The Dark Knight (Batman Begins 2) Discussion - Part 2
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Originally Posted by Brack
I don't understand, the IMAX movie is longer than the non-IMAX movie?
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No fair, why isn't it showing here on the 16th with free lenticulars
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Someone claiming to be from WB posted right above Rich saying that people in the UK who go to the advance shows get a free lenticular with the ticket. It looks like someone deleted that message.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense anymore. The post before mine originally stated it was showing in the UK 2 days prior to the official UK release and they were giving away free lenticulars.
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This movie is getting great reviews, and I am hoping this redefines the genre. Most comic book movies are so paint by numbers, as TDK has a real story, with great character development. As one reviewer said, "It is a grown up movie set in the world of Batman." I don't goto the movies much anymore, cause all they have is recycled crap like Indiana Jones IV, but I will be there this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Brent L
i do think BB had a distinguishable score that i liekd very much when Batman would enter. people say the music was forgetful, but i don't think so at all.
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we've been discussing this movie forever now it seems... hard to believe most of us will finally be seeing it in a little over 48 hours.
I am certain this movie is going to break my record number of times seeing a film in theaters. I'll of course be seeing it at Midnight opening night, and already have made plans to see it again Friday evening with a friend, and then again Sunday with my sister. Then I am sure someone else will ask me to go and I wont be able to resist.
Movie event of the year is so close.
I am certain this movie is going to break my record number of times seeing a film in theaters. I'll of course be seeing it at Midnight opening night, and already have made plans to see it again Friday evening with a friend, and then again Sunday with my sister. Then I am sure someone else will ask me to go and I wont be able to resist.
Movie event of the year is so close.
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I loved the score to Batman Begins. I'd be up for the collector's edition with special artwork for the score to The Dark Knight.
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Originally Posted by mcfly
I know.
This discussion has been going on for nearly 2 years.
Kind of sad its winding down.
This discussion has been going on for nearly 2 years.
Kind of sad its winding down.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
winding down? hell no! now we can jibe and folly over actually seeing it.
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Originally Posted by mcfly
I know.
This discussion has been going on for nearly 2 years.
Kind of sad its winding down.
This discussion has been going on for nearly 2 years.
Kind of sad its winding down.
It's fun reading the old threads like the announcement of Heath playing the Joker. Quite a few negatives about him being casted
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....6&page=1&pp=25
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Originally Posted by outcastja
It's fun reading the old threads like the announcement of Heath playing the Joker. Quite a few negatives about him being casted
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....6&page=1&pp=25
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....6&page=1&pp=25
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Originally Posted by Brent L
I'm not a fan of the Goldenthal Forever/B&R scores either, but at least they have some semblance of themes. The newer scores could just as easily fit into a Michael Bay action flick like the Rock, as much as they fit with Batman, but that is Hans Zimmer for you. He has some decent scores outside the modern action genre (Lion King, As Good As It Gets, Gladiator) and I think Pirates is a fun listen, but he didn't really compose the main themes for those since they were "off the shelf" music pieces refitted for Curse of the Black Pearl.
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Just saw it this evening. The comparison to Empire Strikes Back is apt, as this is a damn good film despite some uneven bits, most of which are the result of the need to fashion a summer blockbuster out of what amounts to an R-rated character drama. Although it's been billed as a comic book movie and a crime drama, it's not really either one. In fact, I'd be hard-pressed to toss TDK into any particular category, a quality it shares with the Prestige.
Keeping my comments brief, I was surprised by...
1) How unsettling the first 90 minutes of the film are. There's an almost palpable sense of dread in every scene (particularly if you know anything about the plot going in), and the word "fun" isn't part of this movie's vocabulary. Tense and exciting, but never fun. And parents, please don't bring your six-year-olds to this film unless you want them sleeping in your bed for the next week. This is not a gory horror film, but it's at least as disturbing as the Prestige (which is, I hope, no one's idea of a kiddie movie).
