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Old 06-29-05, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tenaciousdave
GT4 is only 4.5 GB. Check the download sites.
Not according to IGN, who I will trust more than a download site:

The game makes use of a dual layered DVD, totaling, Yamauchi revealed, over nine gigabytes of data.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/564/564800p1.html
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Old 06-29-05, 12:02 PM
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When they state 'over nine gigabytes of data', they probably mean uncompressed data. Especially when a DVD can only hold 9GB. GT4 is indeed only 4.5GB.
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Originally Posted by flashburn
When they state 'over nine gigabytes of data', they probably mean uncompressed data. Especially when a DVD can only hold 9GB. GT4 is indeed only 4.5GB.
I read a few forums on this subject, and the disc does make use of both layers. Apparently people have been ripping two dvds... one being the arcade version and one being the simulation version onto two 4.5GB single layer DVDs.

And I thought DVDs held 4.7GB per layer? Meaning a total of 9.4GB.
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Old 06-30-05, 12:31 PM
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Interesting article on CNN about the possibility of Microsoft licensing the Xbox software, much like they do with Windows.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html
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I can't really say anything other than....November 18th.

Spoiler:
But maybe you will be seeing a pricedrop at the same time the PS3 launches.
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Originally Posted by Achtung
Interesting article on CNN about the possibility of Microsoft licensing the Xbox software, much like they do with Windows.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html

this is brilliant!
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Old 07-01-05, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Achtung
Interesting article on CNN about the possibility of Microsoft licensing the Xbox software, much like they do with Windows.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html
Could this be a reaction to Sony announcing the PS3 was all open source? I think so!
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Old 07-01-05, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by twikoff
this is brilliant!

MS already shot this down for the most part, it won't be happening for at least a couple years, if ever:
Yesterday, the next-gen console race took an unexpected twist, when an article in Japanese business daily Nihon Keizai Shimbun was picked up by many media outlets, including the Associated Press.

The article reported Bill Gates, who was visiting Japan, as hinting that Microsoft might adapt its mega-successful PC business model to the next-gen console race. The paper quoted the Microsoft chairman and chief software architect as saying his company was open to the idea of licensing the Xbox 360's operating system to third-party hardware manufacturers, as it does with Windows and PCs. Gates reportedly said such a business strategy is being discussed within Microsoft, and that the idea is at a preliminary stage.

Gates' comments were reportedly in response to queries about third-party premium-end game machines with functionalities beyond the standard Xbox 360 specifications. However, rumors began to quickly spread that Microsoft was considering letting outside parties make their own game consoles that would run the Xbox 360 OS, perhaps as soon as the platform's launch later this year.

However, speaking to GameSpot, Microsoft officials flatly denied that the Xbox 360 would carry any other label than Microsoft's--or at least any time soon. "To be clear, Xbox will continue to be manufactured exclusively by Microsoft," said a rep for the company. "There's certainly a potential for other hardware companies to manufacture Xbox some day in the future, but that is not something we're focused on right now."

Of course, at the current time, there would be little incentive for an external manufacturer to make an Xbox 360. While Microsoft has released no official manufacturing costs--or even a price--for the console, it is widely believed that the company is heavily marking down each unit. Some analysts predict that the company will lose around $75 for each 360 sold, losing $91.2 million and $243.2 million in hardware production in 2005 and 2006, respectively.
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Old 07-05-05, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Yes it will probably sell out around the holidays.

And yes the game stores stop taking reserves when they have as many pre-orders as units they expect to get in.

That said, you should be able to buy one in the first month or so of launch without any problems.

It will be sold out for the first couple weeks, then you'll be able to find them fairly easy, and then they'll be tough to find right before and right after X-mas more than likely.
I don't think this question can be answered as of yet. MS has not let retailers know their initial launch allocations, so until this happens there is no way to know whether we are looking at a massive shortage (like the original Xbox and PS2 launches) or a PSP-esque situation (where you had no issues at all finding these things).

If any retailer (online or bricks and mortar) is taking pre-orders, they are doing so by guessing their initial unit allocation. Most of the time, retailers grossly overestimate what they think they'll get, and then begin to panic once MS, Sony or Nintendo gives them the REAL numbers.

But, traditionally, the game companies rarely make enough units for launch to even remotely keep up with demand. A holiday launch makes things even more sketchy since you have added Xmas demand on top of rabid fans waiting for their first shot at the next gen. I guess the only real advice here is to pre-order if you really want to have it right away and/or before Xmas. If you don't, you'll be rolling the dice.

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Question - any more news as to what is going to be backward compatible? From what I have heard, it's going to be almost all of the mainstream titles, including all Live titles (Halo 2 and Ghost Recon 2 - yeah!). Only the most obscure stuff will be left out. If true, this will be great news for the new 360.
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It will all be done via software emulation packages, which will most likely have to be custom tailored to each game. The 360 will come with the most popular games emulation packages prepacked on the hard drive - I'd guess between 10 and 20 games. The rest will be downloadable via LIve.

This brings up an interesting situation. Since only 10-15% of all Xbox owners have their machines connected to an Internet connection, how with the ramaining owners receive the packages? Will Microsoft issue discs quarterly to registered 360 owners?
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Old 07-08-05, 09:29 AM
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I would doubt it. They'll probably just let themselves off the hook because they'll be available on the Silver version of live, meaning anyone with an internet connection and/or a little tech savviness should be able to get them. The people who don't fall in this category will be out of luck, but they probably wouldn't know about or need full backwards compatibility.
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Old 07-08-05, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
This brings up an interesting situation. Since only 10-15% of all Xbox owners have their machines connected to an Internet connection, how with the ramaining owners receive the packages? Will Microsoft issue discs quarterly to registered 360 owners?
I'm sure we'll see them on demo discs from the xbox magazine.
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Old 07-08-05, 06:37 PM
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I think MS will be expecting LIVE connectivity of 50% or greater with the new free LIVE account.
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Old 07-11-05, 10:32 AM
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It might come in multiple colors.
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Old 07-11-05, 10:38 AM
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That is so kiddy like.

Seriously though, that looks like the dev. kit pic that was shown a couple days ago.
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Photochopped.
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Old 07-11-05, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
That is so kiddy like.

Seriously though, that looks like the dev. kit pic that was shown a couple days ago.
I don't follow you.
Are you saying the color black (instead of white) is "kiddy like"?
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I think he was just being sarcastic as that's the typical response to any thing like this posted regarding a Nintendo console.
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Old 07-11-05, 01:08 PM
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As Josh pointed out, I was just joking. Whenever Nintendo introduces variable color choices some people on here like to lable that "kiddy". God forbid people have a choice.

Here's the picture of the dev kit (Notice the extra air vents.) I was refering to:


Personally, I would love to see a black 360 in addition of the white one.
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Old 07-11-05, 01:19 PM
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Black, White...who cares really...I know you can change the face...wow

I guess I would like Silver to go with every other HT component these days.
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That's a funny thing about swappable face plates...you still have the other 80% or so of the console that's still in the original color and the controller too.

I'm sure some will have their 360 horizontally oriented into a HT system that way you won't even see too much of the sides or top.

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Call of Duty 2

PC vs. 360

What's with the detail difference between the two?

Edit: Added full rez 360 version.

Edit2: Fixed 360 pic.

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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Call of Duty 2

PC vs. 360

What's with the detail difference between the two?

Edit: Added full rez 360 version.
The link to the 360 picture isn't working.
The website must have taken the picture down.
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Originally Posted by Centurion
The link to the 360 picture isn't working.
The website must have taken the picture down.
I fixed the links, try again.
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