Star Wars
#2851
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re: Star Wars
Even going by your logic, which is fine, that still doesn't provide any real reasoning why, given the space was available, to not include the DVD extras anyway. It's one thing to want your money to go towards new content, which in the case of Lord of the Rings and Back to the Future, is minimal (I feel people are underestimating how much new content is really on the Alien Blus because they haven't really looked), but it's baffling to suggest that the additional inclusion of old content in addition to new content somehow de-values the set, which is essentially the only difference between what I wanted and what you're happy with. This too.
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I was watching the deleted scenes for Ep2. Are there more out there that haven't been included on the DVD and BD release? I remember seeing a couple of parts in a Ep2 trailers:
- OBI-Wan and Anakin arguing how Anakin hasn't learn't anything
- Jimmy Smits saying the line "We must stop them" or something like that.
- OBI-Wan and Anakin arguing how Anakin hasn't learn't anything
- Jimmy Smits saying the line "We must stop them" or something like that.
Just thought I'd re-quote to see if anyone knew the answer to this one.
#2853
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I was watching the deleted scenes for Ep2. Are there more out there that haven't been included on the DVD and BD release? I remember seeing a couple of parts in a Ep2 trailers:
- OBI-Wan and Anakin arguing how Anakin hasn't learn't anything
- Jimmy Smits saying the line "We must stop them" or something like that.
- OBI-Wan and Anakin arguing how Anakin hasn't learn't anything
- Jimmy Smits saying the line "We must stop them" or something like that.
http://www.theforce.net/episode2/cut/
The Bail Organa line "We must stop them before their ready," from the trailer is referenced.
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It's possible. I don't care enough about ep2 to bother cross checking them, but here's a pretty comprehensive list of deleted scenes from episode 2:
http://www.theforce.net/episode2/cut/
The Bail Organa line "We must stop them before their ready," from the trailer is referenced.
http://www.theforce.net/episode2/cut/
The Bail Organa line "We must stop them before their ready," from the trailer is referenced.
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#2855
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I watched Empire on my PS3 Slim tonight. I noticed once I loaded the disc, I heard a humming sound, like the disc was spinning much faster than normal. Once I got to the menu screen, it went away and sounded like it was spinning at the normal rate. I loaded A New Hope after I was done and it was silent the entire time it went to the menu screen.
Empire played fine and stayed quiet throughout the entire film. Anyone else ever get that humming/fast spinning type of noise?
Sometimes my Sony laptop will spin a disc very fast and it makes a humming like sound, so I don't know if it's a Sony thing or not.
Empire played fine and stayed quiet throughout the entire film. Anyone else ever get that humming/fast spinning type of noise?
Sometimes my Sony laptop will spin a disc very fast and it makes a humming like sound, so I don't know if it's a Sony thing or not.
#2857
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^ I get that with my PS3 (pfat) all the time. Spins v. fast until the disc menu loads. I'm surprised you never noticed it before.
#2858
re: Star Wars
I don't have the greatest hearing, and I was sitting up closer to watch Empire tonight.
#2859
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I definitely agree with this. If this bluray had all the old release bonus material from the DVDs, I would now regret ever buying those DVDs. When I buy something for my collection, I want to keep it, not feel remorse or sell it later. I say BRING ON MORE CHANGES Lucas. A new experience each time.
Now, going back to the days when a studio would release a barebones DVD, then Surprise! release a loaded special edition 6 months later: yeah, I would regret that bare bones release. But optical formats are pretty much archive formats by default. It's just frustrating to not have things carried over at this point.
#2860
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For T2, it was released in theatrical cut on LD, and then later the Special Edition cut. On DVD, it was first issued in the theatrical cut, and then the Ultimate and Extreme editions which had all 3 cuts available. On Blu-ray, it was first released with just the theatrical cut, and then later with the Skynet Edition all 3 cuts.
For the Abyss, it was first released in theatrical on LD, and then later released with the Special Edition cut. On DVD, for its only issuance, it was released with both cuts.
For Aliens, it was first released in its theatrical cut on LD, and then later the Special Edition cut. On DVD, it was first released in the Special Edition cut only on the Alien Legacy set, but later with both cuts on the Alien Quadrilogy set. On Blu-ray, it again has both cuts on the Alien Anthology.
So, in fact, out of those movies you cited, only Aliens was unavailable in its original theatrical cut on DVD, during the 4-year period between the release of Alien Legacy and Alien Quadrilogy.
#2861
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Just saw Ep IV.
WOW! 2,800+ posts, several in-depth reviews and no one mentions every blaster shot making a huge hot pink flash across the screen every time? And few posters and reviews that do mention it, they don't mention it as a BAD thing?
I'm jumping on the bandwagon here. ENOUGH Lucas!!! He's gone too far. Just give us the damn originals.
He'd probably get more sales if he did that. Everyone I mentioned this set to asked me if he was including the original versions on there. Everyone.
