FrankTheTank

Just got back from seeing it a second time, and it was just as great. This is easily the best film I have seen all year! Congratulations to Raimi and the entire cast.

Tafellappen

You're forgetting

6. Eat cake

Snowmaker

Yeah, but the cake scene really had nothing to do with the story. I could see if it went somewhere, but she basically took his dish, ... end of scene.

Patman

A precursor to Peter having his cake and eating it too... (w/r/t MJ)

badger1997

What description are they going to sell? Young with brown hair? There isn't much they could sell in my opinion. And even if they do, so what? Like others have said, who could pick him out from the millions of people walking down the street in New York? You go to Empire State or wherever he goes to school and they'd probably see a dozen people they would think is Spidey's real identity.

As for the landlord's daughter, I thought that was just to show Peter that people do care about him. It's a down point in his life and a little niceness (especially from a good-looking girl) is appreciated during those times. And it also I thought showed him that MJ ain't the only woman in the world. Sometimes when you are totally obsessed with a person, you tend to miss that there are other options out there.

jonjj7

Just got back from seeing the film.

I am going to have to agree with the poster who mentioned the screaming women thing. I thought it was really distracting and completely unnecessary. It just felt really corny everytime it happened.

I did like the operating room scene, though. And the homage to Army of Darkness (the chainsaw) was great. Although, that scene definitely had a horror movie feel to it, and it did seem a little out of palce.

Pretty good film, but I don't think it is the "greatest superhero film ever" like the critics are saying.

Ketamine

I don't really care on this issue but Peter Parker is obviously more than just an average New Yorker. Even kids on the street know him as the guy who takes Spiderman's pictures. If kids know who he is, then it is likely that at least a few people on that train know who PP is and can now make the connection. The movie is counting on the fact that he saved those people's lives and they will agree to keep it quiet. The fact that they stood up to Doc Ock even though they knew they had no chance and had a good chance of death shows that they may keep it quiet for the good of the city. His identity out in the open obviously puts him in harms way which would be bad for the city in the long run.

Giantrobo

I see your point. I guess I just blamed it on Peter's "Missing a HUGE opportunity"..... Nothing else needed to be said.

Giantrobo

So far it is...


I think this movie finally did something everyone's been bitching about for the last 10 to 15 years or at least since CGI became common place....IT RELIED ON A STRONG OR AT LEAST A VERY VERY STRONG CHARACTER DRIVEN STORY and the SFX were secondary......



IMHO of course

fumanstan

That's awfully optimistic, considering artist renditions of criminals and such from witnesses. Sure they look terrible, but i think its awfully naive to think that every single in a person would keep a secret like that. And the other poster who responded to your post is correct as well... considering Peter Parker's name is attached to every Spider-Man photo, it wouldn't be hard to make a connection, even by accident.

Anyway, there's no point in overanalyzing it. But the point is that you just don't see comic book characters let their identities be revealed that easily. Unless of course, you're Batman and you tell every chick that you screw in the movies

Ketamine

I think the truth is that this is a movie in a series that will at best be 5-6 movies long. While in the comics with hundreds of issues, keeping his identity quiet is a much bigger deal. Obviously most/all the villians that super heroes fight in the comics can't know who they are b/c they aren't all killed at the end of the movie/comic. Even if they are, they eventually come back and would have too big of an advantage in killing Spiderman if they knew who he was and who his friends were. Much easier to make it a non-issue over 5 movies than hundreds of comics. My guess is that other than MJ and Harry, people knowing his identity will not come up in the next movie. Just trust in the goodness in people's hearts (I know it’s a stretch) and just believe that they wouldn't say anything and enjoy the movie. Like I said before, the fact that they weren't using anesthesia for Doc Ock's surgery is a bigger issue to me that the mask thing.

Jackskeleton

Well the one thing that is a nightmare to any criminal artist is various witnesses. Infact that will kill any possible chance of getting an accurate discription on the suspect. This is a fact. the more people you have that have seen him, the more different takes they will have on the said person. It's safe to assume parkers identity is safe. Besides, who the hell knows how a certain photographer for a picture looks like? You really don't since they are behind the camera.

