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Old 12-10-08, 08:00 AM
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I noticed that some scenes where full screen but most of the movie had bars bottom an top. Anyone else notice this?
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You must have a defective copy.
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Old 12-10-08, 09:18 AM
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I noticed that some scenes where full screen but most of the movie had bars bottom an top. Anyone else notice this?
Did you get the Blu-ray version?
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Old 12-10-08, 09:26 AM
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I noticed that some scenes where full screen but most of the movie had bars bottom an top. Anyone else notice this?
Yes. And I've read in several professional reviews of the BD that those or the IMAX scenes.
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After seeing Dark Knight in IMAX, it's hard to watch it even on Blu-ray. It's that good.
Totally agree with you on that...
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I have found that Dark KNight and The Incredible Hulk held up (and even got better) upon a 2nd viewing but Iron Man didnt hold up nearly as well. I still really like it but dont think it'll have the rewatchability of The Dark Knight and Hulk 2
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Old 12-10-08, 11:02 AM
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Yeah. It's a great film but...for repeated veiwing it's value kinda stiffens or neutralizes itself..TDK and Hulk just keep you going...
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Old 12-10-08, 03:25 PM
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They filmed it in two different aspects! I- MAX AND OTHER
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Am I only one that was thinking that if Dent really had half his face missing in real life (you can see muscle/tendon fibers in there) that he'd get a bad infection and die?
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Am I only one that was thinking that if Dent really had half his face missing in real life (you can see muscle/tendon fibers in there) that he'd get a bad infection and die?
You weren't, but since he dies like a day or two after his injury it's negligible.
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Old 12-11-08, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro37
You weren't, but since he dies like a day or two after his injury it's negligible.
That teaches me to post before I finish the movie

BTW if you mean that hospital explosion, I don't think he's dead. I think Batman 3 is going to have him as the main villain (or one of them).

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Old 12-11-08, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorDeb
That teaches me to post before I finish the movie

BTW if you mean that hospital explosion, I don't think he's dead. I think Batman 3 is going to have him as the main villain (or one of them).
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Old 12-11-08, 09:42 PM
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Wow.

How do you watch part of the movie, then come into a thread to talk about it without finishing it first?
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Don't mind them GD, they simply mean he's dead on the inside after his injury.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Wow.

How do you watch part of the movie, then come into a thread to talk about it without finishing it first?
Because the comment had nothing to do with how the movie ends.
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Old 12-11-08, 10:58 PM
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Have you finished the movie, or are you posting as you watch? I can't imagine walking away from the movie after the hospital scene to post; the movie just had me transfixed at that point.
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I can't sit still for two hours (let alone 2.5 hours) so most movies I watch at home I watch in 2-3 pieces.
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Old 12-12-08, 12:19 AM
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Hm... I did enjoy The Dark Knight the first time I saw it (in the Cinerama dome in Hollywood).. just watched it again a couple nights ago on DVD..

I gotta say, I think the emperor isn't wearing much. No doubt Heath Ledger's Joker is magnificent, but he's in the wrong movie. I actually was a bit bored through most of it and found the plot kind of convoluted. It actually feels more like a James Bond movie than a superhero one.

Christian Bale, while normally a good actor, is frankly pretty lame as Bruce Wayne. His "Batman" gruff voice is kind of unintentionally humorous.

The movie also falls victim to Spielberg's recent problem of too many endings... why on earth did it need to cram the Two-Face story into it's resolution? It's like they chopped part 3 to it's essentials and just shoved it in there. Too much.

I don't know. It's not a horrible movie by any stretch, and it has moments of brilliance (basically the Joker scenes), but as a whole I think it pales next to Spider Man 2 or even Batman Returns if we're discussing the same genre.
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Hm... I did enjoy The Dark Knight the first time I saw it (in the Cinerama dome in Hollywood).. just watched it again a couple nights ago on DVD..
If you think the Dark Knight isn't as good as the fucking Batman movie where they ride in giant rubber ducks then I don't even know where to start. Spider-Man 2 is the real Emperor's New Clothes of the genre; remember how much EVERYONE (not just the nerds) loved it when it came out? Have you tried to watch it again? Apart from Alfred Molina, no one in that film can act. The dialogue's shit as well. It went from being one of my favorite movies to one I can barely stomach anymore.

And they didn't cram Two-Face in because he was never meant to be a villain. He is the Joker's living, breathing trophy and he has nothing to live for, unlike in the comic books where he has a devoted wife. In this universe his burns would have killed him in weeks, if not sooner, and if not there would be no reason for him to become a mob boss like he did in the comics.
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Does Deb never deliver? My God. And I thought the Craigslist kidnapping was classic.
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Dent dies

I really enjoyed the movie (and I really enjoyed #1 also). I did find the Batman voice comical. I still don't understand the whole thing (i.e. Gordon's involvement with the mob), so I'll do some reading around (imdb boards can be childish at times but I've found it a great source of information for movie questions).
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Gordon's involvement with the mob is he arrests them.
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Gordon's involvement with the mob is he arrests them.
The tension between Dent and Gordon stemmed from the fact that other officers in Gordon's task force were investigated for mob ties.
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The tension between Dent and Gordon stemmed from the fact that other officers in Gordon's task force were investigated for mob ties.
Indeed, but Gordon had no involvement with the mob himself.
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Old 12-12-08, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lamphorn
The movie also falls victim to Spielberg's recent problem of too many endings... why on earth did it need to cram the Two-Face story into it's resolution? It's like they chopped part 3 to it's essentials and just shoved it in there. Too much.

I don't know. It's not a horrible movie by any stretch, and it has moments of brilliance (basically the Joker scenes), but as a whole I think it pales next to Spider Man 2 or even Batman Returns if we're discussing the same genre.
A friend of mine complains bitterly that he feels they squandered the Harvey Dent/Two-Face storyline by bringing it into this film; he would have preferred it be the main plot of the next film. I countered that the story is really about how Gothamites live in a world run by extremists. Batman and the Joker are polar opposites; everyone else is caught somewhere between those two. Gordon is closer to Batman; the mob is closer to the Joker; etc. The subplot with the bombs aboard the boats depicts this conflict, but Harvey Dent personifies it. As a storytelling device, it's pretty hard to find a better way of portraying that theme than having one person swing from one extreme to the other, physically altered along the way. Was it artistic or just lazy? That's for you to decide.

As far as Spider-Man 2 goes, I know everyone went crazy for it at the time and some people have outgrown it. I was personally disappointed while watching it in the theater the first time. I mean, really, the whole driving plot is that Peter Parker's feelings for Mary Jane are the source of his conflict. Fine. But you can't have the guy have anxiety attacks over letting her know he's Spider-Man when he takes off his freaking mask on top of a building in broad daylight! Sorry, but if your secret identity is the source of your issues, then you can't be so cavalier about when you guard it. All I wanted to do was slap him.
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