Go Back  (BETA) DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher

Community
Search
Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-25-14, 02:45 PM
  #3626  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,681
Received 646 Likes on 446 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Mike86
Yeah it seems like Boba Fett got more popular later than what he ever was in the films.
He was famously introduced in an animated short in the Star Wars Holiday Special, so there was hype for his character before ESB even came out. Then there was the 3 year gap between ESB and ROTJ, so there was time for the mythos of the character to build before he was knocked off.
Old 05-25-14, 03:49 PM
  #3627  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Mike86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 24,712
Received 1,130 Likes on 890 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Jay G.
He was famously introduced in an animated short in the Star Wars Holiday Special, so there was hype for his character before ESB even came out. Then there was the 3 year gap between ESB and ROTJ, so there was time for the mythos of the character to build before he was knocked off.
I knew that he was introduced in the Holiday Special and the action figure that could be sent away for and all that. It seems like Boba Fett was a character that was supposed to have a more substantial role but in terms of the films never really met that potential.

In terms of the actual films though he really didn't do a whole lot in them. I mean basically all he did was follow the Millenium Falcon to Bespin and took Han to Jabba after he was frozen in the carbonite. Aside from that he was part of the battle at Jabba's palace and basically went out like a joke. The film could be interesting if it filled in some of the gaps of what he was doing between Episode II and Episode V though I think. Even if the film is placed after Return of the Jedi it could be interesting, but I think it would be better if we got some more backstory or saw him do more things that made the audience care more about him.
Old 05-25-14, 09:26 PM
  #3628  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Sean O'Hara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vichy America
Posts: 13,533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Schloob1
Perhaps some of you guys are just too young or old then to have played with the action figures growing up in the 70's/80's?
No, I had a Boba Fett action figure, too, though not the mail-order one. But I also had Bossk, IG-88, Bib Fortuna, Max Rebo and his band, etc., etc. Fett didn't really stand out and like I said, I didn't even know his name until much later. He was just that guy with the rocket pack who falls into the Sarlac Pit to me.
Old 05-25-14, 10:03 PM
  #3629  
Premium Member
 
The Cow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Grazing in a field somewhere...
Posts: 23,548
Received 678 Likes on 458 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Schloob1
Perhaps some of you guys are just too young or old then to have played with the action figures growing up in the 70's/80's? He was one of my faves right off the bat, and I still remember getting him by the mail-in offer. That was even bigger than Ralphie waiting for the special prize from the Annie show he listened to in a Christmas Story

http://theswca.com/images-speci/mailaways/fett.html
I still have a few of him from the mail-in offer. It's not like he was hard to get or anything. Plus, it was very disappointing when they decided not to ship ones with a rocket that fired as originally advertised. I never thought much of him either.
Old 05-25-14, 10:32 PM
  #3630  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
aintnosin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 2,897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

I was a teenager when TESB first hit theaters and I remember knowing who Boba Fett was before the movie was out. Whether or not he was a big deal as a character, Lucas clearly thought he was (but he also felt the same way about Jar-Jar Bink 20 years later, so what does he know?).

After Return of the Jedi, I remember thinking that they had taken a character with the potential to be cool and done nothing with him.
Old 05-25-14, 10:37 PM
  #3631  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
hasslein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sunny CA
Posts: 2,600
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

He out "cooled" the stormtroopers & Vader's armor... I thought Empire was just a teaser for the huge role he was to play in Revenge of the Jedi... my heart sank when the sarlaac burped....
Old 05-25-14, 10:39 PM
  #3632  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
aintnosin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 2,897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by hasslein
my heart sank when the sarlaac burped....
That's poetry man. Pure poetry.
Old 05-26-14, 02:47 AM
  #3633  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Josh-da-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Bible Belt
Posts: 43,820
Received 2,694 Likes on 1,858 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Mike86
Yeah it seems like Boba Fett got more popular later than what he ever was in the films. I mean sure he looked badass and all but we really never saw him do a ton in the films and he went out kind of lame. I do think the character has potential for some interesting stories though if a film (or films) is made.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I was a big Boba Fett fan when I was a kid (after ESB and before ROTJ came out). He was the only character I had a 12" action figure of, and the only one I wanted. (Fucking Wookie scalps! He was wearing Wookie scalps!)

The appeal to me at the time was that he was just badass bounty hunter who came from out of nowhere and completely fucked everything up for everyone. But he wasn't an agent of the Empire, just a mercenary out to make a fast buck. And then he carts off Han Solo at the end, and you don't know where he's taking him.

