PopcornTreeCt

I agree. As weird as it is, the 2 Ewok movies look and feel like they take place in the Star Wars universe far greater than the newer flicks.

On the topic of CGI, I watched ROTJ today and the Sarlacc Pitt is an eye sore. It looks like something out Jumanji. I wish they would've had fixed it or better yet taken it out altogether.

TGM

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Trout

Not buying the box set won't cost me anything, in fact it is saving me money...but you Lucas fan-boys will never learn, so keep feeding at the wang of George. Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.

Shannon Nutt

After watching it again, I agree that ROTS is actually as good as, if not slightly better than ROTJ. It's certainly the darkest of the six films in terms of tone, and everything from the "Order 66" scene forward through the end of the film is pretty good stuff. I wish all three prequels had been that dark.

That said, I STILL can't figure out the logic behind some of the events in AOTC and the first part of ROTS. Palpatine is basically pitting one army he's in command of (the Clones) versus another army he's in command of (Dooku's). Seems like an awful waste of resources/men to wait to long to excute "Order 66"...he basically wipes out his own army (Dooku's) before doing so. Then again, so much other stuff in the prequels doesn't make sense, I'm probably overthinking.

Shazam

The war allowed him to place clones everywhere, thus allowing military control of the republic. The trade federation doesn't seem to exist in the OT so they were destroyed, along with humanoids with asian accents.

Texan26

The Ewok movies had real animals like horses and ferrets. They look like they took place on Earth.

Jay G.

As Shazam stated, he's using the threat of an outside force to consolidate his power within the Republic. The Separatist army is basically a sacrificial pawn, similar to the Trade Federation army in TPM.

First in AOTC, he's granted emergency powers, crafting a clone army that he secretly has total control over. Then in ROTS, he uses the threat of the Separatists and the Jedi "attacking" him to get the Republic to form an Empire, with him as Emperor. Order 66 was part of his plan for securing his position as Emperor, as Jedi were a major threat against him.

leem6453

I thought Palpatine/Darth Sideous was the most interesting aspects of the PT, and he really shines in ROTS.

Jason

Or the OT takes place exclusively in remote areas of space outside the presence of the Trade Federation. Tattooine is controlled by the Hutts, Yavin IV, Hoth, Dagobah, and Endor are undeveloped worlds, Bespin is too small to be noticed, and the Death Star is a military base. Could be why we don't see all the shiny, high tech stuff we saw on Naboo and Courscant too.

But I'm sure that the Emperor pretty much wiped them out, along with all those other goofy professional associations.

georgec

There is no logic in the prequels, honestly. The scripts were rushed and unedited, largely formed around a vast array of toy ideas and general plot elements that had to take place. Storytelling and character development are nil in lieu of CGI-laden imagery.. As McCallum said, "It's so dense. Every image has so much going on..."

ScissorPuppy

AOTC - Scene in palps office. End of steps, left side of screen.
26:13-26:14

Thought it was a effects render issue that was only on the Blu Ray, turns out it's on the dvd too.

When "lil" Annie and Palps are walking away from the window the camera pans with them towards the steps. The tracking of the last step and column is off, then suddenly it snaps into place. Sure it's fast, but how does this stuff get missed? Better yet, how does this get missed for 9 years while they are "fixing" other stuff?

packaok

I have no problem whatsoever with people who don't enjoy the prequels or the SE's. Heck, I have no problem with people who don't like Star Wars.

What I have a problem with are people who continue to jump up and down and wave their arms in the air screaming "I HATE THE SE'S, GL RAPED MY CHILDHOOD, YOU PEOPLE WHO BUY THE BLU-RAY SETS ARE THE PROBLEM, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!111ONE!!!111ONE, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!!!"

If you choose not to own this, fine. But, for God's sake, the Blu-rays have now been out 12 days and these idiots are STILL HANGING OUT ON THIS THREAD, SPEWING VENOM. In the mean time, the Blu-rays have set all kinds of sales records and people who actually own them LOVE THEM. The sad part is that the owners can't actually come here and discuss the sets because we have to wade through the posts of the haters who cannot seem to get over the fact that their opinions DO NOT MATTER to George Lucas or those of us who happen to love the new sets.

