The Xbox 360 Compendium
11-12-05, 12:21 PM
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Out of the 40 Xbox games I own, not even 10 are BC - but that'll improve, right?
They're gonna keep adding more games to the list, righ?
I'm holding out for the 360's first price-drop anyways, and I assume that they should have way more BC games by then.
I mostly want the Splinter Cell series to be BC.
They're gonna keep adding more games to the list, righ?
I'm holding out for the 360's first price-drop anyways, and I assume that they should have way more BC games by then.
I mostly want the Splinter Cell series to be BC.
11-12-05, 12:30 PM
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http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/666/666229p1.html
Xbox 360: Did You Say April?
Retailers report mass Xbox 360 shortages.
November 11, 2005 - The rumors, apparently, are true. According to retailers in San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Miami and Houston, there will be mass shortage of Xbox 360 units on the targeted launch date of November 22. IGN contacted dozens of stores around the country, including Gamestop, EB Games, Electronics Boutique, Target and Walmart. One short-tempered clerk at a Gamestop in New York estimated that Xbox 360 units will not be available for walk-in customers until April. That's right, April.
April is obviously the worst-case scenario, but every retailer we spoke with that accepted preorders estimated that walk-in customers will have to wait until January for their new system. And since none of those retailers are accepting any more preorders, there may be a lot of disappointed little gamers this Christmas.
Here's the breakdown, and keep in mind that most of the employees at the outlets were not allowed to divulge any hard numbers, although a few were kind enough to share. At an EB Games in San Francisco, a manager said that of the more than 200 preorders his store took, he will only be able to supply 20% of those customers. Do the math and that's a paltry 40 or so units at launch.
An employee at the Electronics Boutique in New York said they have 79 preorders and will receive only 30 units on the first shipment and he has no idea when the second shipment will come in. At a small EB Games in Los Angeles, of the 49 preorders, one employee expected 25 units at best, with walk-in customers out of luck until possibly February.
At a Gamestop in Chicago, an employee scoffed at the idea that even one half of the 100 preorders will be delivered before December. A Gamestop in Miami took about 100 preorders, was promised 50 units from Microsoft, and reports that it will be lucky to get 30 units on November 22. At an EB Games in Houston, a feisty employee refused to divulge any numbers whatsoever, but did say that walk-in customers should cross their fingers for January to land the first next-generation console.
For the most part, large retailers like Target and Walmart are not accepting preorders, so their units will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis. Some of those stores that are open 24 hours are preparing a "midnight madness" event for the 360. The Union City, Calif. Walmart will start a line sometime on November 21. As the clock chimes midnight, customers will be able to purchase one Xbox 360 system. The bad news? Walmart expects to have only 30 units in stock.
The Colma, Calif. Target store reported that of an expected 100 or so units, they will most likely receive 50 units, at best. That was pretty much par for the course for other stores as well.
Microsoft's Corporate Vice President J Allard said as much to IGN Xbox Editor in Chief Doug Perry in a very candid interview last month. A worldwide launch is very ambitious to say the least, and Allard filled us in.
"Honestly, we decided as a management team that we'd rather take the heat from all territories saying we wish we had more. And we'll have to say "sold out" in too many places," Allard said. "We'd rather take that heat, then take the heat from Europe saying, "Why do we have to wait a year?" We designed a worldwide product with worldwide partners, and with worldwide ambition, and the world deserves to see it all at the same time, and we're not going to have enough. That's the fact."
Now, let's talk about the rumors about the shortage rumors. It has been rumored, mostly by Internet conspiracy theorists, that Microsoft is purposely creating a shortage to make its 360 system appear more popular than it really is and to generate free press from the media. That seems a bit silly, of course, considering the enormous difficulty involved in a worldwide launch for a very popular system from a company making only its second console.
Microsoft was unable to comment before deadline. IGN will keep you posted as 360 availability news unfolds.
Retailers report mass Xbox 360 shortages.