And then ROTJ came out and I was really bummed out... Boba Fett goes out like a complete bitch. His cool James Bond gadgets all malfunctioned, and a blind man knocked him into the Sarlaac Pit. Never mind that there was really no point in even having Boba Fett hanging around Jabba's palace waiting to get killed. He should have been off doing another job or something.

I was also disappointed that Jabba the Hutt was so easy to find. He's living in a big castle of Tatooine? He was there the whole time, chillin' with Boba Fett and a bunch of fake-looking puppets? Really? That was it? All of the anticipation, and they all just go back to Tattooine? There's no big search for Han, no secret hide-out for Jabba?
Old 05-26-14, 04:22 AM
  #3634  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I was also disappointed that Jabba the Hutt was so easy to find. He's living in a big castle of Tatooine? He was there the whole time, chillin' with Boba Fett and a bunch of fake-looking puppets? Really? That was it? All of the anticipation, and they all just go back to Tattooine? There's no big search for Han, no secret hide-out for Jabba?
Jabba is essentially a Mafia boss like Al Capone. They are basically untouchable, so they don't need to hide.
Old 05-26-14, 07:26 AM
  #3635  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Michael Corvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 62,509
Received 909 Likes on 644 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by taffer
Jabba is essentially a Mafia boss like Al Capone. They are basically untouchable, so they don't need to hide.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty straight forward.
Old 05-26-14, 10:06 AM
  #3636  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Shannon Nutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 18,354
Received 324 Likes on 242 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Mike86
Yeah it seems like Boba Fett got more popular later than what he ever was in the films. I mean sure he looked badass and all but we really never saw him do a ton in the films and he went out kind of lame. I do think the character has potential for some interesting stories though if a film (or films) is made.
No, he was super-popular when ESB came out. As I said earlier...there were a ton of fan boys (like me) who speculated he was the 'another' that Yoda spoke of. You have to remember that at this point in our lives, we had only seen two really good films and thought George Lucas was a genius.
Old 05-26-14, 11:24 AM
  #3637  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Sean O'Hara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vichy America
Posts: 13,533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by taffer
Jabba is essentially a Mafia boss like Al Capone. They are basically untouchable, so they don't need to hide.
Then why do Lando and Chewie go off at the end of Empire to find Jabba like it's some difficult mission?
Old 05-26-14, 11:26 AM
  #3638  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
Then why do Lando and Chewie go off at the end of Empire to find Jabba like it's some difficult mission?
Because at that point it was being written by someone other than Lucas ? I honestly just think it was to cover up in case they couldn't get Ford back, which is of course why they froze Han in the first place.
Old 05-26-14, 02:00 PM
  #3639  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
hasslein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sunny CA
Posts: 2,600
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by aintnosin
That's poetry man. Pure poetry.
Old 05-26-14, 02:03 PM
  #3640  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,798
Received 44 Likes on 36 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
No, I had a Boba Fett action figure, too, though not the mail-order one. But I also had Bossk, IG-88, Bib Fortuna, Max Rebo and his band, etc., etc. Fett didn't really stand out and like I said, I didn't even know his name until much later. He was just that guy with the rocket pack who falls into the Sarlac Pit to me.
I thought Boba Fett was boring as a kid. The only reason I ever played with the figure was because he was like the only Star Wars character who could fly. Otherwise, he saw way less action than random characters like Ree Yees and Squid Head did.
Old 05-26-14, 03:16 PM
  #3641  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 23,493
Received 197 Likes on 152 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
Because at that point it was being written by someone other than Lucas ? I honestly just think it was to cover up in case they couldn't get Ford back, which is of course why they froze Han in the first place.
Just what was their plan if Ford didn't come back? Shrug it off as an "oh well, sucks to be him now I guess,"?
Old 05-26-14, 03:22 PM
  #3642  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
JTH182's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 5,785
Received 115 Likes on 77 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I can't speak for anyone else, but I was a big Boba Fett fan when I was a kid (after ESB and before ROTJ came out). He was the only character I had a 12" action figure of, and the only one I wanted. (Fucking Wookie scalps! He was wearing Wookie scalps!)

The appeal to me at the time was that he was just badass bounty hunter who came from out of nowhere and completely fucked everything up for everyone. But he wasn't an agent of the Empire, just a mercenary out to make a fast buck. And then he carts off Han Solo at the end, and you don't know where he's taking him.

And then ROTJ came out and I was really bummed out... Boba Fett goes out like a complete bitch. His cool James Bond gadgets all malfunctioned, and a blind man knocked him into the Sarlaac Pit. Never mind that there was really no point in even having Boba Fett hanging around Jabba's palace waiting to get killed. He should have been off doing another job or something.

