Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
Interesting question... since remakes are hot in Hollywood, would Disney have the courage to "remake" Episodes I-III correctly and erase George's attempts? Just curious.
#7954
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As great as it would be to have a better version of the Prequel Trilogy I really can't see Disney remaking the films.
#7955
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I think remaking the prequels would look bad on both the franchise, Disney, and Lucas as well.
#7956
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I'm pretty sure remakes are off the table, but I can't help wonder if they'd ever give them another pass through the editing bay. There's been so many fan edits that really help to smooth them out, plus AOTC could use some of the footage of Padme's family restored.
I'd be down for rebuying those on Bluray.
I'd be down for rebuying those on Bluray.
#7957
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I'm pretty sure remakes are off the table, but I can't help wonder if they'd ever give them another pass through the editing bay. There's been so many fan edits that really help to smooth them out, plus AOTC could use some of the footage of Padme's family restored.
I'd be down for rebuying those on Bluray.
I'd be down for rebuying those on Bluray.
#7958
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
We have a name for that Star Destroyer seen in space from the 2nd trailer:
Apologies if this has been posted already.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
Just let it go. I'm not a SW fan but ya'll motherfuckers need to move on. We're done w/ the Lucas prequels. We're moving forward w/ a new emphasis towards what made SW great to the masses. Essentially the OT. We don't need to be reminded of failure. The OT is the source text that Disney is using for their films. They're the DNA for it. We're moving on.
#7960
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Well the Prequel Trilogy will still be acknowledged to some extent as much as some of us don't want that. It'll have to be for the Anthology films like Rogue One to work. Hopefully the writing is solid enough that any issues the Prequels had can be overlooked enough where they're still enjoyable. I'm pretty confident that can happen as both The Clone Wars and Rebels have been pretty solid shows that built off the Prequel Trilogy.
#7961
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The Prequel Trilogy is largely embraced with average audiences, it's a big hit with kids and therefore families, there's absolutely no reason to remake the films except to satisfy a vocal minority on the internet.
#7962
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Well it is fairly telling that even Disney seems to be downplaying the Prequel Trilogy at this point. Obviously they won't take the films out of canon and they won't be remade but I think they realize that there's not as much love for those films as there is for the Original Trilogy.
#7963
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Well it is fairly telling that even Disney seems to be downplaying the Prequel Trilogy at this point. Obviously they won't take the films out of canon and they won't be remade but I think they realize that there's not as much love for those films as there is for the Original Trilogy.
It's one thing for a Friday the 13th movie to pretend the events of the latest shitty sequel didn't happen and carry the low-budget franchise in a new direction. Double Oh 7 is proposing Disney fund 3 new tentpole flicks while writing off 50% of the Star Wars film universe that are still profitable, to please the old heads on the internet, it doesn't make sense.
#7964
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From an artistic standpoint, sure. But the franchise found an entire generation of fans through the prequels, and they brought in a lot of home video sales. Critically, the films are bad, and most of the older fans hate them, so it's smart to distance the new films from them, but it'd also be unwise to remake the films that have all ready, and will continue to make a lot of money for the Star Wars franchise.
#7965
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Yeah, let's just be happy that the franchise is out of George's hands, and we're getting a barrage of promising new Star Wars films.
#7966
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Just let it go. I'm not a SW fan but ya'll motherfuckers need to move on. We're done w/ the Lucas prequels. We're moving forward w/ a new emphasis towards what made SW great to the masses. Essentially the OT. We don't need to be reminded of failure. The OT is the source text that Disney is using for their films. They're the DNA for it. We're moving on.
this
#7967
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Rogue One will satiate any dwindling desire of mine to re-explore the pre-OT era. that, and maybe a Knights of the Old Republic trilogy.
#7968
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
From an artistic standpoint, sure. But the franchise found an entire generation of fans through the prequels, and they brought in a lot of home video sales. Critically, the films are bad, and most of the older fans hate them, so it's smart to distance the new films from them, but it'd also be unwise to remake the films that have all ready, and will continue to make a lot of money for the Star Wars franchise.
It's one thing for a Friday the 13th movie to pretend the events of the latest shitty sequel didn't happen and carry the low-budget franchise in a new direction. Double Oh 7 is proposing Disney fund 3 new tentpole flicks while writing off 50% of the Star Wars film universe that are still profitable, to please the old heads on the internet, it doesn't make sense.
It's one thing for a Friday the 13th movie to pretend the events of the latest shitty sequel didn't happen and carry the low-budget franchise in a new direction. Double Oh 7 is proposing Disney fund 3 new tentpole flicks while writing off 50% of the Star Wars film universe that are still profitable, to please the old heads on the internet, it doesn't make sense.
First, you ditch The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars Episode I: The Gathering Storm. This is the same essential story as Attack of the Clones, with the story tweaked, the Fetts removed, maybe use Darth Maul in place of Jango because he was the only cool thing about TPM.
Star Wars Episode II: Breaking the Republic. Same basic story as Revenge of the Sith. The major change is that, instead of trying to save Padme, Annakin succombs to the Dark Side because he thinks he can do good (ie, bring order to the Republic, because democracy is inefficient as per his conversation with Padme in AOTC). Film ends with Obi Wan leaving Annakin for dead and Padme (who is still alive) revealing to Obi Wan that she is pregnant.
Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith. (Because it's a cool title.) Wholly original movie. Darth Vader in his black suit first appears hunting down the last of the Jedi. Padme has given birth to the twins before the film begins. Vader battles Obi Wan, defeats him, and removes his mask, revealing himself to his former master. He does not kill Obi Wan, but promises to if he ever sees him again. Padme and Vader meet one final time; Padme tries to reach out to Annakin to save him, Vader wants only for her to rule the galaxy by his side after he kills Palpatine. He ultimately walks out on her. Film ends with a montage of Vader, Palpatine, and Tarkin starting work on the Death Star, Yoda exiling himself on Dagobagh, Padme and baby Leia hidden on Alderaan, and, finally, Obi Wan delivering baby Luke to the Lars homestead on Tatooine.
#7969
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A prequel to the prequels? That's too much, and all things considered the Old Republic games counted as a form of canon that no longer applies.
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Eh. It may be inspired by it but it also may not. It's not hard to believe that the Revan isn't an inspiration for it. Revan isn't such a unique look in the overall to where Ren can't be in itself an original design either.
Also.. Canon and influence/inspired don't mean the same thing.
Also.. Canon and influence/inspired don't mean the same thing.
#7972
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I have long said that the prequel trilogy could be remade without changing the overall story and still keeping Clone Wars mostly canon.
First, you ditch The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars Episode I: The Gathering Storm. This is the same essential story as Attack of the Clones, with the story tweaked, the Fetts removed, maybe use Darth Maul in place of Jango because he was the only cool thing about TPM.
Star Wars Episode II: Breaking the Republic. Same basic story as Revenge of the Sith. The major change is that, instead of trying to save Padme, Annakin succombs to the Dark Side because he thinks he can do good (ie, bring order to the Republic, because democracy is inefficient as per his conversation with Padme in AOTC). Film ends with Obi Wan leaving Annakin for dead and Padme (who is still alive) revealing to Obi Wan that she is pregnant.
Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith. (Because it's a cool title.) Wholly original movie. Darth Vader in his black suit first appears hunting down the last of the Jedi. Padme has given birth to the twins before the film begins. Vader battles Obi Wan, defeats him, and removes his mask, revealing himself to his former master. He does not kill Obi Wan, but promises to if he ever sees him again. Padme and Vader meet one final time; Padme tries to reach out to Annakin to save him, Vader wants only for her to rule the galaxy by his side after he kills Palpatine. He ultimately walks out on her. Film ends with a montage of Vader, Palpatine, and Tarkin starting work on the Death Star, Yoda exiling himself on Dagobagh, Padme and baby Leia hidden on Alderaan, and, finally, Obi Wan delivering baby Luke to the Lars homestead on Tatooine.
First, you ditch The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars Episode I: The Gathering Storm. This is the same essential story as Attack of the Clones, with the story tweaked, the Fetts removed, maybe use Darth Maul in place of Jango because he was the only cool thing about TPM.
Star Wars Episode II: Breaking the Republic. Same basic story as Revenge of the Sith. The major change is that, instead of trying to save Padme, Annakin succombs to the Dark Side because he thinks he can do good (ie, bring order to the Republic, because democracy is inefficient as per his conversation with Padme in AOTC). Film ends with Obi Wan leaving Annakin for dead and Padme (who is still alive) revealing to Obi Wan that she is pregnant.
Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith. (Because it's a cool title.) Wholly original movie. Darth Vader in his black suit first appears hunting down the last of the Jedi. Padme has given birth to the twins before the film begins. Vader battles Obi Wan, defeats him, and removes his mask, revealing himself to his former master. He does not kill Obi Wan, but promises to if he ever sees him again. Padme and Vader meet one final time; Padme tries to reach out to Annakin to save him, Vader wants only for her to rule the galaxy by his side after he kills Palpatine. He ultimately walks out on her. Film ends with a montage of Vader, Palpatine, and Tarkin starting work on the Death Star, Yoda exiling himself on Dagobagh, Padme and baby Leia hidden on Alderaan, and, finally, Obi Wan delivering baby Luke to the Lars homestead on Tatooine.
#7973
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yeah yeah, but we're talking about shit that happened 4000 years before the OT. that could easily be retconned...
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I would love to see a movie (or trilogy) set in the Knights of the Old Republic era. I don't necessarily mean it has to be based on the video game with Darth Revan, but just a movie or trilogy set during that time period thousands of years before The Phantom Menace.
Basically a movie about the ancient Jedi and ancient Sith. Their origins and beginning of their feud and the first Jedi/Sith war that led to the supposed "extinction" of the Sith and establishment of the Sith's "Rule of Two" to hide from the Jedi. That would be interesting to see in a movie.
It is interesting to note that Darth Bane is officially canon. Darth Bane is the Sith who survived the Jedi/Sith war and established the Rule of Two. Darth Bane is canon because he was mentioned in the CGI Clone Wars animated series, which is canon.
Basically a movie about the ancient Jedi and ancient Sith. Their origins and beginning of their feud and the first Jedi/Sith war that led to the supposed "extinction" of the Sith and establishment of the Sith's "Rule of Two" to hide from the Jedi. That would be interesting to see in a movie.
It is interesting to note that Darth Bane is officially canon. Darth Bane is the Sith who survived the Jedi/Sith war and established the Rule of Two. Darth Bane is canon because he was mentioned in the CGI Clone Wars animated series, which is canon.