SeanValen

They should keep the video games going, how many movies have been made because of video games, as long as the Buffy games are around also, possibly a Angel game down the line, bring together Angel, Buffy, Spike and Faith in a big screen adaptation, hell make a trilogy, fund each film around 25 million, 75 million total budget for three films, given how Joss and the tv people gave Angel a cinematic scope for tv, for under 2 million a episode, far cheaper then X files was, then movies wouldn't be a problem around 25-30million. Fox would get its money back easily with dvds anyway whether it goes well threatically or not, as long as Joss goes all out to make the ultimate 3 part movie saga featuring the characters!! I can dream.

Morf

Wow. Please throw in a few periods and other punctuation marks next time.

SeanValen

Ok.

Call-In Campaign

Angelians:

A number of sites have been pushing this, and it's something we should have called for earlier:

During tonight's showing of ANGEL, call into your local WB affiliate broadcasting the show.

From
http://www.saveangel.org/index.php?story=57


Call-In Campaign


The list of affiliates can be found here: http://www.thewb.com/Stations/Index

Give your demographics: Age, occupation and name. Tell them you are currently enjoying the program ANGEL, which you have just discovered is being cancelled. Tell them how disappointed you are because it has become one of your favorite television series, one that makes you watch *other* WB programs.

Mention that if this series were no longer at The WB, you would likely be watching another network.

Then ask them to pass the word to their general managers, who are the ones directly responsible to the networks.

Let us know what response you get (and from which affiliate) in the Discussion Forums![












Campaign Status


Total funds raised as of
February 25, 2004, at 23:30 GMT:
$10,729.60!

First Goal: Place ad in the The Hollywood Reporter
Cost: Approximately $3,250 for a full page black and white ad.
Status: We have raised 100% toward this goal!
Second Goal: Place ad in Variety
Cost: Approximately $3,250 for a full page black and white ad.
Status: We have raised 100% toward this goal!
Third Goal: 2 week Guerilla Billboards campaign
Cost: $9,000 for 2 weeks
Status: We have raised $2,720.60 toward this goal!

Not only did we meet our first two goals by raising funds for ads in The Hollywood Reporter and Variety, we’ve been offered -assistance- in getting a deeper discount with Variety than we could get on our own. Our original estimate was $7,000 for both ads, and we now hope to spend less, but until all arrangements are finalized, we’re holding a full $8,000 aside for the ads. Final figures and ad publication dates will be posted as soon as we sign off on each deal.

We have to keep the pressure on! The fact that we raised enough for both ads within 38 hours of going live is already yesterday’s news. Now we have to set another attention-getting goal and let the media know that we’re still fighting.

$9,000 will buy us two weeks on Guerilla Billboards, advertising trucks that can cover the Santa Monica/Los Angeles area. (Although just having it drive around the block where the WB has its headquarters would be worth the price. Or, you know, park across the street from the main entrance for about an hour while the driver takes lunch? We get to work out the route taken by the trucks.) A draft of the billboard ad will be available as soon as we can finalize the design and upload it to the site.

So, you in? Keep donating to our paypal account!

The information here will be updated at least once a day.

SeanValen

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristi...04/040227.html

Vote at E-Online for Angel, the top vote for shows will be send to networks.

Don't Hate TV Execs for Arresting Your Favorite Series--Save a Show with Your Vote

Doug Heffernan

Where is the link to donate?

WarriorPrincess

"Levin continued to go further into explaining why the show about the soulful vampire was not renewed for a sixth season. He said, "We need to create timeslots where we can repeat shows.""

"As Levin continued to talk of the reasons why Angel was axed, he said, “The show had a loyal core following, but it didn't have a tremendous amount of new audience upside." One has to question the decision from Levin to buy the rights to Dark Shadows which is from the same genre as Angel - opting to take "new" over "already established." "

These types of comments just infuriate me. It's the same kind of attitude that Disney fans are ousting Eisner for. Instead of promoting innovation, quality, and superior storytelling, they'd rather regurgitate what was once quality work into a steaming pile of crap.

