The Xbox 360 Compendium
08-24-05, 10:46 AM
#526
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Astoria, NY
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by joshd2012
When the PS2 was released, it had all the bells and all the whistles compared to its only competition - the DC. It had a DVD player for crying out loud.
It just seems to me that the money tight gamer who can only afford the core version would be the one who made most use of their old Xbox games.
It just seems to me that the money tight gamer who can only afford the core version would be the one who made most use of their old Xbox games.
Has anyone been able to download or view the Kameo video from the German E3 on IGN? It's been made Insider access only and was curious as to how the title was coming along.
For some reason the only 360 launch game I'm excited about is Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. The screen shots look amazing and I just love the idea of exploration that the game seems to offer.
08-24-05, 12:15 PM
#527
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
Posts: 6,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nintendo of Microsoft in Japan:
It appears that Nintendo forgot about the DC as well... 
The Xbox 360 faces an uphill struggle against its rivals in the Far East, according to Nintendo of America VP Perrin Kaplan, who claims that "very few people are aware of or anticipating Xbox 2 at the moment" in Japan.
Speaking in an interview with US website IGN, Kaplan discussed the prospects of Nintendo's next-generation console, Revolution, and its rivals from Microsoft and Sony in the Japanese market.
"Xbox has no recognition at all in Japan," she claimed, "and very few people are aware of or anticipating Xbox 2 at this point."
While Microsoft has inked deals with several high-profile Japanese developers to create Xbox 360 titles, Kaplan believes that those deals are less important than they might seem, since they don't bring major franchises to the table.
"Microsoft has had no success in the Japanese market and they were required to attract such developers in order to have a chance in the market," she said. "Further, those developers won't be making software for that system that are currently known and loved on other systems, such as Kirby."
By contrast, Kaplan expects Japan - the only market where the GameCube comfortably outperformed the Xbox in the last generation, although it also led in several European markets - to remain a successful market for Nintendo.
"[The Japanese market] continues to be a very successful and profitable market for Nintendo," she said, "and we anticipate this to be true for the indefinite future. What might make more sense is to say that it's changing. All companies in Japan are experiencing these changes. Portable play is one additional arena that remains vibrant."
Regarding Nintendo's largest competitor, Sony, Kaplan believes that respect is due to the firm, not only for getting to market first but also for the quality of the offering which it has created with the PS2.
"Launching early in the Japanese market has been the key to success for Sony's PlayStation 2," Kaplan told IGN. "Their early launch date and marketing push along with a solid library of games gave them momentum that they still enjoy today."
However, even though Nintendo won't be launching first with Revolution, Kaplan believes that the firm's offering will be extremely attractive.
"It is too early for Nintendo to discuss our strategy for Revolution," she said, "but I can tell you that we have much experience running a successful global video game company, and Nintendo will come to the dance extremely well dressed."
Speaking in an interview with US website IGN, Kaplan discussed the prospects of Nintendo's next-generation console, Revolution, and its rivals from Microsoft and Sony in the Japanese market.
"Xbox has no recognition at all in Japan," she claimed, "and very few people are aware of or anticipating Xbox 2 at this point."
While Microsoft has inked deals with several high-profile Japanese developers to create Xbox 360 titles, Kaplan believes that those deals are less important than they might seem, since they don't bring major franchises to the table.
"Microsoft has had no success in the Japanese market and they were required to attract such developers in order to have a chance in the market," she said. "Further, those developers won't be making software for that system that are currently known and loved on other systems, such as Kirby."
By contrast, Kaplan expects Japan - the only market where the GameCube comfortably outperformed the Xbox in the last generation, although it also led in several European markets - to remain a successful market for Nintendo.
"[The Japanese market] continues to be a very successful and profitable market for Nintendo," she said, "and we anticipate this to be true for the indefinite future. What might make more sense is to say that it's changing. All companies in Japan are experiencing these changes. Portable play is one additional arena that remains vibrant."
Regarding Nintendo's largest competitor, Sony, Kaplan believes that respect is due to the firm, not only for getting to market first but also for the quality of the offering which it has created with the PS2.
"Launching early in the Japanese market has been the key to success for Sony's PlayStation 2," Kaplan told IGN. "Their early launch date and marketing push along with a solid library of games gave them momentum that they still enjoy today."
However, even though Nintendo won't be launching first with Revolution, Kaplan believes that the firm's offering will be extremely attractive.
"It is too early for Nintendo to discuss our strategy for Revolution," she said, "but I can tell you that we have much experience running a successful global video game company, and Nintendo will come to the dance extremely well dressed."
