AmityBoatTours

Yeah i wouldnt count on that either, if he were to stand by that he would owe me 20 bucks as well, I have my ticket from the premiere matted and framed and signed by Mathew Broderick, Don Hahn,Elton John, James Earl Jones, Nathan Lane and Ernie Sabella.

Mabuse

If the touch-ups, re-animation, and re-drawing have been reversed in the 3D version then that is great news and a step in the right direction...but it's still in 3D which is a massive alteration to a film that was never intended to be seen that way.

I hope you're right about the IMAX changes being reversed. So just to clarify, I'm not talking about Morning Report. I'm talking about the Mufasa clouds and the aligators during I Just Can't Wait... Those have all been switched back to how they looked in 1994? That would be great.

NoirFan

Except when it comes to your posts.

AmityBoatTours

I Primarily mentioned morning report because that was the most obvious change to the film made back then. yes what you are talking about with the cloud formation animation with mufasa along wtih the aligators in I just cant wait to be king are as they were in the original theatrical release (aside from it being in 3D of course)and laser disc release. aside from some additional score music being placed over the end credits to accomidate for the added "3D special release" crew members.

anyways getting back to what i said no one is forecing you to watch it in 3D, you can watch it in 2D, you get both options so to me complaining about it in 3D is unnecessary, you have the choice not to watch it that way.

AmityBoatTours

whatever man, iam posting on a forum from my phone, i am sure your posts are always perfect to. geesh got to love when a persons only defense is to nitpick because someone doesnt always have perfect grammar and spelling on thread on an annonomous forum. (which arent their rules about that in the posting guidelines.)

Travis McClain

I didn't introduce my "concerns" to hijack this thread. I framed the discussion in terms of why I can't make myself see this as a travesty in life the way you do. If this is one of the most egregious acts perpetrated against you in your life, that's terrific. But you sound like a spoiled little snot saying, "I don't want to hear about any real problems because I'm obsessing over whether Disney has re-colored The Lion King."

Who decides? The people who own the movie. If you want to control a work of art, become an artist or at least a studio executive. Otherwise, accept that it's out of your hands and move on with your life. Want to send Disney a message? Take your own advice and go to another website altogether. I suggest Disney's Facebook page, which they actually do monitor.

One more thing: Don't accuse me of standing in the way of you getting what you want from a company that owes you nothing. I haven't directed any statement toward Disney calling for them to withhold from you the original composition. I have, however, failed in my feeble attempt to contextualize how important this issue really is.

I do not speak for all fans, and neither do you. This kind of debate serves the purpose of helping to define the seriousness of the issue to fans of the film at large.

I give. You want to rant and rave in Hyperboleland, have at it.

Mabuse

You're totally right. And if the releases undoes all the changes from the IMAX release then the 2D DVD really will be the ideal viewing experience.

It's funny. You can tell 3D isn't the "be all end all". When Disney "spruced up" Lion King for IMAX they made all these "ideal changes". Ten years latter they remove all those changes and make new 3D changes. I'm sure in 10 more years when 3D is done they'll undo those changes. As long as we get the original film when the dust settles then I can't complain.

The Monkees

Does it come in the BD case or the DVD case? The advertisement on DMC looks like the DVD case and I'd prefer the BD case.

John Galt

They have both available. Just make sure you order the right one.

grim_tales

I hope the 1977 Winnie the Pooh comes to Blu too

The Monkees

Yeah I saw that after I posted my question. Thanks!

Josh Z

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. George Lucas to the DVDTalk forum.

Who appointed you the arbiter who gets to decide that substantial changes to the artwork and animation of the movie "don't affect the artistic merits of the film," pray tell?

Travis McClain

If I was George Lucas, I wouldn't even bother with DVD or Blu-ray. I'd just have my own personal theater and keep 35mm prints of the movies I wanted to watch. Instead of commentary tracks, I'd have the people who made the movies come over and talk to me while we watched it.

Also, I was appointed by the bastion of film merits, Armond White. I cannot explain how this happened, any more than I can explain why I'm right and you're wrong. You're just going to have to defer to me and accept it.

More seriously, though, I believe it's pretty solid and reasonable position to put forward that technical clean-ups are a different class of tweaks from story changes. "Morning Report" is the only story change cited thus far in this thread. Everything else amounts to a technical clean-up. If we were discussing a live action movie, most of these things wouldn't merit much more than, "Oh, they fixed that" reaction. It's a mistake to view animation as so different that its technical components are story components.

