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Old 09-03-11, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyOhhhh
In the end, the Star Wars saga is the rise and fall of George Lucas as a filmmaker and story teller
A Downfall, if you will...
Old 09-03-11, 12:16 PM
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I've decided that I probably won't boycott this release, but the changes (mostly the "NOOOOOO") bother me enough that I'll wait until a time that I can buy it at a sub-$50 price.
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How funny would it be if they end up taking this new version OOP right after release and were to do a free swap of ROTJ discs for non-"NOOOOOOOO" versions - making this version the ultimate collectable!

Won't happen, but fun to speculate.
Old 09-03-11, 12:34 PM
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Lucas reminds me of when I first started out as a writer. I revised my very first short story after it had already been published and was very proud of the changes. My agent read it and said:

"I don't ever want you to do this again. If you do, you will never write anything new for the rest of your life."
Old 09-03-11, 01:42 PM
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too bad you don't have the Lucas power at the moment..or do you? *raised eyebrow*
Old 09-03-11, 01:59 PM
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Most of the changes from 1997 through 2004 haven't bothered me much, but some of the changes he's made now really are bothering the hell out of me. Mainly the stupid "NOOO", what is the reason for it? I'm very sure he is aware of the outcry over Vader saying that in ROTS so why would he include AGAIN in a movie where it was NEVER present?? Does he even listen to his fans? Sorry, that was a stupid question.
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I often wonder what the work environment is like over at Lucasfilms. I mean, there's no way all his employees approve of these changes. I'm willing to bet most hate them. Is he so insulated by glad-handing bullshitters that nobody dares to contend his ideas?

I realize that's more than likely a rhetorical question.
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I'll keep my preorder, but that's only because it was about $48 at BN.
Old 09-03-11, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
I've decided that I probably won't boycott this release, but the changes (mostly the "NOOOOOO") bother me enough that I'll wait until a time that I can buy it at a sub-$50 price.
And this will likely be the answer for most folks. It's easy to boycott at 90 bucks. Three years from now, when it's obvious that this is the only HD answer available and the price has dropped, you'll see folks caving right and left.
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
I often wonder what the work environment is like over at Lucasfilms. I mean, there's no way all his employees approve of these changes. I'm willing to bet most hate them. Is he so insulated by glad-handing bullshitters that nobody dares to contend his ideas?

I realize that's more than likely a rhetorical question.
A former LFL employee had this to say:

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/phi...&wssaffid=news

Movies.com: Us fans bitch and moan and gripe whenever George Lucas starts messing with Star Wars again, but is that something effects people who actually worked on the film feel? Are we the only ones who think he's a crazy person?

Phil Tippett: No, not really. At a certain point, even going back to Return of the Jedi at ILM...they had a little room where you could get chips and drinks and I was getting something. George and Richard Marquand, the director, came in and Richard was saying, "George, I don't totally get where we need to go with this picture." And George said, "Well, did you see Benji?" "No George, I didn't see Benji." "Well, what we're doing now is kind of like a cross between Benji and what we did on Empire Strikes Back."

Also in the same article he was much more brief about the new versions:

"They're shit", and he loved Lucas' original, Sergio Leone-like approach to shooting Mos Eisley as this minimal, barren place and how now it's just "filled with a bunch of... CGI shit."
Old 09-03-11, 05:32 PM
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Old 09-03-11, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
A former LFL employee had this to say:

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/phi...&wssaffid=news




Also in the same article he was much more brief about the new versions:

"They're shit", and he loved Lucas' original, Sergio Leone-like approach to shooting Mos Eisley as this minimal, barren place and how now it's just "filled with a bunch of... CGI shit."
I was lucky enough to see Phil do the Q&A at the Alamo Drafthouse this past week after Jurassic Park. It was great! I have been following him since all those behind the scenes documentaries for the original films. You know, the ones Lucas doesn't was on the new discs . . .
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And this will likely be the answer for most folks. It's easy to boycott at 90 bucks. Three years from now, when it's obvious that this is the only HD answer available and the price has dropped, you'll see folks caving right and left.
Well, as someone who has refused to buy these abominations till we get a respectable release of the originals, I haven't bought them since VHS. Fuck caving in.

For destroying something I love, George Lucas has all the hate I can muster from the depths of my being.
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Originally Posted by mdnitoil
And this will likely be the answer for most folks. It's easy to boycott at 90 bucks. Three years from now, when it's obvious that this is the only HD answer available and the price has dropped, you'll see folks caving right and left.
And it probably won't take anywhere near 3 years.
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Wow, this set is currently rocking a 2 star rating on Amazon.
The people are speaking!
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Originally Posted by Drexl
And it probably won't take anywhere near 3 years.
Not that this is a badge of honor, but I haven't bought a SW release since the original and SE VHS sets were released. It's not that hard if you just remember how shitty some of the changes are.

(For the sake of full disclosure, I did rent the originals from Netflix--the bonus discs with the LD copies.)
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
Wow, this set is currently rocking a 2 star rating on Amazon.
The people are speaking!
OH NO! Lucasfilm is going to go out of business!!!
Old 09-03-11, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
Wow, this set is currently rocking a 2 star rating on Amazon.
The people are speaking!
I wouldn't get too excited but I think there will definitely be a backlash. I think this will easily be the least sold Star Wars video release.
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Originally Posted by The Monkees
Most of the changes from 1997 through 2004 haven't bothered me much, but some of the changes he's made now really are bothering the hell out of me. Mainly the stupid "NOOO", what is the reason for it? I'm very sure he is aware of the outcry over Vader saying that in ROTS so why would he include AGAIN in a movie where it was NEVER present?? Does he even listen to his fans? Sorry, that was a stupid question.
Lucas always wanted that "NOOOO" to be in ROTJ, but he just couldn't do it with 1983 technology. He's now restored the scene to his original vision.
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Did the DVD sets with the Original Versions get taken out of print? They're going for crazy money on Amazon.
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Yes, they're out of print. But 30 bucks each isn't exactly "crazy money."
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Compared to what you can get them for elsewhere it is!
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Phil Tippett:... And George said, "Well, did you see Benji?" "No George, I didn't see Benji." "Well, what we're doing now is kind of like a cross between Benji and what we did on Empire Strikes Back."
Hey George, what the fuck does that evem mean?
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
A former LFL employee had this to say:

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/phi...&wssaffid=news




Also in the same article he was much more brief about the new versions:

"They're shit", and he loved Lucas' original, Sergio Leone-like approach to shooting Mos Eisley as this minimal, barren place and how now it's just "filled with a bunch of... CGI shit."
I don't know who this Phil Tippett loser is, but he needs to move out of his mom's basement and get a life.
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Originally Posted by The Valeyard
Yes, they're out of print. But 30 bucks each isn't exactly "crazy money."
It's not a crazy amount but it is a lot for standard DVD's with pretty sub-par transfers of the original, original trilogy.


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