FRwL

TPM is probably the best prequel based on that, it does come closer to the original trilogy than the next 2.

TGM

lol whut? the only thing TPM has in common with the original trilogy is the opening crawl.

milo bloom

Sigh. 4/6 would benefit greatly from tweaks and additions and the other two would benefit from being revised to their original state. Again with this idea that Lucas can be aware that something may need changing, but be absolutely clueless about what exactly that is.

ViewAskewbian

I don't buy it. I, of course, love the original trilogy, Ewoks and all. I dislike the prequel trilogy. I loved the Clone Wars cartoon. I just started watching the new Clone Wars (actually just finished season 1 10 minutes ago) and I really like that (ummm, even Jar Jar has his moments ).

Christ, I don't know what age I'm supposed to be, George!!!

calhoun07

Why can't we just get new movies? The Force Unleashed games are better than all three prequels together. I would pay to see a good Force Unleashed movie in 3-D. A Jedi taking down a Star Destroyer in 3-D or Jar Jar getting his face farted into in 3-D? You decide and let me know what you think.

gmanca

Exactly, just make more movies based in that universe.

BobSchlapowitz

I'd rather they were just re-released in 2D, but whatever.

Jedi Master 33

If by universally hated you mean hated by internet fanboys who have nothing better to do than nitpick every little stupid detail, then yes

TGM

no, I meant hated by 99% of Star Wars fans, save for those few remaining Lucas knob-swabbers that have since Jedi Mind tricked themselves into liking the shitty prequel trilogy.

mcnabb

I don't even recognize the internet when it comes to discussions on SW because it is such a small sampling.

I have alot of friends who are big SW fans and all of them really didn't like TPM, yet none of them post on the internet but me. Now they don't hate it simply because they don't think about it anymore. Most of them who grew up with the OT gave up on the Prequels after Episode II. I remember most of them didn't even bother with Episode III. Again, its not any hatred for Lucas like you hear on the internet, they just thought the movies were pretty bad, and really moved on.

Jedi Master 33

I didn't know you were the spokesperson for that 99% of SW fans.




And for the record, Revenge of the Sith is pretty awasome

Anubis2005X

Oh dear heavens, I completely forgot about the fart scene! I remembered he stepped in a pile of crap, but completely blocked out the awful farting part. Why George, whyyyyyy???

TGM

just the ones with any sense.

RD1973

I don't understand why more people aren't like your friends. If you think the movies suck, that's fine. Just move on to something else! Its been 11 years for God's sake!

I remember really looking forward to Sphere, for example. I had read the book and really enjoyed it. Barry Levinson was directing. The cast was great. I thought it was going to be something special. Then I saw that train wreck. Sure, I was really disappointed....FOR ABOUT A WEEK. After that I never gave it another thought.

I'm really just curious. Are you prequel bashers masochists? Or do you just like raining on other people's parade?

Jay G.

The problem is that the prequels are inextricably tied to 1-3 movies that these fans do like. The Blu-rays are coming out, but in a 6-pack. They're getting theatrically re-released, but prequels first. And then, Lucas goes in and makes changes to the OT specifically due to the prequels, such as changing Boba Fett's voice or Anakin's force ghost, making the prequels that much harder to ignore, and hurting the OT's quality in the process.

It's like if Sphere was tied to a film you like, and any time that film you liked was brought up, so was Sphere. The film is only available on Blu-ray in a two-pack with Sphere. And changes were made to the film you like to fit it within the universe of Sphere. You'd go from ignoring Sphere to wishing it were never made and cursing the people responsible for fucking with the movie you like.

Jay G.

It may be "awasome," but it wasn't in any way a good movie. The movie had the most epic plotline of any Star Wars film, and managed to fuck up the delivery of said plot.

Giles

and I'm sure he'll get his soundmixers to redo all the film in 7.1 as well for the 3D versions as well ...

GenPion

I'm 21 and I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post, including the shout out to that N64 game. I just couldn't agree more with your thoughts.

I think George Lucas must literally be one of the most out of touch director's of all time. He seriously doesn't seem to understand his audience, nor does he try to, and it's clear with the prequels he didn't even understand his own films greatest strengths.

Solid Snake

Alright..well I'm 24. And I saw the OT on VHS a few times...I couldn't forget them after the 1st time. They were just the kind of films you don't forget..though..even at a young age...I hated the Ewoks. Phantom Menace was cool looking and I loved it as a kid. Growing up...yeah...I could see it's flaws.

He has to be out of touch without a doubt.

acdcrocks1980

I don't understand how people are so upset. We've known he has been converting them to 3D for YEARS. Last year, one of the hosts on diggnation said he was shown the opening of A New Hope in 3D when they toured skywalker ranch.

wm lopez

How is it people get all upset when Lucas changes his work of art from the past, but nobody said nothing all those years when rappers were changing great music from the 70's using it in their songs.

Nesbit

Do you mean sampling? If so there's NO connection.

Musicians who sample (and they're not all rappers) don't replace the song you love with a different one and tell you that what you've been listening to for years is wrong.

RD1973

But you can still like the originals and ignore the prequels. The OT Special Editions were made before the prequels came out. Since the prequels, 3 minor references have been added to the Special Edition OT: Hayden's force ghost, Boba's new voice and "Wesa free!" Its nothing to get too upset over.

I guess I just don't get the anger towards Lucas, but then again I like the prequels. They're not as good as the originals, but they are much better than the average summer movie.

As for being pissed that we have to get all six together in a box set, deal with it. I got the Superman DVD boxset because it rocked overall (even if it included Superman 3 and Superman 4, which are truly horrible movies). And there are plenty of shitty Bond movies in the 007 collection sets. But you don't see much of an uproar over that.

I'm just tired of the fanboy bitching. Watch them or don't watch them. Buy them or don't buy them. But stop whining. Its like listening to a friend cry about that girl that broke his heart 5 years ago.

Jay G.

You can try, but not successfully, since they're part of the same universe, and any reference to Star Wars in pop culture inevitably brings up the prequels. Add in Lucas foisting the prequels on fans whenever he can, and it's even harder.

And those were bad enough on their own, especially since the SEs have supplanted the unaltered trilogy as the "official" versions. Almost every other director and studio have made the original versions of their films available, even after a "director's cut" or other special edition has been released.

Also, some of the SE changes were made with the prequels in mind, which were only 2 years away. Lucas treated the SEs as a "test run" for some of the effects he wanted in the prequels. Not to mention that some of the changes were awful.

It's nothing to get too upset over if you don't mind the prequels or the changes. If you do, it's annoying, just like some of the earlier SE changes were, since they drag down the quality of the original films.

That's your major problem towards understanding. Again, think of a movie you hate like Sphere, and then imagine it intruding on a film you actually enjoy, to the point where you can't watch, discuss, or think about that film without the bad film coming up as well.

That was your choice though, since the Superman films are available separately.

There was plenty of bitching about the Bond collections. Some wanted chronological sets, some wanted just the "good" Bonds in certain collections, while some just wanted the Bond films available separately. But at least the Bond films aren't altered to accommodate a newer "vision" of how the Bond films should be.

Then you should be for what they want, since that's the only way the bitching will stop. BTW, being tired of the bitching is separate from understanding the bitching. It could be understandable how a prequel fan may be tired of the bitching, but it should be easy to understand why the bitching occurs.

cactusoly

once again people spend waaaaay too much time onsomething they hate. Move on and make more constructive use of your time,