Don't they realize how many potential "Dark Shadows" viewers they are alienating by this decision? I mean really - axing Angel while in its prime simply because they aren't satisfied with a strong consistent performance but want unrealistic growth each year is idiotic. Where is the loyalty to those who have been loyal to the show for 5 years?!? And to slap us in the face with the comment that Angel would be replaced with REPEATS? I'm extremely insulted. Right now the only shows I watch on the WB are Angel, Gilmore Girls, Charmed and Smallville. I watch the first two because I love them and the last two because I'm a loyal viewer once I get hooked on a show, even though both leave a lot to be desired.

Don't they realize that if they even gave us half a season next year to finish out Angel as Joss wanted, and used it as a lead in for Dark Shadows, that they'd get a whole lot more viewers? As it is, Angel fans, myself included, will boycott a show we likely would have watched because of the WB's actions. Just like I did when SciFi cancelled Farscape, I wash my hands of the station. I haven't watched anything on SciFi since Farscape, and I will watch nothing on the WB save for the other three shows I mentioned. And as those shows are cancelled, I will no longer watch WB at all. Why should I - they obviously don't want my loyalty or consumer spending, and any show I might like would get cancelled in it's prime anyway.

In this tv world of reality crap, Angel was one of my bright spots of hope. First Farscape and then Firefly were gone, and now Angel is almost gone - looks my days of loving tv in general are almost gone. I don't really mind when a series is actually done, like Sex and the City, Xena, or Buffy, but when they are cut down before they should be, I'm heartbroken. Geez - I've loved tv since I was a little kid - it took a lot to get me this bitter and cynical, but I guess I'm there.

Original Desmond

only the good die young

SeanValen

http://www.savingangel.com/


Pay Pal link is on the site.

SeanValen

Agreed, but continue to fight the good fight until it really is the end:


www.renewangel.com

www.savingangel.com


I have mourned a bit already, but as there's still some hope, I'm keeping my spirits up until it is really done. Farscape and Roswell did come back for a while after strong fan campaigns, the angel fan base has my respect and effort until something is definate.

I remember at the end of season four and Angel was on the bubble, and I was thinking, I just want season five, come on, one more season, renew it Wb for one more season, they did, but given how this season has shaped up and everyone enjoying it, it's hard to take, now season five is likely the last, need one more miracle, will it happen, well it feels like the end, but it certainly isn't going out unheard, that's the hope, and it can drive us fans insane waiting until that hope is realised or not.

SeanValen

[b]


News from Whedonesque and savingangel.org


http://www.saveangel.org/index.php?story=67

Article:

WB Affiliates Push ANGEL Campaigns
(#67)posted Saturday February 28 2004 07:47:26 AM by Site Admin()
Contact for Tribune Broadcasting


Dissention in The WB Family?

19 Affiliates Push Save ANGEL Sites

The Web sites of the biggest WB affiliates in the US have posted a call to action for fans of ANGEL. Could this be an indication of dissention in the ranks at The WB family?

19 stations, covering the most populated US urban areas, have all posted the same weekly Web site news package urging local viewers of ANGEL to rally in force and "Log on and do what you can." The posting provides a list of the three "Save ANGEL" Web links and notes, "Never say die folks."

These weekly "Angel Bits" packages are produced in-house for affiliate stations' sites by Tribune Interactive, an arm of the Tribune Company of Chicago, one of the US's largest and oldest broadcasters. The company is an outgrowth of the Chicago Tribune newspaper founded in 1847, whose renowned slogan "World's Greatest Newspaper" also appears in the "WGN" call-letters of its radio and television holdings.

What might surprise ANGEL viewers is that the Tribune Broadcasting Company holds a 22% stake in the WB Network. That makes it second largest shareholder, behind Time Warner's 66% share and ahead of the 11% held by WB network executives. Of the Tribune's 26 TV stations, 19 are WB affiliates. Its big urban WB holdings include KTLA, WLVI-Boston, KDAF-Dallas, WPIX-New York and the core of its media empire, "World's Greatest Network" WGN-Chicago.

This would also seem to indicate an appropriate target for fan campaigns: the Tribune Broadcasting Company's President, Patrick J. Mullen:

Tribune Broadcasting Company
Ste. 1800, 435 N. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, Illinois 60611, USA
Phone: (312) 222-3333
Fax: (312) 329-0611





This is from a forumer at WB forums who called them up.