November 11, 2005 - The rumors, apparently, are true. According to retailers in San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Miami and Houston, there will be mass shortage of Xbox 360 units on the targeted launch date of November 22. IGN contacted dozens of stores around the country, including Gamestop, EB Games, Electronics Boutique, Target and Walmart. One short-tempered clerk at a Gamestop in New York estimated that Xbox 360 units will not be available for walk-in customers until April. That's right, April.
April is obviously the worst-case scenario, but every retailer we spoke with that accepted preorders estimated that walk-in customers will have to wait until January for their new system. And since none of those retailers are accepting any more preorders, there may be a lot of disappointed little gamers this Christmas.
Here's the breakdown, and keep in mind that most of the employees at the outlets were not allowed to divulge any hard numbers, although a few were kind enough to share. At an EB Games in San Francisco, a manager said that of the more than 200 preorders his store took, he will only be able to supply 20% of those customers. Do the math and that's a paltry 40 or so units at launch.
An employee at the Electronics Boutique in New York said they have 79 preorders and will receive only 30 units on the first shipment and he has no idea when the second shipment will come in. At a small EB Games in Los Angeles, of the 49 preorders, one employee expected 25 units at best, with walk-in customers out of luck until possibly February.
At a Gamestop in Chicago, an employee scoffed at the idea that even one half of the 100 preorders will be delivered before December. A Gamestop in Miami took about 100 preorders, was promised 50 units from Microsoft, and reports that it will be lucky to get 30 units on November 22. At an EB Games in Houston, a feisty employee refused to divulge any numbers whatsoever, but did say that walk-in customers should cross their fingers for January to land the first next-generation console.
For the most part, large retailers like Target and Walmart are not accepting preorders, so their units will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis. Some of those stores that are open 24 hours are preparing a "midnight madness" event for the 360. The Union City, Calif. Walmart will start a line sometime on November 21. As the clock chimes midnight, customers will be able to purchase one Xbox 360 system. The bad news? Walmart expects to have only 30 units in stock.
The Colma, Calif. Target store reported that of an expected 100 or so units, they will most likely receive 50 units, at best. That was pretty much par for the course for other stores as well.
Microsoft's Corporate Vice President J Allard said as much to IGN Xbox Editor in Chief Doug Perry in a very candid interview last month. A worldwide launch is very ambitious to say the least, and Allard filled us in.
"Honestly, we decided as a management team that we'd rather take the heat from all territories saying we wish we had more. And we'll have to say "sold out" in too many places," Allard said. "We'd rather take that heat, then take the heat from Europe saying, "Why do we have to wait a year?" We designed a worldwide product with worldwide partners, and with worldwide ambition, and the world deserves to see it all at the same time, and we're not going to have enough. That's the fact."
Now, let's talk about the rumors about the shortage rumors. It has been rumored, mostly by Internet conspiracy theorists, that Microsoft is purposely creating a shortage to make its 360 system appear more popular than it really is and to generate free press from the media. That seems a bit silly, of course, considering the enormous difficulty involved in a worldwide launch for a very popular system from a company making only its second console.
Microsoft was unable to comment before deadline. IGN will keep you posted as 360 availability news unfolds.
11-12-05, 12:32 PM
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I pre-ordered from BB, but if the shortages are anywhere near what this story is boasting, I may still go look for one or more on launch & sell it on e-bay....
wait in line for a couple hundred bucks... no brainer. Maybe even cover the cost of my 360...
wait in line for a couple hundred bucks... no brainer. Maybe even cover the cost of my 360...
11-12-05, 12:54 PM
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If there's such crazy shortages, what was all that talk in the business papers about MS's goal of selling 3 million units by the end of this year? It looks like they won't even have half that many units available, much less sold.
