Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
08-26-19, 08:59 AM
#1376
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
As I said, I was skeptical of the rumor. Foremost, because it doesn't sound like something Disney would go for.
On the other hand, I'm not sure how fully any Disney rumor can be debunked. The Mouse plays his cards pretty close to his vest. If there's something they don't want known, they're never going to confirm it and their employees are going to toe the company line.
08-26-19, 09:27 AM
#1377
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Interesting take on this and seems some think it has traction....
Star Wars:The Force Unleashed May Be The Inspiration For A Huge Plot Twist In Rise of Skywalker .... https://www.gameinformer.com/gamer-c...uge-plot-twist
"A month ago, the exceptional YouTube channel
offered up a new take on Rey's parentage: she may be a clone......
Rey may in fact turn to the dark side in the film, but I have a feeling she won't. We will instead see multiple Rey clones, perhaps dozens of them, all serving The Emperor, except for one of them: the Rey we have been following since we met her on Jakku. She will remain on the light side.
In Rian Johnson's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, we were led to believe Rey's parents were insignificant, drunken nobodies. That may still be the case in The Rise of Skywalker, but I have a feeling we're going to learn she was adopted. The blood in her veins will be from Jedi that were used in a cloning experiment. The cave sequence in The Last Jedi basically showed us the concept of clones. Even though she was looking in a mirror, when Rey snapped her fingers, the timing was different, implying something is off, almost like each one had independent thought and were repeating the actions of the real Rey....."
Star Wars:The Force Unleashed May Be The Inspiration For A Huge Plot Twist In Rise of Skywalker .... https://www.gameinformer.com/gamer-c...uge-plot-twist
"A month ago, the exceptional YouTube channel
Rey may in fact turn to the dark side in the film, but I have a feeling she won't. We will instead see multiple Rey clones, perhaps dozens of them, all serving The Emperor, except for one of them: the Rey we have been following since we met her on Jakku. She will remain on the light side.
In Rian Johnson's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, we were led to believe Rey's parents were insignificant, drunken nobodies. That may still be the case in The Rise of Skywalker, but I have a feeling we're going to learn she was adopted. The blood in her veins will be from Jedi that were used in a cloning experiment. The cave sequence in The Last Jedi basically showed us the concept of clones. Even though she was looking in a mirror, when Rey snapped her fingers, the timing was different, implying something is off, almost like each one had independent thought and were repeating the actions of the real Rey....."
08-26-19, 09:33 AM
#1378
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
At this point just have a bunch of Luke clones fighting each other for 2 hours and call it a day.
How in the world has SW gotten to this level of insanity?
How in the world has SW gotten to this level of insanity?
08-26-19, 10:48 AM
#1381
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Watch your local and national news on opening night because if they redeem Kylo Ren in any way I will rip my seat from the floor of the theater and throw it at the screen.
08-26-19, 11:21 AM
#1384
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
08-26-19, 11:21 AM
#1385
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
08-26-19, 11:32 AM
#1386
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
I've never understood the argument for a property like Star Wars to dismiss an idea because it's fan service. Well hello of course there are a lot of fans. Why would you not want to make a movie that will please the fans? Of course you don't want to do something at the cost of the narrative but they could have easily had the three of them together FOR AT LEAST ONE DAMN SHOT!! How was that such a difficult thing to pull off? It could have even been in the form of a flash back. No matter if IX wraps up this saga in a satisfying manner or not this will be one giant failure of this whole ST.
08-26-19, 12:22 PM
#1387
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This being the most talked about part of the footage turns out to be the most underwhelming. It's just Rey in a cloak with a gimmick lightsaber.
I have cooled substantially on this movie. With all the OT characters (more or less) gone, I realize I have nearly no attachment to any of the new ones. One is more generic and unmemorable than the next. And say what you will about TLJ, it looked amazing, like a real honest to God film. TFA looks small and slick by comparison, and TRoS looks like more of that. Like a modern day sci-fi blockbuster, stuffed with CGI that will look dated in just a couple years, and characters doing the impossible solely because it looks 'cool'.
I have cooled substantially on this movie. With all the OT characters (more or less) gone, I realize I have nearly no attachment to any of the new ones. One is more generic and unmemorable than the next. And say what you will about TLJ, it looked amazing, like a real honest to God film. TFA looks small and slick by comparison, and TRoS looks like more of that. Like a modern day sci-fi blockbuster, stuffed with CGI that will look dated in just a couple years, and characters doing the impossible solely because it looks 'cool'.
08-26-19, 01:14 PM
#1389
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Interesting take on this and seems some think it has traction....
Star Wars:The Force Unleashed May Be The Inspiration For A Huge Plot Twist In Rise of Skywalker .... https://www.gameinformer.com/gamer-c...uge-plot-twist
"A month ago, the exceptional YouTube channel Star Wars Theory offered up a new take on Rey's parentage: she may be a clone......
