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Old 09-30-08, 08:32 PM
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I'd rather have other classic Disney titles first...but I have no choice but to recieve this disc (reviewer).
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Of all the Disney animated films, this should look the best, as it was shot in 70mm.
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Which is, you must admit, one of the more brilliant marketing ideas ever conceived.
Yeah, I agree. I think this is a great idea. I have tried to keep up with the Platinum releases (though I think I've slacked off, lately), and I was really wanting to get this BR release of Sleeping Beauty, but I haven't went Blu, yet. Having a DVD copy in it as well makes me actually consider purchasing it. That way I would, at least, have the DVD copy of this release. Though are any of the Platinum Edition special features on the DVD or just the movie, and even then, is there any difference in the Platinum release of the movie than the original DVD, since I already have that?
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the dvdbeaver comparison link has confirmed that it is in fact DTS-HD MA 7.1 sound !?!?

Disney's Sleeping Beauty

and an aspect ratio of 2.55:1

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the dvdbeaver comparison link has confirmed that it is in fact DTS-HD MA 7.1 sound !?!?

Disney's Sleeping Beauty

and an aspect ratio of 2.55:1

Damn. Those look amazing!
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oh and the Grand Canyon short is in HiDef as well -

the review does seem to confirm that the previous commentary is NOT on this edition - aw crap!

I have no prob with all these films that are getting released with 7.1 sound with four channels of sounds in the side and rear, but why not go with five channels of sound from the front, since many 70mm films (and 8 channel SDDS) were actually released as such.

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Originally Posted by Giles
I have no prob with all these films that are getting released with 7.1 sound with four channels of sounds in the side and rear, but why not go with five channels of sound from the front, since many 70mm films (and 8 channel SDDS) were actually released as such.
There are no home audio formats with 5 discrete channels across the front.
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Wow! Those screen captures are amazing!
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
There are no home audio formats with 5 discrete channels across the front.

oh I know that, but since there are more films actually encoded 5 front/two surround, you'd think that would have been an ideal 7.1 configurement, obviousily that would have to factor in that speakers could be placed "behind" the screen and not the typical /standard setup of left speaker, tv monitor/screen, center channel above or below, right speaker.
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Originally Posted by Giles
oh I know that, but since there are more films actually encoded 5 front/two surround, you'd think that would have been an ideal 7.1 configurement, obviousily that would have to factor in that speakers could be placed "behind" the screen and not the typical /standard setup of left speaker, tv monitor/screen, center channel above or below, right speaker.
I think they would be too close together to be worth it. The (extreme) left and right channels still would go near the sides of the screen; it wouldn't mean they would go way off to the sides. It would only work well in a theater with a large enough screen to provide some distance between the speakers. Some front projection setups could benefit, but not most with TVs. I just think having two extra surround channels does a lot more good than two extra fronts.

Although, I remember someone commenting that he has seen someone put 5 speakers from a HTIB on top of a TV. I guess that could be considered a way to have 5 front channels.
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I think they would be too close together to be worth it. The (extreme) left and right channels still would go near the sides of the screen; it wouldn't mean they would go way off to the sides. It would only work well in a theater with a large enough screen to provide some distance between the speakers. Some front projection setups could benefit, but not most with TVs. I just think having two extra surround channels does a lot more good than two extra fronts.

Although, I remember someone commenting that he has seen someone put 5 speakers from a HTIB on top of a TV. I guess that could be considered a way to have 5 front channels.

which related to the topic at hand, I'm really surprised that the new aspect ratio of Sleeping Beauty is 2.55, the only Disney animated film that I knew about they had filmed that way was 'Lady and the Tramp' is there evidence of cropping this go around, or is ther actual new left/right visual information? Considering this was released in 6-channel 70mm sound (five front/one rear) I'm sure some of the audio from said mix has been utlized for the new 7.1 soundmix.
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After just seeing this come in at work today, I might just have to pick it up. I love that they included a dvd copy as well. Thats a much better idea than a stupid digital copy, that won't be anymore to me than a coaster.
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Originally Posted by Giles
which related to the topic at hand, I'm really surprised that the new aspect ratio of Sleeping Beauty is 2.55, the only Disney animated film that I knew about they had filmed that way was 'Lady and the Tramp' is there evidence of cropping this go around, or is ther actual new left/right visual information? Considering this was released in 6-channel 70mm sound (five front/one rear) I'm sure some of the audio from said mix has been utlized for the new 7.1 soundmix.
I just picked this up from Fry's and the set looks pretty great, DVD included as a slip case shrinkwrapped to the BD case. But one huge thing I noiced was that 2.55 (was the previous release only 2.35?), but they call this out stating "Never-Before-Seen Expanded Version Of the Film" with a couple of screenshots that make it look like the previous version was 1.85 or something, but with the new version showing much more picture on the left and right sides. I guess I need to go back and look at the previous release - and laserdisc.
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You can look at the link 10 posts up for comparison shots.
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Those are comparison shots from the new release of the SD and BD. I'm curious to know what the previous SD release looks like compared to the BD - or even the new SD to see the framing differences.
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Ah, ok. I guess I didn't realize those were the new SD release that is also 2.55:1.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
I just picked this up from Fry's and the set looks pretty great, DVD included as a slip case shrinkwrapped to the BD case. But one huge thing I noiced was that 2.55 (was the previous release only 2.35?), but they call this out stating "Never-Before-Seen Expanded Version Of the Film" with a couple of screenshots that make it look like the previous version was 1.85 or something, but with the new version showing much more picture on the left and right sides. I guess I need to go back and look at the previous release - and laserdisc.

the film has been projected theatrically in 2.35

the 70mm engagements were 2.20

where the Disney folk found the extra sides for the 2.55 version is baffling to say the least.
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I also think that's another reason why they included the standard DVD along with it. Which oddly enough they included a lot of the extras from the BD like the music video "and more" according to the cardboard sleeve.
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Did anyone see the recent DLP El Capitan presentation? I would assume it would have been 2.55 as well.
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Looks like our own reviewer here on DVDTalk did it right. Here's some screenshot comparisons between the 2003 and today's release. It definitely shows more picture on the new release.

2003: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...23275552_3.jpg
2008: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...23273958_4.jpg

2003: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...23275552_4.jpg
2008: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...23273958_1.jpg
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there's definately more art on the sides, but also vertically as well.
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If this is how the classics will be treated, I think that we are in for a complete overhaul of our Disney Animated Libraries.

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If this is how the classics will be treated, I think that we are in for a complete overhaul of our Disney Animated Libraries.

Damn it.
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Well if that's the case, I hope they work on the titles that need platinum releases first.
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Next up for Disney Blu-Ray:

Pinocchio - Spring 2009
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves - Fall 2009
Beauty & the Beast - Spring 2010
Fantasia - Fall 2010
Fantasia 2000 - I'm guessing Fall 2010 as well. Can't see it sustaining without the original Fantasia beside it.


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