Josh Z

Re-drawing the characters and re-animating entire sequences from the movie are not "technical clean-ups." They're revisionism, just like replacing the original models and miniatures in Star Wars with CGI is revisionism.

jjcool

Agreed. It is like calling switching a gun for a walkie talkie "technical cleanup".

AmityBoatTours

the 3D version is the actual original theatrical release, no morning report, no changed animated sequences etc.
the only difference is that its been converted to 3D, and they did an excellent job at that.

can we get back to what i intended this thread to be, and not bicker about this anymore, its obvious neither of you are going to change the other ones opinon, if i had known that posting my thoughts of the 3D screening of Lion King I went to was going to cause this back and fourth i would have just kept what i saw to myself, and to my friends.
geesh you would think this was highdefdigest or something.

John Galt

AmityBoatTours, I, for one, am glad you posted about the 3D screening and am looking forward to it myself.

Mabuse

Yeah, Amity. I'm glad you posted. It's great to hear that the changes made for IMAX have been undone. I just hope you're right. Thank you for posting.

Giles

according to Dolby's website The Lion King has not only undergone the 3D process but the soundmix is now discrete 7.1 (as well as the bluray edition)

AmityBoatTours

That is indeed true, as it was presented in 7.1 durring the screening.

Roybq

From Laughingplace.com. Not exactly "animated classics" but I'll probably upgrade my current versions.

Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, Chicken Little, G-Force Coming to 3D Blu-Ray Nov 8

(August 5, 2011) Leading the way in the advancement of 3D entertainment and continuing its commitment to the growing Blu-ray 3D™ market, The Walt Disney Studios today announced release plans to add four new titles to its growing in-home Blu-ray 3D line-up.

Among the popular films making their Blu-ray 3D debuts are Bolt, Chicken Little,G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, all releasing on November 8th. The four new Disney Blu-ray 3D releases have been packaged as Disney Blu-ray Combo Packs, satisfying the multitude of viewing habits across the household whether it’s 3D, 2D, Blu-ray, DVD and/or mobile devices.

“In early January, Disney announced an aggressive plan to bring a wide variety of 3D content to consumers’ in-home experiences,” commented Lori MacPherson, Executive Vice President, Global Product Management, The Walt Disney Studios. “These latest Disney Blu-ray 3D releases all deliver the most superior in-home 3D viewing capabilities, and by offering the films in Combo Packs, we are continuing to provide families with exceptional value, quality, and versatility in a single purchase.”

Bolt, Chicken Little, G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, will all join the studios unparalleled catalog of 3D in-home movies which include Tim Burton’s The Nightmare Before Christmas (releasing August 30, 2011), The Lion King: Diamond Edition (releasing October 4, 2011), Beauty and the Beast (releasing October 4, 2011), Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (releasing October 18, 2011), Gnomeo & Juliet (released May 24, 2011), TRON: Legacy(released April 5, 2011), Tangled (released March 29, 2011), Tim Burton’s Alice In Wonderland (released December 7, 2010), Step Up 3D (released December 21, 1010), and Disney’s A Christmas Carol (released November 16, 2010).

milo bloom

I thought I was going nuts. I found a used copy of this a week or so ago at Half Price Books, and then I start seeing it in the ads for release next Tuesday so I was thinking it was just a re-release. Weird that someone would get it as an exclusive and then sell it off so quickly.

FYI, it's in a DVD sized case with a two disc swing arm for the extra discs.

AmityBoatTours

Actually Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, and Chicken Little are apart of the animated classics line.
thanks for posting this on the animated classics thread. i was wondering when we would finally see 3D blu releases of Meet the Robinsons and Chicken Little. I allready have the sony 3D blu exclusive of Bolt.

Travis McClain

We received it from DMC last week in a Blu-ray sized case. The person who traded in that copy to HPB must not have switched their format preference to Blu-ray. Also, it's entirely possible they didn't mean to even get it. We didn't mean to get it--I'm almost certain I declined it in time--but since it's one we did want, we decided to keep it. You can get a full refund by returning titles to DMC, but if the recipient was impatient and wanted/needed cash on hand, maybe they decided it was better to take what HPB would pay for it.

The Monkees

Incorrect. I thought the same thing but if you buy it at DMC you have your choice and you should also have a choice when you get it in a retail store of a DVD case or a BD case.