Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
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So there's some pretty well-founded speculation that Lucasfilm is building toward some announcement on Oct. 30. It started with the posting of the Star Wars 1976 teaser on their official youtube page on 10/9, followed by The Empire Strikes Back teaser on 10/16. If the pattern holds, we should get Return of the Jedi on 10/23, then something on 10/30, which also happens to be the 1 year date of the official Disney announcement.
Could JJ have Bad Robot whip up a short teaser ala Super 8 or Cloverfield this early? Possibly. Or maybe Lucasfilm is just having a laugh with all of the fans.
Could JJ have Bad Robot whip up a short teaser ala Super 8 or Cloverfield this early? Possibly. Or maybe Lucasfilm is just having a laugh with all of the fans.
Personally, I'd lean more towards an announcement of the original theatrical versions of the Holy Trilogy on Blu-ray. No inside information, but the teasers, to me, remind me of the tone they took with the ads for the 1995 VHS and LD release of the theatricals, "one last time" and all that jazz.
I'm not getting my hopes up or anything, but if they're intent on recapturing the feeling of the OT and smooth over the hard feelings from the PT, then a sparkly new release of the original versions would go a long way in that regards.
#2303
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FWIW, I didn't mind some of the FX updates in the OT. What I didn't care for were the character altercations because of them (Han and Greedo, you know what it is). I think ESB had it best with a few background effects added here and there, but little else.
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Yeah, the subtle fx changes are fine(it does kinda keep it from feeling totally dated). It's all the character stuff that ruins it dating back to the original SE with putting a shitty looking Jabba and Fett in SW. The comedy intro into most seedy place in the galaxy is baffling. Greedo vs Han is a given. Giving Boba Fett, Jango's voice... ugh. Hayden in ROTJ is inexcusable. Having Fett mug for the camera in Jabba's palace, also terrible. Vader shouting "Nooooo!" at the Emperor, groan. Pretty much every thing involving a character is for the worse. Removing "Laptinek" and "Yub Nub" is also weak.
Polishing up matte lines, fixing sabers, wampa arm, livening up Bespin, even making Wicket blink is okay by with me. That's all polish, IMO.
Polishing up matte lines, fixing sabers, wampa arm, livening up Bespin, even making Wicket blink is okay by with me. That's all polish, IMO.
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A couple "insiders" on Twitter have claimed that Mark Hamill might have recorded something for a teaser that will be out before the end of the year. I guess it's a possibility (the first teaser for J.J.'s Star Trek used no footage from the film), but I'm still calling BS on that one. Prove me wrong, Disney.
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A couple "insiders" on Twitter have claimed that Mark Hamill might have recorded something for a teaser that will be out before the end of the year. I guess it's a possibility (the first teaser for J.J.'s Star Trek used no footage from the film), but I'm still calling BS on that one. Prove me wrong, Disney.
#2307
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I love that clip above, because not only does it confirm that Ford is in the new Star Wars, but it confirms Cumberbatch is too.
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A couple "insiders" on Twitter have claimed that Mark Hamill might have recorded something for a teaser that will be out before the end of the year. I guess it's a possibility (the first teaser for J.J.'s Star Trek used no footage from the film), but I'm still calling BS on that one. Prove me wrong, Disney.
though an unaltered OT blu ray release would make me just as happy.
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But yeah, a narration for the BD release would be pretty cool.
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Any release of the films thru 2020 has to be done thru Fox, so if they did another release, they would be getting the same cut of that release that they're getting now. Really no reason to do another release unless they're going to release the unaltered OT.
#2311
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I still don't think we will ever get the unaltered OT again on any format officially. Disney's movies are going to be made to coincide with the shitty prequels and the even shittier special editions of the original trilogy.
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I'm not expecting it either, but that's the only way that Disney working on a new release (as some had postulated) makes any sense at all. They can only make new releases thru Fox at this time, so unless they've got a substantially different product to put out, it makes zero sense to do another release anytime soon, when Fox has just done a repackage in the last month.
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The majority of changes made to the OT have little to no impact on the prequel trilogy, or to any sequel trilogy. Having Han shoot first doesn't affect the overall plot, nor does having Vader scream "NOOOOOOOOOOO!" when throwing the Emperor over the railing, or Jabba appearing in A New Hope, etc. The changes are mostly character or tone based, not plot points. So releasing the unaltered OT, especially as an extra feature to a re-release of the SE versions, isn't an issue for the sequel trilogy.
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Disney is aware of the perception of the PT, and I think they're going to be pulling out all the stops to get on the good side of the OT fans.
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I don't think the cancelling of Clone Wars has anything to do with distancing from the PT, and more with trying to move as much of Star Wars in-house to Disney as possible. Clone Wars was airing on Cartoon Network, while Star Wars Rebels is going to air on Disney XD. Likely, Cartoon Network had some sort of contract that would keep Clone Wars on their network as long as it ran, so Disney "cancelled" it, is going to burn off the remaining episodes some other way, and created a new series that they could place on one of their own networks.