11-12-05, 01:09 PM
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What makes it even tougher is these places are receiving, say, 30-40 systems - how many of those are the Core system? I don't want to stand in line at Best Buy, be told they have 60 units and then find out that 20 of them are the Core system and I'm 50th in line 
11-12-05, 03:14 PM
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11-12-05, 03:50 PM
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Since the other thread I posted this in got locked, I'm going to ask here. For those of you who are planning on waiting in line, just how early would you say to get there? I have no experience with waiting in line on launch day, so this will be my first time. So should I get there four hours before the store opens, or even earlier? I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Thanks.
11-12-05, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
Since the other thread I posted this in got locked, I'm going to ask here. For those of you who are planning on waiting in line, just how early would you say to get there? I have no experience with waiting in line on launch day, so this will be my first time. So should I get there four hours before the store opens, or even earlier? I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Thanks.
11-12-05, 07:27 PM
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Badass! How's this for exact numbers? Every Best Buy's store's allotment numbers for launch ripped from TeamXbox:
This is the list of core and premium systems being shipped to BestBuy stores nationwide...the list is categorized by store #...to find your bestbuy store number visit www.bestbuy.com and go to store locator.
Stores 4 - 58 (Total 2424)
http://tinypic.com/fmjsll.jpg
Stores 59 - 152 (Total 4386)
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmjvo8
Stores 153 - 204 (Total 3202)
http://tinypic.com/fmkhvk.jpg
Stores 205 - 255
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkjd3
Stores 256 -306
http://tinypic.com/fmkjo8.jpg
Stores 307 - 357
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkmew
Stores 358 - 409
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkmsk
Stores 410 - 461
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmknqo
Stores 462 - 514
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmko68
Stores 515 - 566
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkqc7
Stores 567 - 654
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkqxv
Stores 655 - 809
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmksud
Stores 810 - 863
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkthc
Stores 865 - 1017
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmku39
Stores 1022 - 1054
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkuhw
Pro = Premium Core = Core
Many bestbuy's have already received their allotments and are waiting in theft prevention...most are on route to their location (bestbuy store) so variances in shipping numbers maybe be + or - 5-8% but don't count on any dramatic changes
Stores 4 - 58 (Total 2424)
http://tinypic.com/fmjsll.jpg
Stores 59 - 152 (Total 4386)
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmjvo8
Stores 153 - 204 (Total 3202)
http://tinypic.com/fmkhvk.jpg
Stores 205 - 255
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkjd3
Stores 256 -306
http://tinypic.com/fmkjo8.jpg
Stores 307 - 357
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkmew
Stores 358 - 409
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkmsk
Stores 410 - 461
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmknqo
Stores 462 - 514
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmko68
Stores 515 - 566
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkqc7
Stores 567 - 654
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkqxv
Stores 655 - 809
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmksud
Stores 810 - 863
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkthc
Stores 865 - 1017
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmku39
Stores 1022 - 1054
http://www.tinypic.com/view/?pic=fmkuhw
Pro = Premium Core = Core
Many bestbuy's have already received their allotments and are waiting in theft prevention...most are on route to their location (bestbuy store) so variances in shipping numbers maybe be + or - 5-8% but don't count on any dramatic changes
11-12-05, 08:06 PM
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Cool BB info. I think it is best to avoid that place altogether. With all the info leaked to the web, every location is going to be a madhouse. Probably be best to pick an out of the way Wal-Mart, K-Mart or Target and try your luck there unless you intend to camp out all night.
11-12-05, 08:39 PM
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That's interesting about BB. Thanks for posting that! My store is only getting 44 premium kits it. That's not too many. It makes me wonder how many systems places like Circuit City are getting? Must be much less. The 22nd is going to be crazy.
11-12-05, 10:54 PM
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That's interesting from all the posts that say the BB stores are limited as to who will be hosting a midnight release my BB store is not listed. However, the BB associates in Manchester, NH (manager included) insist they are having a midnight event for this...I guess we'll see.