Another person mentioned it and I agree. You have his identity a secret through years and years of comics. you sum it down to a film where the villian dies then it's not that big of a deal.

Ketamine

I agree that it may be difficult to get an accurate composite picture of PP due to the situation. I would guess if they had differing opinions of what he looks like, then they would do multiple pics and put them out. The fact is though that even kids on the street recognize PP as the guy who takes Spiderman's picture. I'm sure the adults on the train also know who he is if random kids know him. Again, I think it is really a non-issue and the best way to explain it is those people who did know him won't say anything.

fumanstan

Yeah, i understand, which is why i said its all pretty much overanalyzing, since i'm trying to think of a realistic reaction from people that are watching a kid who can climb on walls Although, Ketamine does have a point, as even random kids knew Peter as the "guy who takes Spider-Man's pictures." I guess for me, a large part of superheroes have been the whole "secret identity" thing, and for it to be a throw-away was a bit of a stretch for me, even if the stories do have to be condensed in a movie versus in print.

But like i said, its just a small annoyance that i have, just like others dislike the operation scene or Peter/MJ's relationship. Still a great movie

Tafellappen

From now on, I think we should refer to the landlord's daughter as Olive Oyl.

NYSoprano

I didn't read all 10 pages of this thread but i saw SP:2 last night with a couple of friends and we all thought it was bad. The acting was b-quality.

gmal2003

Great film, very few good films (S-M) have MUCH better sequels (S-M 2) but this one did.Chacter development was superb. Dock Ock was perfect.

atari2600

i LOVED the elevator scene...i was dying of laughter the more i kept thinking about it. and how they made small talk - freaking helarious.

what i didnt like was the continuous up close women screaming horror fest thing they had going...once was enough!

Dabaomb

when I went to see it, everyone in the theater was laughing at the landlord and the cake girl's scenese too.

The reason I was laughin' was that she was so dam skinny and imho ugly. I thought that that's why others were laughin' too but I guess maybe it was just me.

atari2600

why would you even think that? what di dyou expect harry to find - someone ELSES costume? jsut because he found his dads costume, doesnt mean he will use it. in fact he will make his own for his own identity.

Dr. DVD

Okay....a case of dyslexia here.


Seriously though, Harry pretty much used his dad's costume in the comics, and I see no reason for him to change it. I would love to see a more bad a$$ glider though.
As others have said, I don't think that Harry's GG should be the only villain of III. Peter sees Harry as a friend (or did), and Connors as a mentor. Having both of them gunning for you would make his problems that much greater and complex.

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if III more or less winds up being MJ's story. IT seemed to set that up in the last frame of film.

Ketamine

I can see Harry using MJ as bait to get Spiderman with the help of The Lizard as the dumb brute sidekick. Harry knows of the relationship and it seems he is losing it enough to use her on top of the fact that he is likely hurt that she dumped him. GG II will have Spiderman in a situation that he is about to kill him when the Lizard goes out of control and will try to kill MJ. Harry, seeing this will regain his senses and save her at the cost of his own life.

My hope is that they can keep the entire costume (flaws and all) as long as they change the mask. More than anything, I hated the fact that you couldn't see a mouth moving when GG talked. I thought the scene in SM 1 where both GG and Spiderman were on the roof was horrible and reminded me of a Kung Fu film with dubbed line due to the fact that you couldn't see either of their mouths moving.

nchhabra

Hahaha. That is exactly what I was thinking. I saw him on his belly and looked over to see no ET tube and no MDA. Of course most times there is a surgery in movies or TV, they at most have a mask, even if they are operating on the head and neck. But nevertheless always makes me wonder.

Jackskeleton

stop getting your facts wrong. it's not a random kid on the street, it's the neighbor's kid who is helping aunt may. there is a difference. Your neighbors are told of your popularity by old ladies just like aunt may. You think the chick isn't going to call the whole area and brag about peter and his success of taking spidey's pictures? So most likely everyone on that block knows peter as the kid who takes those award winning spidey pictures but the average joe on the street and the average kid wont know who the hell peter is or the fact that he takes pictures for some news paper.

either way, too many witnesses and some level of respect for saving their asses from death will silence them.

Giantrobo

apparently ya'll are runnin' out of shit to complain about