Rey may in fact turn to the dark side in the film, but I have a feeling she won't. We will instead see multiple Rey clones, perhaps dozens of them, all serving The Emperor, except for one of them: the Rey we have been following since we met her on Jakku. She will remain on the light side.
In Rian Johnson's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, we were led to believe Rey's parents were insignificant, drunken nobodies. That may still be the case in The Rise of Skywalker, but I have a feeling we're going to learn she was adopted. The blood in her veins will be from Jedi that were used in a cloning experiment. The cave sequence in The Last Jedi basically showed us the concept of clones. Even though she was looking in a mirror, when Rey snapped her fingers, the timing was different, implying something is off, almost like each one had independent thought and were repeating the actions of the real Rey....."
Star Wars:The Force Unleashed May Be The Inspiration For A Huge Plot Twist In Rise of Skywalker .... https://www.gameinformer.com/gamer-c...uge-plot-twist
"A month ago, the exceptional YouTube channel Star Wars Theory offered up a new take on Rey's parentage: she may be a clone......
Rey may in fact turn to the dark side in the film, but I have a feeling she won't. We will instead see multiple Rey clones, perhaps dozens of them, all serving The Emperor, except for one of them: the Rey we have been following since we met her on Jakku. She will remain on the light side.
In Rian Johnson's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, we were led to believe Rey's parents were insignificant, drunken nobodies. That may still be the case in The Rise of Skywalker, but I have a feeling we're going to learn she was adopted. The blood in her veins will be from Jedi that were used in a cloning experiment. The cave sequence in The Last Jedi basically showed us the concept of clones. Even though she was looking in a mirror, when Rey snapped her fingers, the timing was different, implying something is off, almost like each one had independent thought and were repeating the actions of the real Rey....."
08-26-19, 01:37 PM
#1390
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This is reminding me more and more of the Dark Horse Comics "Dark Empire" series. The Emperor survived ROTJ as he was actually a clone and Rey (instead of Luke) turning to the dark side.
08-26-19, 01:41 PM
#1391
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
More stuff they just borrow from the original EU. It could also be similar scenario from The Last Command.
08-26-19, 01:48 PM
#1392
DVD Talk Legend
08-26-19, 02:50 PM
#1393
DVD Talk Limited Edition
08-26-19, 03:32 PM
#1394
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
My first thought was that's it's simply a dark vision, like Luke's on Dagobah, but the clone thing could work. Maybe the people the dumped her on Jakku were trying to protect her by getting her out of the Emperor's reach.
08-26-19, 04:11 PM
#1395
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
It looked like a fake, fan-made trailer for a moment. For example the inclusion of PT scenes when I thought Disney wanted us to forget the PT. The dual red lightsaber reveal reminded me of how underwhelming and gimmicky it looked in the TPM trailer.
08-26-19, 04:15 PM
#1396
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This is true. But I dislike the idea of something from AOTC resurfacing in this film.
08-26-19, 04:25 PM
#1397
Moderator
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Rey may in fact turn to the dark side in the film, but I have a feeling she won't. We will instead see multiple Rey clones, perhaps dozens of them, all serving The Emperor, except for one of them: the Rey we have been following since we met her on Jakku. She will remain on the light side.
As for the trailer, it was basically a second teaser, since this first half was unnecessary clips from older movies.
08-26-19, 04:31 PM
#1398
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
I absolutely expect Rey to be a clone.
they want to further tie the ST with the PT to make it more of a cohesive arc, despite it ultimately likely going to feel forced. (no pun intended)
they want to further tie the ST with the PT to make it more of a cohesive arc, despite it ultimately likely going to feel forced. (no pun intended)
08-26-19, 04:54 PM
#1399
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Palpatine built his army with Clones so it makes sense he may have been tinkering with the technology for other purposes. The question is if Rey is a clone who is she a clone of? Luke (maybe via his severed hand?), Anakin/Vader possibly, Palpatine himself, or maybe a combination of them all. Some interesting ways it could play out really.
We still never got the explanation for how Anakin/Luke’s blue lightsaber was ever found. The idea that maybe Rey is a clone and came partly from Luke and that’s why the saber called to her could be a good explanation. It’s also a good way to explain why she’s so powerful from the get go, which I’m sure will ruffle some feathers if that’s the given explanation, but she was overpowered from the start even though I don’t mind her as a character.
To be honest I’ll be a bit disappointed if it’s not something along these lines because the more I think about it I kind of like the idea. Really seems like it would work well.
Last edited by Mike86; 08-26-19 at 05:00 PM.
08-26-19, 04:56 PM
#1400
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This would be a good way to tie it together in my opinion. Have Rey be a lost clone, that grows up good, showing that we people can fight against their nature. We saw some of it in the animated Clone Wars and Rebels series where some clones were able to resist the Order 66 programming and go on to fight alongside the Rebellion.
