Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
The question is where another bomb would come from but my guess is that Radzinsky knows where to find one.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
I agree with most of your points in this thread, but not so sure about this one. Now that we know what happened with Locke, and that the same (or very similar) thing happened with Christian, I'm pretty convinced that the producers' declaration of "dead is dead" is true. What else are you basing this on? (And even though I was disappointed in the Jin death fake-out, we never saw a body or an actual death there.)
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There was no fake-out there. They showed Jin on the boat then Sun screaming then they cut away for 22 seconds (for Christian's appearance) then cut back for the explosion. Plenty of time for Jin to leap off and into the water.
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I agree with most of your points in this thread, but not so sure about this one. Now that we know what happened with Locke, and that the same (or very similar) thing happened with Christian, I'm pretty convinced that the producers' declaration of "dead is dead" is true. What else are you basing this on? (And even though I was disappointed in the Jin death fake-out, we never saw a body or an actual death there.)
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Jin could actually have died and his real corpse will turn up in season 6. You don't know if Jin pulled a Locke too.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
I think EVERYBODY died in the plane crash, and the island is just purgatory.
DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND?!?
DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND?!?
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
It's not a cheat if a character dies then you see them again in flashback or talking to others. This show does not have linear storytelling so it's not A->B->character dies->C->D->character dies->etc...Any show that bounces back and forth in time and uses flashbacks is bound to reuse actors after their characters have died.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Interesting theory. I can see that as a possibility. Sayid got to have sex with Shannon though. Sawyer did it with Ana Lucia and Juliet. Jack boned Kate. Hurley did the deed with Libby. Rose and Bernard screw all the time. I thought that wasn't possible in purgatory?
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
FWIW, the blast door map basically says that the polar bears were used for science experiments (adapting species outside of their natural habitat).
The question one should have is if the FDW is used to transport a person off the Island to Tunisia, what sense does it make for a polar bear to be the one to turn it and leave?
The question one should have is if the FDW is used to transport a person off the Island to Tunisia, what sense does it make for a polar bear to be the one to turn it and leave?
The FDW ISN'T used for transporting a person off the island, they use a sub fro that. The FDW is used for moving the island. The transportation to Tunisia is an unfortunate side-effect which is why they would breed and train polar bears to do it instead of just having some guy put on a heavy coat and go turn the wheel.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
I guess not much drama in finding dead donkeys in the Tunisian desert.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
I don't think you can argue that it wasn't shot and edited with the intention of making us think that Jin had died.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Read this very carefully. You need to find someone important to you. Someone that you'll still know in 2009. The next time you have one of your flashes, you MUST call this person.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
I would argue that it was shot and edited to allow people to jump to the conclusion that Jin had died. But there was nothing in the scene that gave any kind of definitive proof that he had died. Not the way they did when any of the other major characters have died.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Yes, exactly. Which is why I referred to it as a "fake-out" rather than a "lie."
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
OK, maybe it's just a matter of semantics, then. No one made anyone think Jin was dead. They may have led viewers up to the edge of a cliff and shouted "JUMP!", but they didn't push anyone over the edge. Everyone who jumped did so on their own.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Classic subtle audience manipulation with great editing and a wonderful performance by Yunjin Kim with her chilling scream to sell Jin's death.
Of course, since we now know that Jin plays a part in '70's Dharma, maybe the island helped him survive the explosion.
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Why did they need a POLAR BEAR? Why not use a...well...donkey? I mean, donkeys are a heck of a lot more manageable than polar bears. And please don't tell me that they used bears because it's a little cold.
I guess not much drama in finding dead donkeys in the Tunisian desert.
I guess not much drama in finding dead donkeys in the Tunisian desert.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
They were already doing experiments with Polar Bears at the Hydra station so they borrowed one and had it turn the wheel because they didn't want to risk the life of a human without testing it first. I'm sure they did their testing in the chamber at The Orchid but this is completely different. It vanished but they didn't know where it ended up. They eventually figured out that the exit point was Tunisia probably via an very scared volunteer. I'm thinking that Ben might have been the first to try it. The assistant in the Orchid video looks like a Ben that might be around 19 years old (in 1981). They might've sent the dead guy (with the tooth that flew out of his head) through the chamber first to make sure a human would come through in one piece.
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Re: Lost -- 2 Hour Season Finale -- "The Incident" -- 5/13/09
Maybe having observed such "classic audience manipulation" for over 40 years makes it easy to not make such assumptions. But then, I wasn't completely convinced that Charlie was dead for a long time.
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