The way I understand it, There's the overall ratings and then each affiliate has ratings for their station. I contacted my local affiliate and was surprised to get a reply within 24 hours.

Here is the response I got.

Tami -

Thanks for writing to us. Your feelings are shared by many including many here at KBWB. Angel has been one of the strongest shows on our schedule. We have already voiced our opinion to the network and we will send your comments along to them as well. Thanks for sharing your opinions with us and thanks for watching.



Bob Anderson

President, General Manager

KBWB - WB20

415-401-1900

[email protected]

I have to say it's nice to know the fans aren't the only ones unhappy with levin's decision. It's not just the fans that Levin is screwing, it's also those stations that are affiliated with them. I've seen fans get behind a show before and do the whole petition thing, but I don't think I've ever seen a situation like this one before.












The fight isn't over yet.

Have you called up your local wb station up? I don't live in Amercia, but some of you do and it all adds up, phone them!!

A complete list of Tribune stations' sites and other subsidiaries is available at http://www.tribune.com/about/webguide/

areacode212

What are you guys writing on your postcards? I'm going to be writing about how I'm a 28-year-old male with lots of disposable income...the exact kind of viewer that most shows (except for Angel) are losing, and how much I love the show, etc...

Puzznic

AT least Joss is continuing the saeason as planned, thus giving the opportunity for the WB to reverse their decision. Its just so silly, as i think most Angel fans just want more season to plaaned out as the final season from the beginning. Would it be so hard to for them to just commit to one more season to avoid pissing off a huge amount of their loyal viewers?

SeanValen

Pretty much good, age, sex, money to spend on those advertisements, willing to not to watch anything else.

And be polite.


At:
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/roush/askmatt/
quote
Question:
Instead of begging and protesting, let's just pay the WB (or UPN) for another season of Angel. I for one would gladly fork over $50 for a new season and I don't doubt you could find thousands of other fans who would do the same. I don't have any idea how much it would take to tip the balance, but surely an extra million or two straight to the bottom line would make a difference. — Craig C.

Matt:
You'd think. And what a novel way of going about financing TV: sort of the grass-roots, Internet, Howard Dean approach. (Now I'm thinking of starting a telethon to raise enough money to keep CBS from inflicting another summer of Big Brother on us.) If the letters and postcards I've been getting from all over the country — and world — are any indication, the industry is going to have to develop a very deaf ear to ignore the protestations of the many Angel-Joss Whedon fans out there. It's inspiring — if it weren't so annoying that it had to come to this.



You know, I never thought I would be tempted to pay for Angel in a big way, I would give 100 pounds if WB asked for it, just one more bloody season, the pain, the pain!!

Puzznic

Definitely. If the WB opened some kind of account to raise money where they would refund the money if the show was not picked up, i would throw some money in as well

Chew

Link

Doug Heffernan

Please note that none of this information has been confirmed by UPN or Twentieth Century Fox Television -- which produces "Angel" -- and should be treated as any other rumor would be treated.

Barry Woodward

Gellar Open To Angel Gig

Sarah Michelle Gellar, former star of TV's Buffy the Vampire Slayer, told SCI FI Wire the reasons she reluctantly pulled out of appearing in the Buffy spinoff Angel earlier this season and left open the possibility that she might still make an appearance, if asked, before Angel winds up its fifth and final season this year on The WB. Gellar, speaking for the first time about the issue, said in an interview that she had to bow out of a planned guest appearance on Angel when her aunt died late last year. Gellar spoke to SCI FI Wire during a break in the filming of her new project, the supernatural horror film The Grudge, in Tokyo.

Her Angel decision was "a really common misconception that people have written a lot about," Gellar said. "They had asked me to do Angel, and it was a very bad time in my personal life. There was a lot going on in my family. And I had to back out. And you sort of never hear the second side of the story. You never hear why I didn't do it. And then all of a sudden, people get really angry, and nobody asks why it didn't work for you." At the time, reports suggested that Gellar had pulled out because she wanted to distance herself from the Buffy franchise.

