP, they've really gotten to the point where they can have full new console-quality games on a handheld - And because of that, I fully expect to use it just as much as any other console - ragardless if I'm on the road or not.

Josh H

It remains to be seen how "in depth" the PSP games will be. I don't consider in depth to mean graphics. I'm fine with SNES level graphics, if the game play is good. And games like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (which is crazy long, probably 40-60 hours to get all the way through) are pretty in depth in terms of having a ton of gameplay.

GatorDeb

http://www.zbattery.com/zbattery/memoryeffect.html

Summary: With LiIon there's no memory effect.

Josh H

Good to hear. Thanks for the info GatorDeb.

GatorDeb

By the way I wanted to add that I have all three consoles and never play them (GC/XBOX/PS2). I'm so busy that games don't get any play time. But now that I had a break from school and nothing to do at work (I work overnight at a call center and in the first 5-6 hours we get an average of 3 or less calls an hour) I've been playing my GBA. It's great when you have to wait at the DMV, the doctor's etc. I start school again next week so it'll go back to the dustbin until the semester's over. But I'm definitely going handheld-only from now on (I plan to get both a DS and a PSP).

Darknight

It's funny how you point out the price hasn't even been confirmed yet, but you seem to use the $50 price point of games as if it is confirmed. You do realize that Nintendo DS games cost $50 in Japan too right? You do realize GBA games go for $40 to $50 in Japan too right? You do realize that PS2 games are $60 to $70 in Japan right? Just because the current batch of PSP games are 4000 to 5000 yen or $40 to $50 in Japan does not mean the games will be that expensive here. There has not been any indication of how much games will be here so it's silly to try and argue that after buying a PSP and two games, you spend more than you would a DS and 2 games.

I've got my Nintendo DS and PSP here yet I'm still waiting for my first Nintendo DS game to buy. It's a system without any worthy games right now. It's a system with a lot of potential, and a lot of good games coming for it, but right now the Nintendo DS is hardly in great shape when it comes to software. The PSP on the otherhand, which I only paid $235 for the value pack, is by far getting more usage with at least 3 hours a day, and has several solid games that have great replayability and lastability thus far. They are not just great portable games, they stack up as solid console games, especially for launch titles. The PSP is off to a better start and right now offers better bang for the buck with its extra capabilities. Will it stay that way, who knows, and I sure as heck hope not, but as of right now the Nintendo DS is collecting dust. Hopefully my Japanese version of Mr. Driller finally arrives so I'll have something to play on it.

For the record, I average at least purchasing one game a week and will likely own more Nintendo DS games than most people own across all their systems. It's just that right now, there is barely anything to play. I'm so disappointed in Nintendo's weak software offering for themselves. I would have expected more from them other than enhanced port of a game I've already bought twice. Where's Metroid? Where's Wario Ware? Those would have been great launch titles.

wlj

Well...you are in a situation where a handheld is your only option. So of course you are going to play a handheld more. But normal gamers in normal situations will play their console more.

Softdec....you should be in a commercial promoting the PSP . I am glad you are having a blast with it. You use the term "new console" graphics with the PSP....I don't think that is true. I have done some reading on the PSP and I have read that the graphics are not even PS2 quality...they are somewhere in between PS1 and PS2. I am sure the graphics blow other handhelds away...but I really don't think the PSP has graphics like the "new consoles" XBOX2 and PS3 will have.


wlj