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Old 05-01-14, 09:45 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/0501...-says-gleeson/

Speaking to RTÉ TEN, Gleeson said of the script read-through session captured in the photo. "It was totally surreal to me; surreal is the word. And amazing."

He continued: "Getting to see those people from your childhoods... Getting to see them still be amazing, still just nail it in the room was ridiculously exciting and something [his casting] I did not expect to happen. So it was a weird, brilliant day."
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by taffer
It doesn't sound like a Death Star to me, but rather an
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actual living sentient planet that is a weapon. That sounds like Mogo to me.
It still sounds like a stale idea, but I guess it would depend on how it was executed.
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Moon-sized weapon of destruction/Actual planet of destruction... tomeyto/tomahto.

Originally Posted by taffer
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It's possible that after his experiences, Luke thinks reestablishing the Jedi is just too great of a risk. He saw what falling to the dark side did to his father, and he himself was nearly tempted as well. So maybe he thinks it's best to just let the Jedi lineage end with his death.
Then Yoda's final wish would have gone unfulfilled. I'm sure his Force ghost would have haunted Luke until he got his ass in gear and started training some padawans.

Plus, I feel Luke had made peace with who his father was and knew better than to succumb to a similar path. I'll be sorely disappointed if he hasn't passed on Yoda's teachings after three decades. I can see him doing it in seclusion to shield the order from potential enemies, but letting the Jedi fall into extinction doesn't seems like the choice Luke Skywalker (at least where we left him in ROTJ) would make.

Originally Posted by taffer
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Darth Maul... Darth Tyrannus... Darth Sidious... Darth (In)vader...

How are those any better?
Uh... they aren't?

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Originally Posted by joe_b
Then Yoda's final wish would have gone unfulfilled. I'm sure his Force ghost would have haunted Luke until he got his ass in gear and started training some padawans.

Plus, I feel Luke had made peace with who his father was and knew better than to succumb to a similar path. I'll be sorely disappointed if he hasn't passed on Yoda's teachings after three decades. I can see him doing it in seclusion to shield the order from potential enemies, but letting the Jedi fall into extinction doesn't seems like the choice Luke Skywalker (at least where we left him in ROTJ) would make.
I don't recall Yoda telling Luke to rebuild the Jedi.

Maybe the real reason Luke never rebuilt the Jedi is because Yoda never taught him how to do a midiclorian count on potential candidates.
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Originally Posted by Throwing Copper
So is this going to be one of those deals where everyone pays to see a movie just to see the first trailer for the new Star Wars and then walks out?

Some of those spoilers are pretty cool
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
It will be interesting to see in the new movie if Luke has actually trained Leia in the Force (as he semi-promised in Return of the Jedi) or if she never developed her skills. I agree it might be rather goofy to see Carrie Fisher fighting with a lightsaber, but using the Jedi Mind Trick on Han might provide for a funny moment.
(re: bolded part) Slightly OT but there's a series of comics that do a "what-if" take on the original trilogy. In one of them, Han & Chewie end up taking Luke to Dagobah. Yoda starts his "crazy old hermit" act like usual, Luke falls for it (like usual), but Han is like "dude is playing you, he's Yoda!".

I don't think mind tricks would work on Han

But I do want to see her trained. The fact that both Carrie and Mark have gotten into shape gives me hope we'll see her doing at least some defensive stuff at some point.
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Originally Posted by taffer
I don't recall Yoda telling Luke to rebuild the Jedi.
"Pass on... what you have learned." He clearly didn't want the Jedi to go extinct.


The Mirror interviewed Daisy Ridley's father about her joining Star Wars. I love his comment about Harrison Ford:

“He’s a very sweet guy, though he looks terribly grumpy. She said he looks much better than he does in films and he’s a much nicer guy.”
That he does, sir... that he does.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...ridley-3481110
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Well, I only did the spoiler tags to follow the lead of others... but chances are we're only speculating on a random fan's made-up theories.
Not your fault the mobile app does this, no worries. Just a weird thing.
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How can Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) get back in the role as he needs a cane to help him walk?
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Originally Posted by antspawn
How can Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) get back in the role as he needs a cane to help him walk?
Wookies can't use canes?
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How can Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) get back in the role as he needs a cane to help him walk?
Much of the wookie work in Revenge of the Sith was CGI. Mayhew could be used for character shots, but then CGI for action shots (much like R2 and C-3PO in the prequels).
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I think we can skip the spoiler tags for the EU stuff, most of it anyway.

Think this is it?
Ridley - Solo daughter.
Boyega - Lando son.
Driver - Sith.
Sydow - Sith.
Isaac - stormtrooper.
Gleeson - bounty hunter.
Serkis - Sith alien.

BTW, in the EU, Luke didn't train Jedi until 7 years after ROTJ. So not like he would start right ayway either way.

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BTW, in the EU, Luke didn't train Jedi until 7 years after ROTJ. So not like he would start right ayway either way.
True, but Episode VII is 30 years after ROTJ.
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Well we know from the OT that it doesn't take much training to be a Jedi. Just run around in a forest a bit and defeat your father. He could start up an academy any time and start churning out new Jedi in a matter of weeks.
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This is going to be one of those films I can't stay away from spoilers on. By the time this thing is actually released, I'll probably have read every rumor I can find.