2) The fact that Ledger is only in about 20 or 30 minutes of the movie. Nolan's comparison of the Joker to the shark in Jaws is apt, as the heroes spend long periods of time planning, piecing together clues, and hunting down criminals just before J pops out from under his rock to wreak havoc and ruin everyone's plans. Nolan's Joker is also markedly different from the comics version in that he is explicitly a terrorist, even going so far as to film the murder of one of his victims (although it's not shown onscreen). The best way I can describe the Joker is to say that everyone who left the screening had a good idea of what he smelled like. Dull yellow teeth, greasy hair, smeared face paint and eye black--probably smelled as though he just finished a shift at the abattoir.
3) Batman storming the nightclub. Think Cruise in Collateral to a factor of ten--just a fantastic scene.
4) How utterly different this film is than Batman Begins. Although they take place within the same narrative space, TDK doesn't rehash any aspect of its predecessor, as only one character has any kind of developmental arc to speak of. In Nolan's films, the Batman we saw at the end of Begins is *the* Batman--he's not going to bend or change despite Wayne's occasional doubts.
I could've done without a couple of odd plot twists or gadgets, but all in all, I was not disappointed. It's good to see a blockbuster that lives up to its hype and pedigree.
Keeping my comments brief, I was surprised by...
1) How unsettling the first 90 minutes of the film are. There's an almost palpable sense of dread in every scene (particularly if you know anything about the plot going in), and the word "fun" isn't part of this movie's vocabulary. Tense and exciting, but never fun. And parents, please don't bring your six-year-olds to this film unless you want them sleeping in your bed for the next week. This is not a gory horror film, but it's at least as disturbing as the Prestige (which is, I hope, no one's idea of a kiddie movie).
2) The fact that Ledger is only in about 20 or 30 minutes of the movie. Nolan's comparison of the Joker to the shark in Jaws is apt, as the heroes spend long periods of time planning, piecing together clues, and hunting down criminals just before J pops out from under his rock to wreak havoc and ruin everyone's plans. Nolan's Joker is also markedly different from the comics version in that he is explicitly a terrorist, even going so far as to film the murder of one of his victims (although it's not shown onscreen). The best way I can describe the Joker is to say that everyone who left the screening had a good idea of what he smelled like. Dull yellow teeth, greasy hair, smeared face paint and eye black--probably smelled as though he just finished a shift at the abattoir.
3) Batman storming the nightclub. Think Cruise in Collateral to a factor of ten--just a fantastic scene.
4) How utterly different this film is than Batman Begins. Although they take place within the same narrative space, TDK doesn't rehash any aspect of its predecessor, as only one character has any kind of developmental arc to speak of. In Nolan's films, the Batman we saw at the end of Begins is *the* Batman--he's not going to bend or change despite Wayne's occasional doubts.
I could've done without a couple of odd plot twists or gadgets, but all in all, I was not disappointed. It's good to see a blockbuster that lives up to its hype and pedigree.
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I thought the dubbing of the Jokester's final line,
was an exceedingly obvious rewrite to accommodate for the tragic death of Heath Ledger and explain why he won't be in the third installment.
Spoiler:
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I just found out that the 'friend' who was in charge of buying tickets for the IMAX showing on Friday that I THOUGHT I was going to, waited too long (he thought it wouldn't sell out - douche) and they are now sold out...so I'm kind of pissed. I'm going at midnight to a 'regular' showing but now I guess IMAX is out until at least Sunday... FUCK.
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Originally Posted by grrr
Nolan's Joker is also markedly different from the comics version in that he is explicitly a terrorist, even going so far as to film the murder of one of his victims (although it's not shown onscreen). The best way I can describe the Joker is to say that everyone who left the screening had a good idea of what he smelled like. Dull yellow teeth, greasy hair, smeared face paint and eye black--probably smelled as though he just finished a shift at the abattoir.
You just described the comic book joker to a T (smeared face paint aside).
-Doc