08-24-05, 12:39 PM
#529
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
Posts: 6,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
What do you mean?
08-24-05, 12:43 PM
#530
DVD Talk Legend
Gamestop has their bundles up too. These include Oblivion. Woohoo. Looks like I'll be getting the silver pack.
http://www.gamestop.com/productmerch.asp?groupid=310
http://www.gamestop.com/productmerch.asp?groupid=310
08-24-05, 03:10 PM
#531
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Originally Posted by noonan4224
Gamestop has their bundles up too. These include Oblivion. Woohoo. Looks like I'll be getting the silver pack.
http://www.gamestop.com/productmerch.asp?groupid=310
http://www.gamestop.com/productmerch.asp?groupid=310
08-24-05, 05:15 PM
#534
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Originally Posted by Save Ferris
I havent found any pics of the power supply that goes with the 360. I remember rumors saying its almost as big as the unit itself. Have pics been released?
08-24-05, 08:35 PM
#535
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Export, PA
Posts: 5,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That Ultimate Bundle is just fucking crazy.
You'd think that after all the shit stirred up by the price of just the system EB and Gamestop would rethink their bundles and make them more like the PSP launch where you could pick the games. I really would love to see numbers after launch about the number of bundles each store sells.
You'd think that after all the shit stirred up by the price of just the system EB and Gamestop would rethink their bundles and make them more like the PSP launch where you could pick the games. I really would love to see numbers after launch about the number of bundles each store sells.
08-25-05, 08:10 AM
#536
Cool New Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Florida
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
GameRush is a Go
Just for those of you not wanting to get screwed with the bundles, I have called about 5 GameRush's and 4 of them are actually taking the pre-orders. The other one said it would be any day. The only catch is that you have to go to the store to do it. Just thought I would let you know. 100.00 down for the HD package (399.99). Not bad to keep from having to wait in the line or scramble to find one.
08-25-05, 09:14 AM
#540
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 4,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Was there news of Microsoft already producing the units for sale?
If they've begun making the consoles/accessories, I don't think there will be a problem getting one at launch. Add to this the $400 price that is discouraging people from buying one and the ridiculous "bundles" that are being offered and I don't see why there wouldn't be enough for everyone that wanted one.
Also, there are about 4 titles that I want from the launch line up, but none I would consider a title to sell consoles.
If they've begun making the consoles/accessories, I don't think there will be a problem getting one at launch. Add to this the $400 price that is discouraging people from buying one and the ridiculous "bundles" that are being offered and I don't see why there wouldn't be enough for everyone that wanted one.
Also, there are about 4 titles that I want from the launch line up, but none I would consider a title to sell consoles.
08-25-05, 09:50 AM
#541
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Originally Posted by Centurion
Also, there are about 4 titles that I want from the launch line up, but none I would consider a title to sell consoles.
08-25-05, 09:54 AM
#542
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Well, there are a few titles that REALLY interest me. Plus, I have credit, so it's not a big hit on my bank account. Although, Call of Duty 2 looked damn cool on one of the XBOX demo discs. I just made you feel like you were at war....pretty darn good.
I may even get Oblivion, and I'm not a BIG RPG fan....but it seems that good.
I may even get Oblivion, and I'm not a BIG RPG fan....but it seems that good.
08-25-05, 10:07 AM
#543
DVD Talk Legend
Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
I may even get Oblivion, and I'm not a BIG RPG fan....but it seems that good.
08-25-05, 10:57 AM
#544
Guest
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Glendale, next to L.A.
Posts: 18,484
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11070
Reports suggest Xbox 360 FFXI will require hard drive
Rob Fahey 10:21 25/08/2005
Has the exclusion of the hard drive from the Core System created a two tier Xbox 360?
A number of online reports have emerged suggesting that the Xbox 360 version of Square Enix' massively multiplayer title Final Fantasy XI will only play on versions of the console which are equipped with the hard drive.
While no confirmation or denial has been forthcoming from Square Enix itself, the reports are logical enough - in its PC and PS2 incarnations, FFXI uses the hard drive incredibly heavily to store character information and content updates.
Installation sizes on those systems are multiple gigabytes, and over the months and years of the game's operation, hundreds of megabytes of additional content, patches and expansions have been added to the game.
Therefore, it's logical that FFXI should require a hard drive to play - but it's potentially embarrassing for Microsoft, which faces the prospect of the first title it has ever secured for its platform from Square Enix not working on many Xbox 360 consoles.
The decision to make the hard drive optional has a number of consequences for the Xbox 360; many developers who have spoken to GamesIndustry.biz expressed doubt that the drive would be used in many third party games, since it will be seen as an optional peripheral.