The only recent movies I've been this way about were JJ's first STAR TREK movie and the last INDIANA JONES film. Usually, I don't care enough to bother or can stay away so the story isn't ruined for me.
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Originally Posted by antspawn
How can Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) get back in the role as he needs a cane to help him walk?
He had knee surgery and has done a lot of physical therapy recently. Guys come along way in the last year. They'll probably use a double for a lot of shots as well.



I saw Mayhew at a convention last year when he was still confined to a wheelchair. There was no one at his table, but I didn't go over because I already had his autograph from Celebration II. You kind of feel like you're wasting their time if you approach them and don't buy something at those things. He looked like he was miserable (I guess being in ill health and doing the convention circuit will do that), so I'm glad to see him back at work with the old crew.
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Well we know from the OT that it doesn't take much training to be a Jedi. Just run around in a forest a bit and defeat your father. He could start up an academy any time and start churning out new Jedi in a matter of weeks.
If we learned anything from Yoda, it's that half the job of a Jedi Master is telling others "you're not ready," and "you're too young/old." Yoda was just really lazy.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

How about Leia being the mother of both Han and Lando's kids? The reason Lando won't be in the film is that Han got pissed and killed him.
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How about Leia being the mother of both Han and Lando's kids? The reason Lando won't be in the film is that Han got pissed and killed him.
It's possible Billy Dee's going to be in the movie in a supporting role that isn't shooting until later. Remember, they're still looking to cast another female character as well - perhaps one with a lot of scenes with Billy Dee - so until that role gets cast, there's really no reason to have him in England.

Of course, just a theory. I can't imagine any reason JJ WOULDN'T have Lando in the movie unless (a) Billy Dee is just in too poor shape to travel (and he's not - he's doing a con here in Pittsburgh in August, and we all saw him on DWTS) or (b) he plays an important part in one of the sequels and there's a reason he's not in this one.
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Yeah, after I posted that I remembered that Han would never kill Lando unless Lando shot at him first and missed.
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Billy Dee said he'll be there if they ask him

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Love the whole idea of Luke disappearing for 30 years and the Jedi being thought extinct. I'm not exactly clamoring for more boring Jedi characters in huge lightsaber battles. I'm also not really enthused about having offspring of the big-three having any major role either so that I'm a little apprehensive about.

What we really need is to get back to more ordinary-Joe type characters without any baggage. People you can relate to who are are forced into some kind of unexpected journey and end up doing great things. That's a classic story that people like to see and pretty much always works.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

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I found this on another forum posted by someone who claims to have seen the script. If it is true, then it definitely shits all over the post-ROTJ EU.

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>Leia is made leader of the Republic after her predecessor's death
>Han is a retired veteran of the Republic fleet
>Luke hasn't been seen in nearly 30 years
>the lead character is Han and Leia's daughter
>the other lead is the child of Lando, and either a male or female depending on who is cast
>the other lead is a Stormtrooper, also either a male or female depending on who is cast
>dialogue for these two characters is very rough in the second draft
>Luke has no known offspring
>The Empire still exists in the form of a number of loyal systems and are in a state of cold war with the Republic
>The Empire is simply referred to as the "Empire," and the Republic is referred to formally only once, as the "Galactic Republic;" no "New" anywhere
>There are no Jedi whatsoever, and people still speak as if they are extinct, with Luke being "the last of his kind"
>The main antagonists are an older student of the Emperor, and his apprentice
>The apprentice takes control of the power dynamic between the two pretty quickly...
>The Republic are excavating ruins on a neutral world for a weapon; the world factors into tense negotiations the Empire have had with the Republic, and is referred to as the "Sith Homeworld"
>Loredump: In the script, the Sith are a couple thousand years old, founded by an ancestor of Palpatine called Ruin; the apprentice in this film also goes by that name
>the ruins within the Sith Homeworld are a control station; the planet itself is the weapon
>Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way; he has changed
Do you have a source on that? I googled, and there's a thread on gamefaqs that claims it was posted on 4chan a month ago.

Just being from 4chan doesn't necessarily mean it's bullshit; I seem to recall they've had some accurate spoilers come from there in the past. It does sort of fit in with the cast list that was released, though.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
If we learned anything from Yoda, it's that half the job of a Jedi Master is telling others "you're not ready," and "you're too young/old." Yoda was just really lazy.
Maybe Yoda is Tyler Durden.

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Do you have a source on that? I googled, and there's a thread on gamefaqs that claims it was posted on 4chan a month ago.

Just being from 4chan doesn't necessarily mean it's bullshit; I seem to recall they've had some accurate spoilers come from there in the past. It does sort of fit in with the cast list that was released, though.
The Star Wars forum on GameFAQs is where I found it.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/223-star-wars/69136452
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Love the whole idea of Luke disappearing for 30 years and the Jedi being thought extinct. I'm not exactly clamoring for more boring Jedi characters in huge lightsaber battles. I'm also not really enthused about having offspring of the big-three having any major role either so that I'm a little apprehensive about.

What we really need is to get back to more ordinary-Joe type characters without any baggage. People you can relate to who are are forced into some kind of unexpected journey and end up doing great things. That's a classic story that people like to see and pretty much always works.
Exactly. The movies need to be fun again, where we are rooting for the good guys for 2 hours. That was my whole point as to why Han Solo was so key to Star Wars and Empire, because Luke gave the fans the 'Jedi' serious stuff, while Han gave the fans the 'normal guy' funny stuff. Return of the Jedi and The Prequels were too heavy with 'Jedi stuff' as you need a good balance of both for the movies to really be great.


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