WOW! 2,800+ posts, several in-depth reviews and no one mentions every blaster shot making a huge hot pink flash across the screen every time? And few posters and reviews that do mention it, they don't mention it as a BAD thing?
I'm jumping on the bandwagon here. ENOUGH Lucas!!! He's gone too far. Just give us the damn originals.
He'd probably get more sales if he did that. Everyone I mentioned this set to asked me if he was including the original versions on there. Everyone.
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Really? Really??? Aside from blowing the money in support of a release you supposedly dislike, the video cuts out long before the discs even burn. If you're gonna make a video like this, show the sucker burn up!!
#2865
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If there WAS room on those bonus discs (and I'm not sure there is...they're pretty packed), I'd agree that there's no reason not to include some stuff from prior releases. But adding discs to this set to accomodate those bonus materials, and thus driving up the price of the set? No - as I said, I don't want to pay for stuff I already own, with the exception of materials that would have possibly been upgraded to 1080p if added.
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This! I have never understood why people want the old stuff that they already have to take up space on this new set. It isn't as if Fox / Lucasfilm would have made this a 15 disc set to accommodate the repeat features. They likely would have given us the old stuff and called it a release.
Just another reason for people to whine and bitch.
Just another reason for people to whine and bitch.
The spoofs doc has a lot of material that's not even HD. It's just being upconverted. Having that doc in standard definition would have allowed "From Star Wars to Jedi" and the extras from the three LD sets to fit on the existing disc 9.
People want the old stuff to carry over to another format because they don't want to hang onto dead formats like LD and VHS, and dying formats like DVD, nor should they have to.
You call it whining and bitching. I call it people expressing a very reasonable criticism of the set.
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I'll argue that it's better than any of the above sets (with the exception of Blade Runner...which is pretty nice) using the same arguements you do - it's BECAUSE there's nothing that smells of a "double dip" about this release that it's so good. There's little in the bonus materials (aside from the commentaries) that was on the DVDs - meaning I'm not paying $90 (I actually paid $55, but that's beside the point as YMMV) for a Blu-ray set where I already own more than 50% of the material on another format. Heck, even the movies are never the same twice. You can rant all you want about Lucas' changes to his films (and some of those rants are deserved), but you can't claim you're being scamed into buying something you already own, which was CERTAINLY the case for the LOTR set, the ALIEN set, and a significant chunk of the BTTF set.
I disagree. I think the fact that those sets carried over everything from the previous format makes them superior, at least in that respect. Although, I don't think the way they handled it with the LOTR release was what anyone had in mind.
Carrying over extras from a previous Blu-ray release would be double-dipping. Carrying over extras from dead formats like VHS and LD, and dying formats like DVD, is reasonable, shows consideration for the fans, and should be expected. When you consider the massive SD storage capacity on a single Blu-ray disc, it should be standard practice, especially in the case of Lucasfilm, as they own those extras and they don't require new transfers. I don't think people should be expected to have to hang onto dead formats just to be able to view previous special features.
Exactly. Considering that one additional BD-50 would've done the trick, we would have received all the extras currently included in the set in addition to the previous extras. It's not like people would be left with the choice of these new extras or the old. We could have and should have got both. 10 discs instead of the current 9.
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If there WAS room on those bonus discs (and I'm not sure there is...they're pretty packed), I'd agree that there's no reason not to include some stuff from prior releases. But adding discs to this set to accomodate those bonus materials, and thus driving up the price of the set? No - as I said, I don't want to pay for stuff I already own, with the exception of materials that would have possibly been upgraded to 1080p if added.
Considering that all of those extras are owned by Lucasfilm and are recent DVD releases, thus not requiring new transfers, the price increase would have been minimal. Probably $10 or less. Consider that we're getting 9 discs for $90 or less. A 10th disc would have minimally affected the price.
I don't think Disc 9 is filled to capacity either. The Spoofs doc is in HD yet most of the spoofs aren't HD. They're just upconverted and some look You Tube quality. Putting that doc on the disc in SD like 5 of the other docs would have opened up more space. This would have allowed the 4 hours worth of "From Star Wars to Jedi" and the three sets of LD extras to fit on Disc 9. 4 hours of SD material would take less than 9GB of space. We would have then had everything previously released to date.
I still shake my head at nearly three hours of spoofs and fans in costumes at the expense of "From Star Wars to Jedi" and other previous special features.
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And might as well burn the 6 TVs playing the movies too with the crappy 'motion enhancement" feature turned on.
#2873
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Technically, it didn't go to Lucas. If he bought it from a store like Target or Wal-Mart then they gave their money to Lucas. So, the 90 bucks only went to the store, which doesn't sound nearly as bad.
#2874
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#2875
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re: Star Wars
What an idiot to blow that money on it. Plus his food on the grill will taste awful from here on out.