However, the possibility that a "two tier" Xbox 360 has been created, where only those with hard drives will be able to play certain - primarily online - games, is arguably a more major concern. It remains to be seen how Microsoft plans to communicate the differences between the two versions of the system to consumers, and avoid confusion and disappointment among those expecting to be able to play MMOG titles on the Core System bundle.
Chris
Reports suggest Xbox 360 FFXI will require hard drive
Rob Fahey 10:21 25/08/2005
Has the exclusion of the hard drive from the Core System created a two tier Xbox 360?
A number of online reports have emerged suggesting that the Xbox 360 version of Square Enix' massively multiplayer title Final Fantasy XI will only play on versions of the console which are equipped with the hard drive.
While no confirmation or denial has been forthcoming from Square Enix itself, the reports are logical enough - in its PC and PS2 incarnations, FFXI uses the hard drive incredibly heavily to store character information and content updates.
Installation sizes on those systems are multiple gigabytes, and over the months and years of the game's operation, hundreds of megabytes of additional content, patches and expansions have been added to the game.
Therefore, it's logical that FFXI should require a hard drive to play - but it's potentially embarrassing for Microsoft, which faces the prospect of the first title it has ever secured for its platform from Square Enix not working on many Xbox 360 consoles.
The decision to make the hard drive optional has a number of consequences for the Xbox 360; many developers who have spoken to GamesIndustry.biz expressed doubt that the drive would be used in many third party games, since it will be seen as an optional peripheral.
However, the possibility that a "two tier" Xbox 360 has been created, where only those with hard drives will be able to play certain - primarily online - games, is arguably a more major concern. It remains to be seen how Microsoft plans to communicate the differences between the two versions of the system to consumers, and avoid confusion and disappointment among those expecting to be able to play MMOG titles on the Core System bundle.
Chris
08-25-05, 11:00 AM
#545
DVD Talk Legend
Well duh. But, like the PS2 you can simply buy the hard drive so it's not like you'd be permanently restricted from playing certain games if you start with the Core System. I don't know if I'd really call that a "two-tier" system.
08-25-05, 11:02 AM
#546
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 3,227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is an innocent question I promise I really don't remember, but when the original Xbox was released was Halo really that big or did it take a little while for it to become the phenomenon that it is?
I think I'm going to just try to preorder the HD system and pick up Perfect Dark but what do you guys think is going to be the big "Live" game for 360? Are any of the games on launch day going to be a major success or do you think we'll be waiting a few months for a really major game? Oh I also want the new "Elder Scrolls"......it looks fantastic. I for one am not pessimistic about this system at all I'm actually really excited to get the system no matter the cost, but hey I'm in my mid twenties with a good job and I'm not married and have no kids, so what the hell else do I have to spend my money on
I think I'm going to just try to preorder the HD system and pick up Perfect Dark but what do you guys think is going to be the big "Live" game for 360? Are any of the games on launch day going to be a major success or do you think we'll be waiting a few months for a really major game? Oh I also want the new "Elder Scrolls"......it looks fantastic. I for one am not pessimistic about this system at all I'm actually really excited to get the system no matter the cost, but hey I'm in my mid twenties with a good job and I'm not married and have no kids, so what the hell else do I have to spend my money on
08-25-05, 11:09 AM
#547
DVD Talk Limited Edition
As for BIG LIVE Xbox360 games:
I would assume:
Call of Duty2
PDZ
Ghost Recon 3
Project Gotham Racing 3
The Outfit (I think it's live...appears to be like Mercenaries)
I'm sure there are more....
I think HALO was a big release when it came out. I'm sure it took a little to get it going, but once it did...it just got bigger and bigger.
I would assume:
Call of Duty2
PDZ
Ghost Recon 3
Project Gotham Racing 3
The Outfit (I think it's live...appears to be like Mercenaries)
I'm sure there are more....
I think HALO was a big release when it came out. I'm sure it took a little to get it going, but once it did...it just got bigger and bigger.
08-25-05, 11:12 AM
#549
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 3,227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Well duh. But, like the PS2 you can simply buy the hard drive so it's not like you'd be permanently restricted from playing certain games if you start with the Core System. I don't know if I'd really call that a "two-tier" system.
08-25-05, 11:17 AM
#550
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 3,227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Halo was huge at Launch and really the only reason the X-box did as well as it did.
If it wasn't for having Halo at launch I doubt we'd be seeing the X-box 360.
If it wasn't for having Halo at launch I doubt we'd be seeing the X-box 360.
maybe we should start a poll or something to see what launch day titles people will be buying.