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11-12-05, 11:10 PM
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Ugh, as I feared, all of the BB's near me are getting around 43-46 premium systems. Even getting there at like 4am might not cut it. That's about my limit. I'm not about to stay out overnight in Michigan in late November
11-12-05, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Ugh, as I feared, all of the BB's near me are getting around 43-46 premium systems. Even getting there at like 4am might not cut it. That's about my limit. I'm not about to stay out overnight in Michigan in late November
11-12-05, 11:25 PM
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I have no idea how this launch is gonna go around my area. For the PS2 I got up at 3am and there were over 150 people at Best Buy. I ended up at Sears, was like 8th in line, but the manager was a moron, didn't hand out tickets or anything and it turned into a mini riot as he opened all the entrances at the same time (I ended up with nothing). For the XBox launch, I went at 6:30 am to my Target that was opening at 8 and was like 15th in line - got one no problem. I'd prefer a launch like that! 
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I'll only post it once: Sams and Costco (possibly BJs or Frys) are the WAY TO GO on this launch. Sams and Costco are getting them in bundles, no preorders for anyone, and you need a membership to get in. That cuts down on your competition bigtime. Costco is getting about 25 per store. That is my gift to the forum that has helped me out many times over the years.
11-13-05, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
I have no idea how this launch is gonna go around my area. For the PS2 I got up at 3am and there were over 150 people at Best Buy. I ended up at Sears, was like 8th in line, but the manager was a moron, didn't hand out tickets or anything and it turned into a mini riot as he opened all the entrances at the same time (I ended up with nothing). For the XBox launch, I went at 6:30 am to my Target that was opening at 8 and was like 15th in line - got one no problem. I'd prefer a launch like that!
Anyway, it was a mad rush to the electronics department. All I could do was sell the 4 units to the first 4 people in line at my register. There were some pissed people that didn't get one. One guy was screaming he was first in line and had been there since 5 A.M. Obsenities were flying!
Anyway, the store manager owned up to her mistake. The funny thing was I had warned her about the demand for these things the previous day.
11-13-05, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Apollo
MY EB.com Preorder has moved from the "waiting for product" stage to the "Open"(order is being prepared) stage.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me too!
11-13-05, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnglad
I'll only post it once: Sams and Costco (possibly BJs or Frys) are the WAY TO GO on this launch. Sams and Costco are getting them in bundles, no preorders for anyone, and you need a membership to get in. That cuts down on your competition bigtime. Costco is getting about 25 per store. That is my gift to the forum that has helped me out many times over the years.
Of course this is dependent on whether or not all Sam's receive 360s for the launch date. Currently her local Sam's haven't received any, well not yet anyway.
11-13-05, 12:14 PM
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Quick question on backwards compatability:
I just purchased Karaoke Party and Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire. Should I go ahead and play these now on my regular X-Box or should I wait and play them on the 360? They aren't on the list but I also don't want to have to worry about having to start over since you can't transfer saved games.
I heard that most new X-Box games will work on the 360 but I am not sure what they mean by "new". Will there be something on the box to tell us if a new game will automatically work on the 360?
I CANNOT wait until next week! My order at Walmart is "processing"! :-)
Sam
I just purchased Karaoke Party and Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire. Should I go ahead and play these now on my regular X-Box or should I wait and play them on the 360? They aren't on the list but I also don't want to have to worry about having to start over since you can't transfer saved games.
I heard that most new X-Box games will work on the 360 but I am not sure what they mean by "new". Will there be something on the box to tell us if a new game will automatically work on the 360?
I CANNOT wait until next week! My order at Walmart is "processing"! :-)
Sam
11-13-05, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flay
Anyway, it was a mad rush to the electronics department. All I could do was sell the 4 units to the first 4 people in line at my register. There were some pissed people that didn't get one. One guy was screaming he was first in line and had been there since 5 A.M. Obsenities were flying!
Anyway, back on subject - looking at this week's ads, it looks like Circuit City is making the games available this week, while Best Buy appears to be hoarding them for launch.