As for whether she will guest star in Angel's season-ending episodes, much as Angel star David Boreanaz did on Buffy when it wrapped its seven-year run last spring, Gellar said it hinges in part on her schedule. She's finishing the final weeks of 42 days of shooting on The Grudge, with at least nine more shooting days to go. The final Angel episodes are in production now.

"A lot has been written about recently, 'Oh, is she going to do it? Is she not going to do it?'" Gellar said. "Well, to be truthful, I don't know if I'm even going to make it home before they finish. But no one's contacted me. I'll be totally honest. And it depends. I think. I go back and forth on the idea, especially because Angel had such a hard time, in my opinion, always getting out from Buffy's shadow. And it never got to stand on its own. And I would hate for it to go out being about Buffy. It'll all depend on if I'm home in time and what the ideas are."

Buffy and Angel creator Joss Whedon has said he'd welcome an appearance by Gellar. For her part, she said she's open to it, explaining, "If everything falls into place, and it feels like the right thing at the time for the right people."

Sci-Fi Wire

SeanValen

I was just about to post that Barry.

Well it's good Sarah has spoken up about it, it's that she's open to it, at the same time, it might be not possible with little time left, plus she spoke creatively that the show probabley doesn't need her to be there at the end, which echos what some fans have said, if Joss doesn't creatively have a idea for it, no need to ask and she's said she hasn't been approached anyway.

ChrisHicks

too bad the EVIL known as the Sci-Fi channel wouldn't take the show. it would bring me back to the network.

xVladx

Seriously. You'd think that the show was covered in festering boils or something. It's a show that's getting very good ratings, with an insanely loyal fanbase, yet none of the other networks want to pick it up.

SeanValen

saveangel.org also has a link to saying stop posting post cards to UPN.

So there is just one hope left, that WB would reconsider their decision, it's them who have recieved criticism, Angel season 5 wasn't annournced until May last year, so all focus is back on WB to consider their decision.

It's likely the end though, but it's the definate end when WB announce their fall line up in May without Angel.

SeanValen

From
http://www.savingangel.org/downloads.html


UPN has decided to take a pass on picking up ANGEL, but we're not down and out yet!

The coming weeks are CRITICAL. We need to be heard in a big way. We need to send a strong message via a flood of post cards.

While UPN may be out of the picture, Tribune Broadcasting Company (to whom we've been sending cards for the past few days) have actually solicited fans to protest via postcards, as they feel ANGEL is a valuable show with a strong fan base.

This is our new game plan:

While continuing to flood Tribune with our support, as per their request, we've also decided to think big and hit The WB where it hurts the most:

The Big Bosses, AKA The Big Shareholders.

Time Warner, Inc. holds 66% of the stock of The WB, and so we picked our new target for a post card avalanche from among the Time Warner brass.

These are our current targets:

Time Warner, Inc
Jeffrey L. Bewkes
Chairman, Entertainment and Networks
Time Warner, Inc.
75 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10019
USA


Tribune Broadcasting Company
Patrick J. Mullen, President
Tribune Broadcasting Company
Ste. 1800, 435 N. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, Illinois 60611
USA


We chose Mr. Bewkes because his position is higher than Jordan Levin's (head of The WB) in the corporation, so he has power over Levin, and because he is part of the upper corporate structure, working in the division where the stock is held. Any way you slice it, having Mr. Bewkes aware of our efforts and commitment to save ANGEL, is a great thing.

As stated above, we also chose to continue to hit Mr. Mullin, the president of Tribune Broadcasting Company, to provide Tribune with the fan support they asked for, if and when they decide to voice their dissatisfaction with the loss of ANGEL. Tribune Broadcasting Company holds a 22% stake in the WB Network making it second largest shareholder, behind Time Warner's 66% share and ahead of the 11% held by WB network executives.

Send as many cards as possible to both targets!

Let's get cracking and get our show back!

Josh-da-man

Take this with a grain of salt: http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=3446

Be nice if it was true, though I am skeptical.

Then again, I don't think I've seen such an outpouring of support for a cancelled series, not even "Farscape."

SeanValen

True, the Angel campaigns have been very strong, fans and media reaction alike, there's that chance.

Original Desmond

can a show survive from dvd sales alone ?

imagine if each episode of angel was for sale at your local newsagent for $7