Michael Corvin

Getting way off topic, but mcnabb simply took issue with being called a hater and your argument is to call him a hater again? Genius!

nmr1723

If you can't take it then find a thread somewhere that talks only about all the technical aspects of the Blu-rays and how "amazing" they are. The reason this forum is so f'n great is the freedom to post almost whatever we want...and that almost everything is "on topic".

And...the only people that bring up the "GL raped my childhood" crap are the SE and PT lovers. I haven't heard someone on the OOT side of things say this for years.

I own this set (thank you B&N) and I'm glad I do. "The Clone Wars" series brought some of that love for "Star Wars" back into my life. I don't hate the PT or the SEs...but I don't love them either...they are simply tolerable at this point. Thankfully...I don't get that pissed off about SW anymore. I have the almost originals in great quality (Harmy Editions) to watch when I just can't stomach the SE changes.

Just to try and stay "on topic"...the audio in this set is absolutely phenomenal so far. I've only watched "The Phantom Menace" and "The Empire Strikes Back"...but I'm very impressed...

packaok

My point is that such a place is hard to find because all of the "LOOK AT ME" types invade the thread and make everyone miserable!

And, yes, the audio is unbelievable...

Shannon Nutt

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say certain ILM divisions are assigned different sections of the movie? It's the only way to explain how the escape pod cover in A NEW HOPE gets painted black when the droids get out, but is still blue when the stormtroopers arrive to investigate.

Doctorossi

I know! I can't believe Vader says "Nooooooooooooo" again.

Spiderbite

But isn't this a public forum? Aren't all posts meant to be read which makes every comment a "look at me" post?

And you comment about "make everyone miserable" should be changed to make "you" miserable. I personally find others people's opinions of these releases or other BD releases interesting or else I wouldn't be reading the thread or hanging out at this forum.

Quit taking stuff so seriously. Take a deep breath and move on. It just a BD release.

Fok

I can understand why folks aren't buying this set and have no issue with it. However, I think they are missing out to a certain extent in regards to the extra's and the picture and audio quality of the release. In my mind, this complements the other DVD releases. I realize that its ideal to be able to replace your old DVDs with the BD version, but unfortunately that is not (and probably will never be) possible. It's a free world, if folks are happy not to purchase the BD then that's fine (as some of the changes are pretty fucking stupid). For the folks who did buy the BD and are happy, that's fine too, its no skin off anyones back

BuckNaked2k

^ It's a trade-off. You pick your poison and go with it. If the technical aspects are what drive you, and you can live with Greedo shooting, HC Force Ghost, busy Mos Eisley, Extra Jabba, new rocks, replaced music, Noooooo!, etc, etc, then the Blu-rays are for you.

Personally, I like the OT films the way they were, warts and all. So, I will live with the non-anamorphic DVDs, Adyway edits, Harmy editions, etc. I guess I'm a purist and I don't enjoy revisionism. Heck, I won't buy the Last Emperor Blu-ray, because the idiotic DP chopped off the sides. So I suffer with my R2 PAL DVD with a very high compression rate unless/until they release the film in its proper A/R.

fumanstan

I can see a bit of what he means though. There are the same people who repeatedly come back to the thread just to reiterate they're not buying the set over and over again.

Nick Martin

Yet he's the only one here with all of the "LOOK AT MEEE" posts he's complaining about.

I'm throwing his ass on ignore. Public forum all right, and we're all entitled to ignore people who annoy, just like I'm going to ignore him.

mcnabb

You're the one who stated that 'fans like me' are missing out on a great set because we're haters.

So essentially you were inviting all the fans who didn't buy it to respond to your original statement If you're sick of the haters, why even acknowledge them

fumanstan

Not the only one if you understand what he's complaining about, but yes, there's no reason for his posts either.

BuckNaked2k

BTW....who uses the term "haters" other than 12 year-old chicks?