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What made me think about this was there was a PBS Documentary on the other night about the history of Superheroes and Comic Books. I have never read comic books, but I have always been interested in Superhero movies.
The big point they made was that in the 1990's, Comic Book market nosedived mostly because their audience was getting older, and their content was still geared to teenagers and little kids.
That is when many comic books made a concerted effort to start making material that geared toward an older audience, so it was alot more adult type storylines then your basic storylines of the past.
I always relate Star Wars to this same problem, as Lucas had to decide who he was marketing the PT to? Was he going to grow with the OT audience and gear it towards them? Or was going to gear towards kids/teenagers and go after a whole new audience, with the possibility of alienating the OT audience?
If Disney goes the PT route with the ST, I think most OT fans will bail at after Episode 7. Most of my friends aren't that excited for the ST the same way they were for the PT simply because they feel they got burned, and don't want to get burned again. But I know they will atleast give Episode 7 a shot since its a new director, writer, studio, but if it sucks, they wont come back for Episode 8 & 9 like they did Episode 1 & 2.
It will be interesting to see what happens....
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I always relate Star Wars to this same problem, as Lucas had to decide who he was marketing the PT to? Was he going to grow with the OT audience and gear it towards them? Or was going to gear towards kids/teenagers and go after a whole new audience, with the possibility of alienating the OT audience?
If Disney goes the PT route with the ST, I think most OT fans will bail at after Episode 7. Most of my friends aren't that excited for the ST the same way they were for the PT simply because they feel they got burned, and don't want to get burned again. But I know they will atleast give Episode 7 a shot since its a new director, writer, studio, but if it sucks, they wont come back for Episode 8 & 9 like they did Episode 1 & 2.
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Secondly, the original Star Wars films were not kids films, they were family films; meaning that they had a level of appeal for all ages, although kids grabbed onto it more. For example, I'm in my 30's, but I still watch Pixar films because they provide a level of entertainment for my age group. In contrast, the PT failed appealing to all ages like the OT did; Lucas aimed a lot of it at kids with poop jokes and funny talking CGI characters, but he also put in political intrigue and dark character development for the adults; the problem was that it was executed so poorly across all levels that it was mostly only kids, who aren't as discriminatory, could find them enjoyable.
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I wasn't in line for Ep 2 & 3, and if Ep 7 is crap, I likely won't be in line for Ep 8 & 9.
Hell, I'll probably wait for the reviews before seeing Ep 7. I'm willing to give it a shot, but Star Wars no longer engenders blind faith.
Hell, I'll probably wait for the reviews before seeing Ep 7. I'm willing to give it a shot, but Star Wars no longer engenders blind faith.
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I don't think the cancelling of Clone Wars has anything to do with distancing from the PT, and more with trying to move as much of Star Wars in-house to Disney as possible. Clone Wars was airing on Cartoon Network, while Star Wars Rebels is going to air on Disney XD. Likely, Cartoon Network had some sort of contract that would keep Clone Wars on their network as long as it ran, so Disney "cancelled" it, is going to burn off the remaining episodes some other way, and created a new series that they could place on one of their own networks.
But your point is correct, and the official Star Wars machine will probably just avoid doing any televised Clone Wars stuff until that arrangement expires. Doing a new show is a double-edged sword and it frees them up from the Warner deal but they have to establish a bunch of new licensing agreements too.
It's kinda hilarious to think that there are legal documents somewhere that stipulate that Warner and Cartoon Network have television and video rights to events that take place during fake BBY Star Wars years.
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I don't disagree about judging 8 & 9 based on 7, but I couldn't disagree more about being wary of 7 by itself. Not only is there new talent behind it, but it's far easier to make satisfactory sequels than trying to shoe-horn prequels in. Completely different, at least on paper, than what happened 15 years ago.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams, S: The casts of Star Trek, Lost, Felicit
Secondly, the original Star Wars films were not kids films, they were family films; meaning that they had a level of appeal for all ages, although kids grabbed onto it more.
....in contrast, the PT failed appealing to all ages like the OT did; Lucas aimed a lot of it at kids with poop jokes and funny talking CGI characters, but he also put in political intrigue and dark character development for the adults; the problem was that it was executed so poorly across all levels that it was mostly only kids, who aren't as discriminatory, could find them enjoyable.
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I don't disagree about judging 8 & 9 based on 7, but I couldn't disagree more about being wary of 7 by itself. Not only is there new talent behind it, but it's far easier to make satisfactory sequels than trying to shoe-horn prequels in. Completely different, at least on paper, than what happened 15 years ago.
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It certainly won't be the same feeling as the day Episode One opened, but still, I don't think I can keep myself out of the theater for that entire first weekend, regardless of reviews.
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If the reviews say it's as good or better than the new Star Trek films, I'll go.