I was also disappointed that Jabba the Hutt was so easy to find. He's living in a big castle of Tatooine? He was there the whole time, chillin' with Boba Fett and a bunch of fake-looking puppets? Really? That was it? All of the anticipation, and they all just go back to Tattooine? There's no big search for Han, no secret hide-out for Jabba?


Pussy, man. It's all about that sweet intergalactic pussy.
Old 05-26-14, 03:30 PM
  #3643  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Even fictional characters are getting laid around these forums !

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Just what was their plan if Ford didn't come back? Shrug it off as an "oh well, sucks to be him now I guess,"?
That's a good question, I don't know. I think it's one of those things they were probably planning on figuring out when they got there if need be. After they rescue him in ROTJ, he doesn't do much and his character is fairly passive compared to the brash one in the last two films.
Old 05-26-14, 04:42 PM
  #3644  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Shannon Nutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 18,354
Received 324 Likes on 242 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

One of the reasons ESB is so strong and ROTJ is so weak is because of Ford. He's basically the lead in ESB (yes, even moreso than Hamill), but - as noted above - he's given nothing to do in ROTJ.

It's no surprise that one of the rumors surrounding the new movie is that Ford gets the most screentime of the returning cast. JJ and Lawrence Kasdan no doubt realize he was one of main reasons the first two films are so darn good.
Old 05-26-14, 06:12 PM
  #3645  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
hasslein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sunny CA
Posts: 2,600
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

One of the few choices I was happy about was Max Von Sydow. He has always been one of my favorite actors. I hope with Billy Dee the rumors that he is dead at the beginning are false, and they are holding off on revealing his appearance as a surprise. If one has a resource they should use it. He was great on Modern Family. Maybe JJ got his franchises confused and he is doing "The Search for Lando"
Old 05-27-14, 07:02 AM
  #3646  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 7,436
Received 90 Likes on 70 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
One of the reasons ESB is so strong and ROTJ is so weak is because of Ford. He's basically the lead in ESB (yes, even moreso than Hamill), but - as noted above - he's given nothing to do in ROTJ.

It's no surprise that one of the rumors surrounding the new movie is that Ford gets the most screentime of the returning cast. JJ and Lawrence Kasdan no doubt realize he was one of main reasons the first two films are so darn good.
Han Solo gives a SW movie a good balance between Jedi Characters and Human Characters, and that is what the PT was solely lacking. If you focus too much on Jedi stuff, the movies tend to take themselves too seriously, whereas a character like Han gives you that human view on the galaxy, and adds that touch of humor and sarcasm.

Abrams has to understand that alot of OT fans like me gravitated to the good guys and weren't all caught up in the Darth Vader/Jedi/Sith stuff for 2 hours. If Abrams can have that mix of jedi and human stuff in these movies with Han and other characters for the ST, I think they can get back to the spirit of the OT.
Old 06-02-14, 04:12 AM
  #3647  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
joe_b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,390
Received 91 Likes on 58 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

TMZ has posted a gallery from the Abu Dhabi shoot. Mostly just costumed extras, but this thing was definitely a highlight:

Spoiler:


It looks like a Gamorrean Guard got drunk and made sweet love to a Dewback.
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2014/06/02...1/sw-7-15-jpg/

Last edited by joe_b; 06-02-14 at 06:15 AM.
Old 06-02-14, 07:56 AM
  #3648  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Shannon Nutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 18,354
Received 324 Likes on 242 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by joe_b
TMZ has posted a gallery from the Abu Dhabi shoot. Mostly just costumed extras, but this thing was definitely a highlight:

Spoiler:


It looks like a Gamorrean Guard got drunk and made sweet love to a Dewback.
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2014/06/02...1/sw-7-15-jpg/
Again, it's pretty awesome to see practical over CGI. That gives me a lot of hope for this film.

Also, it's a pretty good bet that's Tatooine, as picture #43 has a moisture vaporator in the background.
Old 06-02-14, 08:17 AM
  #3649  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 10,860
Received 216 Likes on 155 Posts
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

That overhead gate/entrance is an exact replica of an old Ralph McQuarrie painting! (minus the hanging lights) It's in the 'Illustrated SW Universe' book.

It could be anywhere of course, but in the book it's an entryway to
Spoiler:
Jabba's Palace.
Old 06-02-14, 08:34 AM
  #3650  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Kicker_of_Elves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: High above the Mucky Muck
Posts: 5,054
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Artman
That overhead gate/entrance is an exact replica of an old Ralph McQuarrie painting! (minus the hanging lights) It's in the 'Illustrated SW Universe' book.

It could be anywhere of course, but in the book it's an entryway to
Spoiler:
Jabba's Palace.
Good eye man. It looks like they might be borrowing parts of Ralph's work or unused ideas and combining them with something new.




Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.